He showed up at ER, SIX(6) times and docs weren’t suspicious and DID NOT contact child protective svcs? The kid should sue the docs and hospital as well as his parents (those psychos).
I think in that kind of area, Drs might have known what were going on….and turned a blind eye.
There may be an issue of some clinicians turning a blind eye due to the culture of non disclosure or religious acceptance of certain types of either indoctrination or “discipline” …
Nonetheless, repeatedly dealing in ER with significant physical injury and (what I would suspect to be) psychological trauma – failure to report to appropriate child protection agencies would be negligence and failure of a duty of care by the clinicians. Clinicians are duty bound to ensure the care of their patients holistically irrespective of their own personal values … It may be that, some or all, of the clinicians have reported their concerns and it was child protection services who failed in their duties. Certainly, there is culpability of the parents and some level of public protection agency in the failures in this horrific case.
I think of the Victoria Climbie and Baby P cases in the UK where (although not LGBT related), many agencies failed to report or subsequently investigate concerns ,,
… that arose. Indeed in the Climbie serious case investigation the only agency exonerated in their handling (due to repeated reports of concern) were the ambulance service. All other agencies failed.
Regardless of prejudice, every child matters. Gay children, non religious children, disabled children, impovershed children – all matter and all deserve protection from harm
i cant believe they didnt know what was going on. its an outrage that nothing was done!! my heart goes out to him.
He really needs to have his father prosecuted for abuse so the message gets through to him that what he did to Samuel is wrong.
Parents are not above the law.
More abuse in the name of god.
Religion is not the last word on morality, it is a network of abusers.
Religion is merely an excuse for a sicko,
Jesus said Love your neighbour.
He did not say as long as they are not gay.
I don’t doubt the sincerity of your belief, but it’s a long way from being an historical fact.
So you know the historical facts, eh? And from what source would you be getting those facts? (I shouldn’t feed the troll, I shouldn’t . . .
Ah, shucks – just this once.
The Bible is not historical fact.
Evidence for the existence of jesus is not terribly strong.
“More abuse in the name of god.”
It does appear that way!!!
It’s not religion to blame… it’s the people that abuse religion that are.
I have to disagree Vermy. This is the same argument moderate Muslims use against radical muslim behaviour. Any religion IS what people make it. The continuance of any ancient beliefs and behaviours occur because people continue them, (with whatever modifications are considered acceptable along the way). This is why different cultures and countries consider themselves to be ‘better’ Muslims, Christians etc. Religion IS to blame,because the people ARE the religion and while people continue to follow rules and cultural ‘norms’ created hundreds of years ago to control populations, irrespective of so called ‘modernisation’ these abuses of humanity will continue.
Problem with the US is its so vast there are all sorts of nutjobs getting away with murder- and a lot more in administration turning a blind eye to it. Hope he does press charges, its the only way things will change. Sadly i suspect it will probably be official republican policy to torture gay teens straight at the rate they are sliding into insanity.
He won’t prosecute his father – he wants a happy family.
Personally, if my father tried any of that, it would have been the last thing he ever did.
I will never understand why people like Brinton cling so desperately to family that hates them for being who they are. My mother was a “good” Christian who beat me frequently from the age of 5 until my mid-teens, once so severely that I had to be taken to the hospital. The rest of my family (immediate and extended) stood by and ignored it. I left home as soon as I could and never went back. I created my own “family” from good caring friends.
Sadly we hear too many stories like that. But happily we find the love we need and cherish in our chosen families.
So happy to hear you say that. Chosen families can be so nuturing and good for you, unlike, sometimes, unfortunately, genetic families.
There are problems in both genetic and chosen families, but I can not understand why a parent would damage their child in such an horrific manner. I can (just about) begin to understand rejecting a child if you could not accept something they had done eg murder – but not on grounds of sexuality, choice of partner, etc etc. I can begin to appreciate that a child would cling to a desperation for a good family life despite having severely suffered at the hands of their parents, but nonetheless they need nurturing in real human support and care.
