daily mail going to go ballastic! Excellent news, but im sure they will still list reasons why it means end of world is nigh. Given the increasing amout of MBA’s with a couple and a third co-parent though even more flexibility is needed really.
I think this is a great step forward. If I am understanding it correctly, then I am pleasantly surprised that they are being forward thinking and making this change. Proves that one segment of the Home Office can be aware and respond to diversity!
I do wonder if it would have been easier just to change the title of the parent boxes to parent 1 and 2 rather than add so that there are now 4 (or more) boxes. There could have been a tick box for identifying as mother, father or other
This is good news, and according to the DM there are only 1.5 % of LGBT in this country, nothing could be more farcical coming from that paper, and people believe in their assumptions!
Lies, damned lies and statistics. I could take a clipboard, do a survey and prove the 90% of the population is LGBT – twenty minutes standing on Canal Street should do. Since there has never been a census question, and if there was they couldn’t make it mandatory, we will never know true numbers. And by the time it is safe and reasonable enough to find out, the country will have grown up (and the Daily Heil readers will all have died of old age) and it won’t matter any more.
As I said on another thread recently, the Daily Telegraph recently reported 6% of the UK population as being LGBT based on authoritative research. Strangely, this is another right wing newspaper but the Torygraph appears to be waking up to being honest and fair in its approach to LGBT people, whereas the Mail seems determined to be one of the last bastions for bigotry in the media.
I still think the Telegraph figures are marginally low but certainly more realistic than the Mail!
This is, of course, great news!
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However, I feel its taken a bit too long in coming since same sex parents could be registered on the child’s birth certificate from April 1st 2010. these 2 changes should have come hadn in hand…. not 18 months later!
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But… at least its positive steps!
In June I had to list myself as “mother” to my son, even though I’m male. I dreaded the problems which I thought would be caused but no issues. They obviously have dealt with this quite often before.
The Daily Mail gets away with it because its readership is bigot based, they thrive on it. Sooner or later the fantasy will flatten and hopefully the DM will become extinct along with its management.
“Currently, transgender people can obtain passports in their new gender. But intersex people – those born with chromosomal or genital ambiguity – must pick whether they are male or female.”
No. Intersex people cannot pick anything, they’re deemed to be the sex assigned at birth.
They (or anyone else) can get it changed – if they can get the signatures of two doctors present at the birth to testify that their was a typo on the birth certificate, that’s all.
Impossible for anyone born at home, or with only a midwife or one doctor present. Effectively impossible for anyone over 30.
Wow, their story is mischievously inaccurate, making it sound like no one can put down mother or father anymore and thus playing the victim card. Maybe some one with an account can point out that it’s an additional option, and has more to do with good old fashioned British courtesy than anything else.
Can the inaccuracy be reported? given the following it can only be deliberate: “A spokesman for the Identity and Passport Service told the Daily Mail: “IPS is planning to amend the application form and associated guidance to deal with same-sex parents applying for a passport on behalf of a child.
“Currently, the application form provides the relevant boxes of ‘mother’ and ‘father’ to be completed. The new form to be introduced by December 2011 will in addition provide for ‘parent 1′ and ‘parent 2′.”
The Telegraph article posted by Pavlos appears to be a deliberate smear against Stonewall, misreporting the facts in a way that will generate foaming homophobia, as it has done in the comments.
Stonewall and/or the Passport office should take them to the Press Complaints board.
i am not a uk resident so this is not a party political thing – but as an outside observer – for all of the raps Labour had to take – they did a lot for LGBT people – i just hope the current government don’t allow slippage.
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This is a positive step esp to recognise same sex parents.
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Excellent.
Just so you know. In ‘The Mail’ it said Stonewall lobbied the government to make this change.
Yes and have you seen the comments. Says it all when clearly Daily Mail readers lack the ability to actually read.
I’m stunned that in 2011 the daily mail can still get away with being blatantly homophobic in their articles.
i’m stunned that after years of exposure to an out gay son – my mother still reads the dm
as they say sh*t happens ;-(
Nothing new though is it. The Daily Mail will always remain bigotted.
daily mail going to go ballastic! Excellent news, but im sure they will still list reasons why it means end of world is nigh. Given the increasing amout of MBA’s with a couple and a third co-parent though even more flexibility is needed really.
