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If it is true then this medieval country with its medieval mentality and sharia law is an absolute disgrace to the human race and to the world.
This is outrageous – can I suggest that everyone here joins Amnesty International – they have a good LGBT section that deals with cases like this.
Maybe collectively if we all stand up then we can do something about these idiotic and barbaric practices.
Can I just say though: on a point of order: constantly bleating on about ‘medieval’ every time any story mentions Islam does nothing to help – ‘medieval’ means nothing – its a period in European History – it doesnt accurately describe anything at all. Good things happened in Medieval Europe too – ALONG with bad things. To use that phrase every time anyone talks about Islam or Muslims or Muslim or Middle Eastern Countries is knee-jerk and counter-productive. Lets get beyond the inherent racism and islamaphobia eh? Thats the only way we are going to bring about a better world.
Knee jerk? You think someone calling a country medieval for killing gay guys is knee jerk? As for you thinking medieval only refers to European history. It doesn’t. Go and read some history books. And there is nothing racist about calling sharia law a disgrace. Islam is not a race it is a religion. And with islamic inspired murders of gay guys like this you wonder why gay guys are islamaphobic.
The whole Islam is a religion not a race excuse is the same as saying I’m not homophobic because I’m not scared of gay people.
It’s a technicality your still racist because you are generalising a whole group of people because of what you see some of these terrible countries do in the name of Islam.
It is not Islam that is horrible (or rather no more horrible than any other faith) but the people who use the Qur’an to support there own bigotry
No, you’re wrong. A race is not a religion. Being islamaphobic is not racist, it is islamaphobic, there is a big difference. I don’t like islam because wherever islam has any power gay guys are either imprisoned or killed. Islam is horrible, as is christianity and judaism, and hinduism, and all religions in their own way. But this story is about islam being used to kill gay guys, therefore it isn’t wrong to condemn islam, that’s what the story is about. You might be able to defend a belief system that inspires countries to kill and imprison gay guys, but I can’t. If you don’t think islam is horrible. Go and live in an islamic country, get some experience of islam, then come back and tell us what you think of it then. btw, don’t go to saudi, iran, yemen, sudan, etc, they might kill you, all because of islam.
Hamish is right, who is likely to be victim of islamophobia, is it going to be white bloke with beard or brown brown bloke with a beard? In western world Islam is viewed as a religion of people with the darker skin, so most islamophobes are tend to be racist
Here’s me thinking that we are all members of the human race…
No Kane, Hamish isn’t right. I don’t like islam. But I love every different race. So therefore I am not racist. I just don’t like a religion that justifies and inspires its followers to kill and imprison gay guys. That doesn’t make me racist. So no, Hamish and yourself are wrong.
Uh Oh im not saying you are racist just because you dont like Islam, or that Islam is a race, what im saying is that to a lot of people there is no difference between Asians and Muslims
May I remind you that during the centuries of “witch-burning” it was gay men who were the “warm-up” act. The were burned just as the kindling is burned to start the “main event”. We were literally “faggots” – bundles of kindling wood. So why aren’t we just as Christianphobic as some of us are Islamaphobic? If you’re going to justify prejudice against a whole religion, regardless of the practices of the invidual memebers of it, you must apply the same standard to Christianity, which I doubt you do. Have some historic perspective as Staircase2 appropriately suggests.
a) The term “faggot” relates to the time of the Emperor Justinian and the burning of homosexuals (in what is now Turkey) was a very rare event. I believe that there are only a handful of cases (all pre-Medieval) and all relating to Christian bishops.
b) Homosexuality (sodomy) was not punished by death in the vast majority of medieval Europe. In fact, the “buggery laws” were only enacted in England during the reign of Henry VIII. Even then, the numbers of those convicted under these laws remained negligible.
c) There is no evidence whatsoever for the assertion that i) there were “centuries of witch-burning” [where? when?] or that “gay men [a modern construct that would have made no sense to anyone alive before 1950]… were the ‘warm-up act’].
d) Believe it or not, and many may think it a convenient fact, but the Christian Church has never executed anyone. States which might have been (on the whole) Christian might have engaged in the execution on criminals, mainly basing their laws ..
…on the Decalogue.
e) Islam is currently responsible for the execution of homosexuals in those nations which are officially Islamic (i.e. where the religion is a fundamental part of the State – something, believe it or not, that only happened in Protestant countries in Europe, post-Medieval). It might also interest you to know that we are living in the here and now – Christians (and people of all other faiths bar Islam) do not execute homosexuals, and the Catholic Church actually teaches that the death penalty as a whole is wrong (even for murderers).
f) The first commentator mentioned Amensty International – which was actually founded by a devout Catholic.
“but the Christian Church has never executed anyone.”
“There is no evidence whatsoever for the assertion that i) there were “centuries of witch-burning” [where? when?]”
You seriously need to read better books.
The Inquisition was created through papal bull, Ad Abolendam, issued at the end of the 12th century by Pope Lucius III. In 1506 at Seville the Inquisition made a special investigation into sodomy, causing many arrests and many fugitives and burning 12 persons.
Religious apologist usually equates to blind idiot.