It’s biological. It is natural for a child to want and pursue a bond with their parents. Until he revealed he was gay, that bond was there and it is natural for him to desire to have it again.
It will take a whole lot to help him sever that tie but as soon as he learns about “chosen” family and creates bonds with them, he will be able to do so. He will learn that he doesn’t need his family to accept him and he doesn’t need to accept them.
Agreed! I would forget about them.. they cannot accept me.. they abused me.. I would leave and never look back….Im sorry…thats the sad sad truth of it…learn to make your own family ..making new friends who actually care about you..find who the poeple are who REALLY care about you.. they are out there…let it go…
Though I can’t comment on situations in America, I firstly want to applaud Sam for having the guts to tell this story and for being the better person by not trying to cut his family off because of their actions. Deplorable as they may be, how many people, steeped in a particular belief religious or otherwise have not or would not try to do what they believed to be the best thing for their child?
Religeon is NOT the problem, it is merely the few who misinterpret it.
ALL parents know though that violence is NEVER the best for your child. This goes beyond what these people believe. This is a serious case of child abuse that needs to be reported !
It is serious and I would safely guess it has been reported.
I agree and hope that all parents know that violence is never the answer but I also know that in the heat of the moment anything can happen.
Imagine you were your parents when you came out and put yourself in their shoes. Most are fine and happy but there are always the few like Sam’s parents that can’t take it.
Time heals all wounds and you can’t predict the future.
If “in the heat of the moment”, happens, it happens onely once. Not again and again and again and…… His father is a sadist, who has found an argument to torture.
“Deplorable as it may be, how many people, steeped in a particular belief, religious or otherwise, have not or would not try to do what they believed to be the best thing for their child?”
I hope that the MAJORITY of parents would absolutely NOT resort to physical abuse as a means of illustrating to their child what they ‘believe to be the best thing’ for him or her. And I hope that the minority of parents who do believe that this method of ‘parenting’ is acceptable, are prosecuted.
Prosecution, in my opinion, wouldn’t change peoples attitudes the way we think. It could serve to enforce and entrench there beliefs.
I deplore violence to children but I know it happens and I think there are better ways to handle it, through counsiling and perhaps time spent apart. Worked for me.
@Stephen. Prosecution is not OK ? What message would you bring to this father to let him realise that the community “doesn’t like” the harm he has done to his own son ? No message ?
Saying prosecution is not OK is tacitly accepting the validity of violence on a child, it is saying society is powerless to support children being abused, it is saying “not my problem” … that is totally wrong and a devastating message to send to a child (or adult who was abused as a child).
We need to strongly support children and ensure that those who do abuse children are held to account. We also need to take appropriate action to protect children.
Religion is never an excuse. Even if (regardless of the issue precipitating it) a parent (or other adult) loses control once, this is not acceptable but may be reason to seek alternatives to prosecution – not for repeat offenders.
Religion is so often the excuse.
That a parent would treat their own flesh and blood this way is the basest, vilest, most animalistic (strike that last one — animals would not behave in such a contemptible way). The miracle is he got out alive and with his humanity. My advice, forget the future contact, they have blown every chance they might have deserved. Get on with your own life and impart that love you still obviously have for someone who will respond in kind.
The time has come for more exposure in the USA as to the amount of child abuse by Parents who have GLBT & Other Children.
“End Human Bankruptcy”an idea whose time has come.
His parents need to be in jail.
your right – should be in gaol
What goes through the minds of these thugs [and let's be honest, that is what they are] who subject their children, their babies, to this kind of treatment.
It just blows my mind that anybody would do that to their own flesh and blood.
I just can’t understand it.
His father is a sadist and a sociopath. Religion and parenthood are just his excuse and his playground. Charges should be filed — I don’t think the statute of limitations would have run out.
I’m sorry? He wants to give him parents a chance to accept him? Like he’s done something wrong?
That’s a cse os Stockholm syndrome if ever I’ve heard one.