Good news. The cogs may seem to turn slowly sometimes, but they are certainly turning.
I think this is a great step forward. If I am understanding it correctly, then I am pleasantly surprised that they are being forward thinking and making this change. Proves that one segment of the Home Office can be aware and respond to diversity!
I do wonder if it would have been easier just to change the title of the parent boxes to parent 1 and 2 rather than add so that there are now 4 (or more) boxes. There could have been a tick box for identifying as mother, father or other
When my partner and I adopted, the passports were re-issued with our names as the parents. It was far harder in France than in England.
This is good news, and according to the DM there are only 1.5 % of LGBT in this country, nothing could be more farcical coming from that paper, and people believe in their assumptions!
Well that just satisfies their craving to discriminate. Think they’ve very deluded people.
Lies, damned lies and statistics. I could take a clipboard, do a survey and prove the 90% of the population is LGBT – twenty minutes standing on Canal Street should do. Since there has never been a census question, and if there was they couldn’t make it mandatory, we will never know true numbers. And by the time it is safe and reasonable enough to find out, the country will have grown up (and the Daily Heil readers will all have died of old age) and it won’t matter any more.
Indeed Valsky
As I said on another thread recently, the Daily Telegraph recently reported 6% of the UK population as being LGBT based on authoritative research. Strangely, this is another right wing newspaper but the Torygraph appears to be waking up to being honest and fair in its approach to LGBT people, whereas the Mail seems determined to be one of the last bastions for bigotry in the media.
I still think the Telegraph figures are marginally low but certainly more realistic than the Mail!
Very good news.
They get away with it because people allow them to.
Daily Hail, that is.
This is, of course, great news!
.
However, I feel its taken a bit too long in coming since same sex parents could be registered on the child’s birth certificate from April 1st 2010. these 2 changes should have come hadn in hand…. not 18 months later!
.
But… at least its positive steps!
About time.
In June I had to list myself as “mother” to my son, even though I’m male. I dreaded the problems which I thought would be caused but no issues. They obviously have dealt with this quite often before.
The Daily Mail gets away with it because its readership is bigot based, they thrive on it. Sooner or later the fantasy will flatten and hopefully the DM will become extinct along with its management.
“Currently, transgender people can obtain passports in their new gender. But intersex people – those born with chromosomal or genital ambiguity – must pick whether they are male or female.”
No. Intersex people cannot pick anything, they’re deemed to be the sex assigned at birth.
They (or anyone else) can get it changed – if they can get the signatures of two doctors present at the birth to testify that their was a typo on the birth certificate, that’s all.
Impossible for anyone born at home, or with only a midwife or one doctor present. Effectively impossible for anyone over 30.
It’s just common sense, so forms can be filled in accurately. Not political in any way.
Telegraph article, scroll down to comments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/8803082/Mothers-and-fathers-removed-from-passport-application-forms.html
Wow, their story is mischievously inaccurate, making it sound like no one can put down mother or father anymore and thus playing the victim card. Maybe some one with an account can point out that it’s an additional option, and has more to do with good old fashioned British courtesy than anything else.
Can the inaccuracy be reported? given the following it can only be deliberate: “A spokesman for the Identity and Passport Service told the Daily Mail: “IPS is planning to amend the application form and associated guidance to deal with same-sex parents applying for a passport on behalf of a child.
“Currently, the application form provides the relevant boxes of ‘mother’ and ‘father’ to be completed. The new form to be introduced by December 2011 will in addition provide for ‘parent 1′ and ‘parent 2′.”
This is excellent news! Every small action is a massive step for LGBT eqaulity!!!
The Telegraph article posted by Pavlos appears to be a deliberate smear against Stonewall, misreporting the facts in a way that will generate foaming homophobia, as it has done in the comments.
Stonewall and/or the Passport office should take them to the Press Complaints board.
Looks like our pet troll has been posting there too!
I had thought the Telegraph was improving, but this is obviously deliberate online misreporting to create animosity.
i am not a uk resident so this is not a party political thing – but as an outside observer – for all of the raps Labour had to take – they did a lot for LGBT people – i just hope the current government don’t allow slippage.
well done UK !
Anyone know if this is happening in any other countries? Sweet move!
Probably better educated ones!