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Serbian gay Pride marchers face threat of violence

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  1. I love a good fight.

    1. I’d say that’s all you were good at, and even then, the fact you’re on a gay site ranting like a belligerent fool, probably is indicative of you losing most of them… they certainly weren’t argument of intellect, that’s for sure! LOL!

    2. Jock S. Trap 30 Sep 2011, 8:23am

      I think it’s very sad you only say things to get a reaction. Must have a Very low IQ.

      1. Actually I have a very high IQ, and this is confirmed :)

        1. Well you clearly don’t apply it very well …

        2. By whom? Your mother? Bless.

    3. Yes Matthew, I expect you’re the sort of person who gets his kicks watching 8-year-olds fighting in cages.

    4. Fortunately, with your IQ, you would lose – fighting isnt merely about physical strength etc its about tactics, thought and skill – three things you are sorely lacking in ….

      As for fighting, much better to jaw jaw than to war war

      As ever you troll and we laugh at you

  2. Gay Daily Mail Reader 29 Sep 2011, 6:56pm

    People who riot over a gay march are sad. Anybody who finds an LGBT Pride parade offensive should simply stay away. It seems that some people want to be offended. Unfortunately Serbia is a Slavic nation like Russia and unlike the Germanic countries like Croatia and ourselves, acceptance of gays have a long way to go yet.

    1. I wonder if the presence of the Orthodox Catholic Church in Serbia has anything to do with it.

      1. I suspect that it does since the Orthodox Church tends to be rabidly homophobic.

      2. Jock S. Trap 30 Sep 2011, 8:25am

        I suspect so somehow. It’s their style. Can have people being happy and loving now can they…. assholes!

        1. Jock S. Trap 30 Sep 2011, 1:10pm

          Sorry meant ‘can’t have people…’

      3. The Orthodox Church and the Catholic Church (which are two different things) definitely have much to do with stirring up homophobia in various countries. In Serbia’s case, that would be the Orthodox Church.

      4. Interestingly the Czech republic doesn’t even feel it needs to hold a gay pride event because being gay is largely a non-event.

        This is because the Catholic church has never really had a hold there.

        1. It’s a cultural oasis in the east.

    2. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Croatia is a Slavic country just like Serbia and Russia. You are confusing Slavic/Germanic with Orthodox/Catholic. In any case, homophobia is just as common in Croatia although things are arguable moving faster there for various reasons. To simply (and inaccurately) suggest that it is because of Slavic culture is just ignorant.

      1. What has ethnic identity got to do with homophobia? Puzzled.

  3. March on, my brothers and sisters. You lose the battle when you let bigots intimidate you with threats of physical violence and riots. It was similar in other countries who are now much more gay tolerant. Keep fighting the good fight and keep marching forward for progress.

    1. Dr J. Ratburger 30 Sep 2011, 11:03am

      Is this necessarily the right approach in violently intolerant societies? Some brainstorming is in order for an alternative.

  4. They need to march anyway, and never stop marching, you never ever stop marching agianst evils from history or the south, not ever, you never stop the Aclu and human rights department must continue to sue and along with the log cabin republicans go against any abuse of the government that is going on There must be whistle blowers every where against any unfair treatment in the u;nited states and other countries, glass ceilings to lgbt communites and minorites, and immigrants , for genders or race

  5. The jealousy and intimidations and malice and envy by the hetersexual mainly its the hetersexual men, is pathetic, but all gay people continue to find the love of your lives and have wonderful gay partners girlfriends and boyfriends and mates all gay, and protect your loved ones and childrens and mates ,by turning any religion, organiazations , school , police, or any other entity in to the news and national aclu and human rights , continue to sue every one for its abuses of discriminations and abuses, and harrassments, the bigots are jeouslous of you love lives, they are great and loving and peaceful and you have safe wonderful fun and your families or safe and happy, and the hetersexuals are not, they have very violent unhappy marriages, and relationships all the time thats why they try and cause problems for the gay people who are good family people, because they do not, women are not happy in hetesexual marriages, and the children are not safe their either, the men rape kill inses

  6. The leader of Serbia’s Independent Police Union, Momcilo Vidojevic, said police had obtained information that some rightists are preparing an operation under the alarming codename “Belgrade in flames” for October 2.