The abuse was barbaric and calculated. It used primitive psychological techniques to associate pain with sexuality – not too dissimilar to Pavlov’s dogs.
That’s just sent shivers down my spine.
Is there ever a situation that would cause you to disown your parents?
In my opinion, yes. My father was an abuser – no specific focus like sexuality, he just liked to abuse. I haven’t had anything to do with him since I was 16 (now 50). I just wait until the day he dies so I can visit the viewing, and pound a stake through his heart to make sure he’s dead.
RJP, that is very sad. God bless you.
Don;t be so patronising, Who are you to give ‘blessings’ to anyone? RJP’s feelings are extreme but understandable, My family support me. I am one of the lucky ones. My sympathy to those who are not so lucky.
You speak of the bond between parent and child as sacred, and yet these monsters aren’t enough to show you how little that can mean? He should walk away and never look back. Vile people.
In all fairness I don’t have much to do with my father. My brothers put me through a lot of mental, emotional and physical torture (they’re both older than me). As a result yes – I haven’t spoken to one in years and the other is estranged.
I certainly don’t regret cutting them out of my life.
My mother died in 2008 and with her my ties to my family…a conscious and clear-cut choice.
I understand your point but NO child whould ever have to go through the hell that I had to, certainly not what this kid had to either.
I think the point is being missed – his father and mother are evil. There is no other word for such horrid actions. It’s not deplorable – it’s fundamentally and utterly evil.
I think you are ascribing the wrong motives to the victim. He’s wants their acceptance, but on his own terms as an out, proud gay man. He wants them to see their torture was pointless and his life is just fine despite not being straight, and he wants contact with his siblings– especially his younger brother– so he can be a force for sanity and tolerance in their lives.
Sick, evil, disgusting excuses for parents. And I especially detest people who use religion as an excuse for their extreme intolerance and hatred. If there was any justice in this world, then the father would receive twice the physical and emotional abuse he inflicted upon his son, his own flesh and blood whom he supposed to PROTECT, not attack and scar for life! Evil people. They don’t deserve children.
Well if there is a hell, that where he’ll get his just deserts.
Yes and I felt very very sad for this young man. To go through all of that and STILL love his parents…
Pity that his mentally ill parents could not show the same unconditional love…
So sad to hear that this sort of thing still happens today… so much for education and enlightenment.
This Mother and Father should be arrested and charged with child brutality, and spend some time in jail for their misdoings against their kid.
Unfortunately, this abuse still goes on, and somehow needs to be stopped, before more young people contemplate suicide. It is not wrong to be Gay.
completely agree with you on that one. Glad to see another couple with a Pete and a Mike in it :D
Such a sad and despicable example of abuse! Unfortunately some people can relate to his experience and others more fortunate to have the unconditional love of their parents can’t even begin to imagine how much misery and pain his parents cause him.
Samuel appears to be a wonderful young man who clearly seems to be a changed person in his new environment. It speaks volumes that he is able to speak of his experiences without anger and hatred.
A wonderful example of “It gets better!” May his friends be his adopted family in life and give him the unconditional love he deserves!
Hopefully there will be a day of judgement for his parents!
Samuel, I am so sorry about all that you had to endure just to be yourself. I am also so happy that you are alive, are being yourself, and came out to help others. I love you for being you! Be Proud & Be Strong!
Beautiful post Virginia!
failing religion, failing families, failing politics and somehow all this gets protected
It’s always the godly who do this — you never hear of aethiest parents beating their children for being gay.
I’ve heard of it, and encountered homophobic atheists. Bigotry can hide behind pseudo-science the same way it does behind pseudo-religion.
People invariably mean Christianity when they say religion. Most of the Pagans, Buddhists and Hindus of my acquaintance have no hostility towards gay people. It’s only certain religions that promote hatred.
The godly love unconditionally. Bigots hide behind their beliefs.
The father sounds mentally ill, and it is about time he started taking responsibiity for this, rather than using the bible and Jesus as an excuse for child abuse.