What’s the difference between “but the Christian Church has never executed anyone. States which might have been (on the whole) Christian might have engaged in the execution on criminals, mainly basing their laws on it have” and Islam has never killed anyone just the countries that base there laws on it have?
Read “Homosexuality & Civilization” by Prof. Louis Crompton.
Easy to read, full of facts and figures in a scholarly fashion.
Indeed, Amnesty International would be a worthy cause for all to join as they do much to help humanity. The more that join the more these groups can add pressure to stop these barbaric countries using any excuse to waste life. A right nobody has.
from the website of Iran Human Rights:
The men were identified as: “M. T.”, “T. T.” and “M. Ch.” (age not mentioned for any of them) and besides being convicted of sodomy, had also committed other offences such as kidnapping and robbery, said the report.
http://iranhr.net/spip.php?article2227
Iran has learned to add “other crimes” when they execute people for being gay. It is a smokescreen to silence western critics. My friends in Israel tell me that there are regular extra-judicial islamic executions of gay men in Gaza – of course, that doesn’t get into the news, despite the disproprotionate reporting of Israel that goes on.
im sure your israeli friends forgot to tell you about israel blackmailing gay palestinians into spaying, the main reason for executions
Let’s see some evidence. Or are you simply an anti-semite?
Sadly thosewho dictate sharia law are usually blind to humanity.
I agree totally with Allen. Any time that religious zealots are allowed to force their beliefs upon others, the entire populations suffers. It doesn’t matter what the religion is — they are all close-minded and absolutely certain of their own righteousness – and this attitude is anathema to civilized society.
Can I just remind you that it doesnt matter that someone is ‘religious’ or not – the issue is of forcing your beliefs on someone – politicians do that all the time…
But politicians can be held accountable and are voted in by the people where as religion is a “god given right” to force you views down someone else’s throat
Indeed. Too many people in power think they have the ‘right’ to play their God!
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They don’t and all should be dealt with the murderers they truely are.
Buggering the anal cavity where fecal matter resides and perpetuating the pspread of AIS is hardly civilized is it? When will you filthy perverts learn that it is disgusting and nature is telling you so!
Yawn.
So repetitively dull.
Totally irrelevent, just as you are!
Ewww you use a stick that pee is inside of and stick it in a girls hole which is right next to where they pee :S.
Sex is just generally a bit minging if you think of it like that.
Beyond the banality!!!!
I wonder how Keith explains the massive incidence of AIDS amongst black people, particularly in Africa where christianity and islam are so strong.
I suppose Keith is fine and dandy with lesbianism and cunnilingus. At least that’s something.
Quite unbelievable and very, very sad. I firmly agree with what both Allen and Tom, above have written. It is quite appalling that such a punishment is applied in today’s world. I am not surprised, though, having heard what the Foreign Minister of Egypt’s reaction to homosexualilty was on BBC World’s Hard Talk today.
Agreed! Time for our government to put an end to deporting gay people back to those regimes where they face certain torture, execution or both.
Believe me, if the chrisitan right wing thugs had their way, they’d do the same thing if they could get away with it.
I totally agree. Neither Isamaphobia or Christianphobia should be practiced. But the fundamentalists of both religions should be critisized and challenged for the anti-human-rights possitions and their appalling hysterical cruelty.
Absolutely Robert. Foreign governments, including ours in the UK are just as guilty if they insist on sending people back to their deaths.
Medieval shameless society with no morals the name of Mohamed.
This is just horrific. I’ll never understand the mentality of somebody who is more than happy to kill another human being purely because of the person they are in love with.
Just boggles the mind.
Iran has it’s own law, and anyone else has no business in interfearing with it.
Indeedy, let’s just leave them be. What doesn’t affect us directly is better off being ignored right?
When it comes to protect humans… it does not matter what country/law is to be forbidden.
Matthew, we know already, you’re homophobic. Big deal, many people are stupid. Now how about changing the bloody record, you’re boring the crap out of us….
Yet when a couple of innocent upstanding guest house owners wish to disallow immorality in their premises the gay brigade screm “you are not above equality law”. So, it seems that you only wish to apply the rule of law where it suits.
Filthy hypocrites all!
Yawn.
Totally irrelvent, again!
So they were disallowing immorality were they? Which morality? Did they stop their guests from eating prawn sandwiches in their rooms? According to the bible, that’s immoral.
The equality laws should be applied equally. Gay hotels should not be allowed to refuse straight customers.
Both Matthew and Iran have there head up their asses.
Human Rights and Humanity affects us all, no matter where in the world we live.
Iran doesn’t have Law as in civilised societies – Sharia law is just a set of rules set down as part of an extreme interpretation of the Muslim religion. Law is not separate from the religious state and is interpreted to suit religious leaders. It is not a separate and fair and evolving judicial system as in the UK.
Agree with Alien- these barbaric medieval societies are backward and a disgrace. Human survival requires forward progress not stagnation. And human rights for all, worldwide, in order for the planet to be a better place for humans to live.