    “According to our intelligence, hooligans are planning to hold destructive protests in all Belgrade municipalities and in some other Serbian towns,” Vidojevic said on Tuesday.

    More details here:

    ww.balkaninsight.com/en/article/gay-pride-under-question-mark-police-source-says

  7. Serbia needs more peace and less violence!

    1. Interesting, and good for the “Anonymous Coward”.

      And yes, the unthinking Christian Borg are out to get Serbian gays while reports of famine and mindless killing rarely make it to the pulpits.

  8. Jock S. Trap 30 Sep 2011, 8:23am

    They clearly aren’t civilised yet to be so unaccepting of others. Dare anyone to pick on them mind, then we have a very different story.
    -
    Hope this goes as peacefully as possible. Someone has to stand up to the savage thugs, sadly.

  9. Serbia has a choice to behave like a civiised nation or a backward dump this weekend.

    Sadly I suspect it will behave like a backward dump

    1. David, with all due respect when we were first legalised homosexuality in the UK in 1968 we could have been accused of being the same. There were no marches until the 70′s, nor was there the luxury of anti-discrimination laws.

      We all have to start somewhere.

      1. Oh absolutely. The UK was indeed a backward dump in 1968 and remainde so till about 15 years ago.

        1. Exactly, these things take time. As infuriating as it is we sometimes have to let society as a whole change its attitudes.

          We can help, provide information, march for our rights – they’re all good things. But we’ve all had to go through the rough before getting (somewhat) to the smooth.

    2. I do think it is positive that the police have actually stated they will defend the LGBT people – whereas in the past they have attacked the LGBT people or stood back and done nothing when attacks were made. There is something to grasp hold of as positive in addition to the fact Serbian LGBT people are holding a Pride march.

      Of course, the bigotry and homophobia and hate fuelled violence need both condemnation and thoughtful action. The police also need to be more dynamic in dealing with the threat (but the fact they have water cannon on standby is welcome).

  10. Dr J. Ratburger 30 Sep 2011, 10:31am

    It sounds like the rioters of the far right (or are they anarchists?) are just using the tiny gay march as an excuse to start rioting and looting all over the place. I wonder if it really has to do with the gay march or if that is just a convenient pretext.

    1. It’s good to see someone who can read a little between the lines.

      1. Hmmm – last year there were 20,000 protesters and 600 pride participants.

        That means the protesters are very large in number

        1. They are protesting and looting all over, not just in the city where the march is, though the march is the excuse, it’s obvious something more is going on.

  11. Maybe Pink Dot, which is catching on around the world, where gay and straight people celebrate together the freedom to love in a non confrontational way, would be more constructive in these intolerant east European countries.

    1. Dr J. Ratburger 30 Sep 2011, 11:14am

      Some brainstorming for an alternative approach may be in order. After all this is all about love, and in such intolerant societies, confrontational marches may simply harden attitudes and be counter productive. One size doesn’t fit all, and maybe something that focuses more on love, and the freedom to love, and that is in keeping with the local culture would be more beneficial.

      It is essential to have the support and participation of not just gay people, but their families and friends and supporters and to counter fear with love. Pink Dot is a very successful example within an authoritarian conservative country, Singapore, that is catching on elsewhere.

  12. It’s easy to blame all the intolerance on the religious and in a lot of cases it could be valid.

    However, let’s not forget that it’s much more likely to be the far-right extremisits who are going to give the marchers trouble – priests generally aren’t going to go out in public and attempt arson.

    We need to be rational about these things. Generalising won’t help anyone and could very well be dangerous in the long run. Alienating potentional allies and focusing our attention wrongly on the church when the real enemy is somthing quite different can only have a detrimental effect.

    1. Just an aside too. Hitler, Mussolini and other far-right leaders although having the support of religious institutions weren’t that religious as people and this pretty much was the ethos for many who joined the SS and the Blackshirts.

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