The dad probally supressed his feelings and is a bit paranoid
The awful thing is that probably his parents were seen as nice respectable religious folks in the neighbourhood and no suspicions were raised and the poor boy suffered in silence.
The ‘family’ is still too sacred in many cultures and much more nosiness about possible abuse is needed. These parents should be on trial for what they have done.
What a wonderful advertisement for Southern Baptist Christianity … Father Brinton deserves to be arrested, charged, tried, convicted and locked away for decades!!!!!
I am an American. Too much off the religion in my country is distorded and warped. This is what bigotry brings to the home. Not all terrorist are members of Islam.
People like that should be banned from having children. This is the sickest thing ever, to do that to one’s OWN CHILD. I feel deeply sorry for that guy. I hope he can recover not just from the physical pain, but from all that psychological damage he must have gone through.
I know he’s probably telling the truth. But at the same time, when I watched the video, I thought ‘I don’t believe half of what you are saying’. I think he’s an attention seeking queen who wants some electrosex. If he was that camp at home, how could his parents not know he was gay.
Its comments like that which undermine all the good work that is done in child protection
The hate-mongering Southern Baptists have been going to African nations as missionaries preaching death to gays. There can be no doubt that this kid’s missionary father is also a member of the Klan. That’s the type of KKKristians we have in the USA.
Another example of how wrong it is to assume because parents are man and woman that they are anymore capable of raising children.
I keep being hold by superstitious (religious) people that God is Love and faith gives you the peace you need to get through life – What utter Bollox –
It just gives you permission to Abuse and to Hate and to discriminate -
OUTLAW ALL FORMS OF ORGANISED SUPERSTITION!
Who is the true ‘Christian’ here? Obviously, the son who is not seeking revenge or retribution against his parents. Though, frankly, I think he should.
1st this lovely & brave man needs to sue the hospital for not alerting child protection. 2ndly have his father arrested for abuse. 3rdly, so many decent, loving couples who want children but can’t have them – Samuel needs to ditch those evil criminals who ruined his life for a while, and build a new supportive family with parents who will love him for who he is.
Please give us your fathers address
He believes in a eye for an eye
I am from the U.S. and I will email this story to every…..etc.etc. until his father is punished.
What a sick f—k
I’m sorry but i cannot watch the video reading all that was enough to turn my stomach and it’s the reason why i hate religion and those that claim it’s name. I feel bad for him and i hope he finds happiness. But he should not be willing to give them another chance. If anything he should be getting his so called father done on charges. His parents are sick.
Yes John, yes I am a happy gay Christian.
I understand you,
I am not taking a shot at you i am taking a shot at the people who use religion as a weapon to hurt others. I’m sorry if it sounded like i was attacking you when i was not.
What a hero Samuel is. To be so matter-of-fact about the extent of the abuse leveled at him and caused by his own parents! But poor him if he thinks he should still have a relationship with them. Only behind bars, son! Bunch of sicko parents, absolutely.
Is this considered normal parental behaviour in the States? I just hope that Samuel flips “mom and dad” the big, fat finger when they are put down. I mean, where are the laws to protect gay children from parental abuse like this?
Why do Americans criticise foreign countries for human rights abuses when religious wingnuts on their own turf can subject abuse like this to THEIR OWN child just because he’s gay? C’mon America, wake up to your responsibilities to protect every child and stop encouraging morally corrupt religious fanaticism.
What was done to Samuel was outrageous, illegal, immoral, unforgivable. What Samuel should do is file suit against his parents for every dime they have, and file a criminal complaint against them and seek their arrest and trial. His parents must be made to answer in a court of law for this unmitigated evil. What is most shocking is that his mother would know this was happening to her child, and approve of it! I admire the courage it took for Samuel to talk openly about this horror. He is a brave young man.
Report the father and Christians to the police for child abuse. They have lost their minds and this is proof that Christians are terrorist who terrorize even their own children as the Catholic priest have not done enough to rape and abuse the children, when will these Christians be stopped for the crimes they commit on the children and others?
The problem is when a child abuse ring gets bigger than the regulator and the governments who are meant to keep it in check then it pretty much has a free run at it and can do what it likes. The only way that there will be no abuse in religion is if there was no religion itself which is a situation that is too good to come to fruition.
See the video, Christian father shocks and beats his gay son so bad he has to go to hospital and then his family disowns the gay son, this is what Christians are really like, insane, psychotic, criminals to treat a human this way let alone your own flesh and blood, 2,000 years of the Christian religion has proved that it does not work and now it is plane to see that Christians have gone to the dark side to destroy the lives if children around the world. They use to say that people who did what the Christians did was the works of the Devil or Satan, Christians have become the very evil they have tried to destroy, Christians are the evil Satan and Devil and they need to be arrested and put in prison for their crimes against children and any one who have been harmed in any way by their insane criminal actions. Start the Stop the Christians protest to stop them before they destroy another child or anybody else.
I’m a gay mainstream Christian and I have to take issue with your assessment of my faith. This poor man’s parents are not Christians as we in the mainstream of the faith understand that term – they are very superstitious biblical literalists who have arisen out of the deliberate perversion of Christianity by so called ‘charismatic’ American preachers who, in reality, are only in it for the money and the power their deliberate misunderstanding of Christianity gives them over other people. Time and time again throughout the world we encounter this type of so-called Christian who does nothing but give the Faith a bad name. We inveigh against their sort of teachings all the time but the media just ignores us and carries on reporting on these fundamentalists as if they are all of Christianity – and representative of all of Christianity as well. I don’t know what we have to do to get through to you and the press but this man’s parents were NOT Christians, no matter how often or loudly they claimed to be. They were superstitious book worshippers of the very worst sort and completely incapable of applying their God given intelligences to what they read and reasoning their way to a more modern Faith as the vast bulk of Christians have done already.
Maybe. But all christian bibles describes homosexual acts as abomination (Lev. 18:22); a detestable act that requires the death penalty (Lev. 20:13); that classes gay people with thieves and drunkards and tells them they can never go to heaven (1 Cor. 6:9-10); and describes their desires as degrading, indecent, depraved, improper and requiring due penalty (Rom. 1:26-28).
Difficult to sustain the false christian argument with that kind of obscenity in your holy book, and easy to see where people like Samuel’s parents learn how to behave.
The fact that no christians are prepared to print a bible without this filth suggests that the preserving its contents is more important to them than treating all human beings with respect and dignity.
Many modern Christians (as the word would imply) take their belief system from primarily or even only the New Testiment – from Christ on – hence the name Christians. These “modern” Christians are much more likely to reject the extreme hatred and homophobia of the fundamentalist christians with their literalist interpretation of the Bible. Those types of Christians can and often times are our allies, so let’s not paint with too broad a brush.
Corinthians and romans are in the new testament.
The point still stands – it’s all very well to say a given christian rejects hatred and homophobia – but difficult to sustain if their bible contains hatred and homophobia, like the examples above.
They cannot have it both ways. They cannot say they reject extreme hatred and homophobia and have on their shelves and in their churches a bible with such passages.
The Bible over the centuries has been altered and the version which we use in the UK is the King James version dating from the reign of James I of England (James VI of Scotland) in the early 17th century. Who knows who could have shoved verses admonishing gays into it then.
As for the Koran which Muslims proudly claim to be unaltered, Mohammed never wrote down what was revealed to him a God in that cave. He was illiterate so whoever wrote it down for him could have made a few modifications.
What ?! You’re saying that the nasty bits of the bible were inserted by nasty non-christians. Of course how stupid of me.
Tell me, as a true christian, does your bible have the nasty bits in it or have you a special one with out them ?
Mainstream Christians like me believe that the Bible is NOT the literal, dictated to a man, absolutely syllable-by-syllable-accurate Word of God but is much more likely to be words which the writer believed were inspired by God but that that inspiration, if it existed in any given case, has been filtered through the prejudiced and fallible mind of a man/woman.
Therefore, statements of hatred that conflict directly with modern sound knowledge and Christ’s message of universal love must be discounted as merely the prejudices and fallibilities of the writer and should NOT, under any circumstances, be taken as some message from God to persecute and/or hate. The mistake that this young man’s parents made was to read the Bible as if it were literally the dictated Word of God and their doing so proves, irrefutably, that they are not Christians for they ignored Christ’s message.
You still use the same bible ! If it has hate in it, why not print a copy without those obscene passages ?
You cannot have it both ways. Your message of universal love is nugatory if your bible – the basis of your religion – has messages like those in leviticus.
May I suggest that people like you use to “God-given” intelligence to reason that faith in the resurrection of a long dead Palestinian weirdo is pointless drivel and come out into the real, rational world. I am fed up with the minority of Christians who do not believe (based on the rantings of their holy book of fairy tales) that gay sex is sinful. The truth is that that minority are consorting with the enemy and just giving the enemy more strength. A gay Christian, bluntly, should be ashamed of themself.
I take it you’re a troll. In any case, it is you who should be ashamed of yourself to claim you are a Christian – a follower of the teachings of Jesus. Shame on you, hatemonger.
You are right about Biblical literalism – it is a historically recent development in Protestantism and essentially a paranoid response to Darwinism and the rising influence of science.
But it won’t do to insist that you represent ‘real’ Christianity and they don’t, for the simple reason that the faith has always been infinitely divergent and conflicted. Nobody can claim copyright over what ‘Christianity’ is. I think the only honest position you can take is that you subscribe to a particular interpretation of what it is. Personally, I would invite you to consider that it would be better not to subscribe to unprovable supernatural beliefs of any kind.
There seems to be organised support for any anti gay story in some papers. Whatever the anti gay sentiment expressed is it gets green arrowed and pro gay red arrowed. These weird parents got some support in the Daily Mail. I suspect the religious nut jobs contact each other when a story appears and then flood it with anti gay comments?
I have nothing to say except PRAY
That’ll do you as much good as a band aid on a bullet wound….
Pray . . . for what exaclty?
I think right now that is the thing we need
“We”? Are we all now relegated to the domain of superstitious fear and ignorance, just to keep you company?
Sorry replied to the wrong person. That other message was for the saying we need to pray. I should really pay attention to what i’m doing. Again sorry JohnK
ummm tasty :)
First off I think gay therapy is despicable. However do we have any experts on body language such as police, army or therapists? The first part of the video when talking about the abuse his eye hand and head movement indicates fabrication. The second part when he talks of leaving home shows truth and his vocal pattern becomes. Mire reasoned and rationale also when he then refers to his parents throwing him out and ex communication. Until he starts talking about guns and killing and his body language goes wild again. Now it could be that his parents have tried to brainwash him with the bible however the evidence indicates the rest has either been embellished or fabricated. Could Pink News do more research on this perhaps?
First of all, what makes you an expert and able to interpret what is fabrication and what isn’t? I don’t see your “evidence” frankly. Is initial body language change from the beginning to later in the interview could easily just be a recency effect due to being nervous at the start of the interview. I think you’re just blowing smoke!
I do agree that claims like this absolutely must be substantiated. If true, numerous crimes against a minor have unquestionably been committed and this is handled by the state, irrespective of the desire or otherwise of the victim to prosecute, as is the case with criminal matters.
If false, then the fabrication should be exposed by us, not by the hetero-normative majority. We must always internally monitor all stories for veracity. Lies do us more harm than good, and undermine the credibility of stories that are actually true. Why fabricate something when the truth is already horrific enough as it is?
One gay person does not speak or act for all of us. You have an inferiority complex
He may be lying but I’ve been through something not as extreme or physical but it is still painful today. So there is some truth in what he says it may not be his truth but violence with that motive happens all over the world every day and religion is the excuse used to justify it
Strange, but I don’t find a word about Samuel Brinton in any other gay news sites.
Why did you delete my comment pink news? :S It was completely respectful and raised a number of good points, as well as showing sympathy towards the victim. Is there something I’m not getting?
could be a glitch… happens to me too… maybe try refreshing the page.. your comment will resurface.
This story broke October 20, 2010… that’s a year ago…
Poor kid. What on earth made his tell his Dad? Probablly the myth that every gay person must come out to their family. keep you mouth shut until you’re 100% sure or are independent. I hate these gay men who think you’re not proud to be gay unless you tell everyone
You are a disgrace! There is nothing wrong with letting friends and family know that you are gay. I am proud of who i am.
Compulsive liar maybe?
Homophobic parents, maybe?
This boy needs to come to the realization that his parents are seriously evil people. It is terribly sad but “giving them the chance” is simply not going to work. The boy needs to recognize the fact that his family of birth is no longer a part of his life. They are toxic in the extreme. He will find, as many gay people do, that he can form his own family – his gay family – of people who will love and support him. I have seen this process many times. My own family of birth was very loving but they passed away a long time ago. My gay family formed naturally over the years and is the focus of my life. Some of its members are young and some are old – some very old – but we see ourselves as a real family – we help and support each other. These are the people at my table for Christmas Dinner and such occasions. These are the people one calls when trouble or joy happen.This boy can have such a family too and it will be far more rewarding than continuing to try to try to make his parents love
Yes the gay scene is like the Waltons
I so want to give this guy a hug and tell him it doesn’t have to be like that. He should come spend a few weeks with my parents. (who are in the 80s and yes, are also religious) He’d soon realize what loving people should be like and kick those he has to the curb.
Why are there so many Christians that act so un-christian? It’s like they don’t even understand their own religion.
Sometimes I question whether there is a difference between terrorists, criminals and christians.
Note my posting about the Old Testament which is set in the time before Jesus Christ. The stories of Sodom and Gomarah and Leviticus all happen long before God sent Jesus to Earth to ‘modify’ the religion. The word ‘Christian’ comes from ‘Christ’ and according to Christianity anybody who follows pre Christ religion is a pagan, therefore the word we should be using to describe these religious zealots and bigots is not ‘Christian’ but ‘Pagan’.
Nonsense. Maybe you should read the bible before you start pontificating on it.
Corinthians (1 Cor. 6:9-10) classes gay people with thieves and drunkards and tells them they can never go to heaven. Romans (Rom. 1:26-28) describes the desires of gay people as degrading, indecent, depraved, improper and requiring due penalty.
Corinthians and Romans are both in the new testament.
Oh, look, another bible quoter. How novel.
And how utterly irrelevant – quoting the bible as some kind of “fact” is the recourse of the stupid.
@Will — I agree; my aim was to demonstrate the absurdity of so doing.
“Gay Daily Mail Reader” was making the claim that all homophobic stories are in the old testament and I was quoting homophobia in the new testament.
That wasn’t Jesus, it was way later, just Paul writing some personal letters and grumbling about recreational sex, nothing to do with gay people having gay relationships. The Archbishop of Canterbury says that “scriptural prohibitions were addressed to heterosexuals looking for sexual variety. He wrote: “I concluded that an active sexual relationship between two people of the same sex might therefore reflect the love of God in a way comparable to marriage, if and only if it had about it the same character of absolute covenanted faithfulness.” Dr Williams described his view as his “definitive conclusion” reached after 20 years of study and prayer.”
These people are not Christian. They merely hide behind the name to lend legitimacy to their hate. Yes vertMB, they are criminal terrorists.
This kind of abuse is a criminal offence and he should prosecute his father. I do not know how these religious bigots have the audacity to call themselves Christians as they live by the Old Testament which preceeds Christ and his messages of love and forgiveness.
But new testament Christianity also ushered in the death penalty for usury (lending money for interest). I’m not clear how usury ceased to be a sin. Since the world economy is now totally based on usury, do you think that the recent international collapses resulting from the prime mortgage scandals are god’s judgement ? This seems more likely than tornados happening because of gay love.
Like the messages of love and forgiveness in Corinthians and Romans, both in the new testament:
This is a perfect exemple of a lack of knowledge and brains. Both go together most of the time. Religious fanatism based on whatever sacred book, be it the Bible, gives this kind of results anytime. It is no longer teaching but persecution in the name of “God” in this instance. The first pilgrims came here to practice their religion without that persecution which in turn is sometimes practiced here in the US. The Sacred books are not for accusing or persecuting others. They are nothing but a mirror for oneself to correct one’s behavior when needed and not to accuse others of the sins everybody comits at will. One only sees the other’s sins and not their own. No one needs a church to communicate with God to be a “good” christian. God is also in other places besides any church and their “servants”. Countless crimes have been commited in the name of God, here is one more….
Oh please the first piklgrims were liars and theives who persecuted the native americans. Hypocrites
I thought we threw them out because they kept trying to ban Christmas and theatre. Now they want to come back and run our schools.
The greatest betrayal a parent can do for their child – at least Judas was not family when he betrayed Christ. If the father ever gets to ‘heaven’s door’, hopeful he will be sent to the other place to burn in hell for eternity. The trouble with religions is that they indoctrinate the weak minded and those that cannot think for themselves. In some ways I just feel pity for them, but mostly it’s just disgust at the way they treat others.
Poor lad. He seems to be handling it well though. Sounds like that film, latter days.
My daughter would love to have a big brother.
What his parents did is tantamount to torture. Which is illegal. He should do the best thing and move on and just totally forget about them. Absolutely disgusting his parents did that to their child.
These wicked men posing as pastors has too have survelieance in their hetersexual ministries because of all of the sex crimes against children and women and instigated hate and violence attacks on others , these wicked people just use a builiding and label it a church, but its a church of satan like the one bad pastors wife told the news channel before she devorced him in his mega tv church, she was beatten by him for 26 years and other violence was taken place in the false ministriy inlcuding sex occults and abuses in it. She told the media its partially the adults fault for jouing their ministsries and finding out they are bad and staying in them instead of removing themselves and protecting themselves an their chidren . she said she should have came forward sooner even before her divorce about all the evil that went on in the mega churches an what they network an do to others, an families, more arrests of the monsters has to take place, the church should be monitoring the pastors
Cut it out Jock!
David cameron is doing positve things down in london, but him and lynne featherstone and other lgbt human rights orgs -or going to have to put in place gang deterents, and programs and delegations and impliment proper lgbt police patrols around lgbt clubs and where they know these violence out breaks ocur then this action along with his stand against racism and bigotry and for equal rights will be more effective and positive, you must take actions after you voice your actions intended , or nothing gets done, action is needed and required, and more arrestes of hate religions, and klans groups, to let them you know you want tolererate the assaults of families, disturbing the harmony and peace in communities, hate groups are the cause of all the problems and disturbances, and innicent childrens lives bullied an suiceds, every parent that is decent should be on the door step of the parliment demanding actions against hate viiolence , creeping thru their states , an countries, and cities
As an American, I have often wondered if you folks have to deal with the sick pseudo Christian wackos we do. There are two things this man must do.
1. Stay as far away from his biological family as possible.
2. Have a long and incredibly happy, healthy and wealthy life. (Remember not all wealth is counted in money.)
by giving them the chance and still wanting contact with his parents, he is showing them more compassion and acting more in a “christian” way, then they , his parents, ever have or will. And when its comes to all of their judgments, I wonder you will be let in to this so called heaven, when the time comes. . I know whoed I choose! Good luck to him.
This is the worst I’ve heard and this is just sickening!! Another point against religion and how the people react to different and unexpected things! Seriously!! for people who believe in god you sure act more like DEMONS!