Gay rights = human rights
All 56 countries in the Organisation of Islamic Conference (a voting bloc at the UN) have REJECTED universal human rights. All human rights (as far as muslims go) are subordinated to sharia law. Look up The Cairo Declaration, and watch out for the sneaky ways in which the UN is starting to accept this fascist document as a human rights treaty.
In 2005 a proposal was made to allow the practice of Sharia law for Muslims who felt that when it came to Marriage and Divorce Canadian laws were not appropriate recognition of their cultural differences. There were many protest and outrage at the time and it was not allowed.
For many who have never seen the Sharia law, here is an outline of what it contains as posted to inform Canadians at the time it was proposed. The reaction to it by a multicultural society was shock and outrage that it was under legitimate consideration!
http://www.canadianlawsite.ca/sharia-law-canada.htm
Steven Harper is on record today as saying the biggest threat to Canada is Islamicism, but that the problem is ‘diffused’ in the sense that there is no central extremist organization.
,,,and thanks for this link, Steve_R
And Tarek Fatah of the Canadian Muslim Congress has come out and said that Steven Harper is the ONLY politician in the last 10 years to talk any sense on this issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UYeAO1aRkY
May 1000 Tarek Fatah’s bloom.
Mahmood Amiry-Moghaddam, a spokesman for Iran Human Rights, said:”Yesterday’s executions for sodomy might be among the rare cases where the Iranian authorities admit to having executed men convicted of homosexual acts”.
He added: “Iranian authorities normally present such cases as rape, but rape has not been mentioned in this case”.
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In other words, there were no victims here…
This is so sad… they live in such darkness.
I’d like to hear from moderate Muslims about this execution.
moderate muslims? do they exist?
human being + islam = zombie
A brainwashed robotic moron too!
I just can’t believe this could happen, it actually makes me sick to the stomach -someone may have been executed for being gay. Iran is a truly vile country if this turns out to be true.
good grief..it wouldn’t be the first time.. so, so sad…
The previous example of hanging again of 3 people about 2 years ago was alleged to have been because typically the victims had raped some one, When pressed for information by humanitarian sources the allegation was believed to be bogus because different sources reported widely different facts which resulted in the sentence. It was also reported that when these hangings take place they do so publicly and supposedly lots of warning to that they can shame the victims and their families in the belief this will deter other people from being gay
Yet again Iran proves itself to be one of the ‘Axis of Evil’ countries. They complain about American interferance in Middle East politics but are happy to invade the sanctity of peoples’ bedrooms. If Saddam Hussein in Iraq had no issue with homosexuality then why should Iran or any other country for that matter? It is as if homosexuality is a spectator sport! No one should appoint themselves as judge, jury and executioner on God’s behalf – we will all be judged upon death.
I very much think I won’t be judged unless there’s some very clever worms eating me :P
“we will all be judged upon death.”
I prefer the twisted animals to be judged while their alive…. bit late when they’re dead relying on some mumbo-jumbo god-in-the-sky fairy story cto do it for you.
Maybe we should ask Ken Livingstone how he feels now about working for a TV station that is sponsored by the Iranian government.
Since this site is now prohibiting me from leaving a reply to Matthew despite multiple attempts, I will post it as a comment. Matthew said: “Iran has it’s own law, and anyone else has no business in interfearing (sic) with it.”
WWII Germany and pre-WWII Germany had its own laws too. Would you say that “anyone else has no business in interfearing (sic) with it” for them too, with their mass deportations and murders? Preposterous. The safety and human rights of all is the business of all of us!
It appears that one of the forbidden words on this site is the one commonly referring to the political party in charge of pre-WWII and WWII Germany. Who knew. I can understand, somewhat, banning the use of that name as a perjoritive, but to ban it in its historical context? Rediculous!
Just spell it differently its one of those automatic filters so they can’t tell if it’s in a historical context.
Interesting, you can’t say n.a.z.i, but you can say faggot.
Interesting point Will.
It’s inconceivable that in a world so full or war and hate, terrorism and rebellion a country could be so oppressed by narrow minded intolerance and oppressive beliefs they would execute people just for the natural instinct of love and attraction! no crime was committed it was just inhumane and barbaric persecution. No matter how bad we think our lot in life is… we have to be very grateful to be born in the countries we are where there is freedom and logical justice.
…this is appalling news, you’re right…
Why don’t the Americans drop the A or H or what ever bomb they have now, on them? They seem to be killing everything anyway in their Hoily War.
If people are genuinely outraged by this atrocity, then Staircase2′s comment above makes a good course of action:- “This is outrageous – can I suggest that everyone here joins Amnesty International – they have a good LGBT section that deals with cases like this.”
Its a good a way as any to do something about this kind of barbarity.
Surely everyone here is already a member of Amnesty…
Chance would be a fine thing…. :)
And you are too young to know that in the 1990s we had to carry out a campaign to get Amnesty to even recognise gay people in prison as being prisoners of conscience. My letter from Amnesty said “we would lose too much support from religious organisations”.
Amnesty (like Liberty) is not an organisation that has any principles. They are in it for the egos of their employees, volunteers and CEO.
These are not medieval barbarians. They are modern ones. THAT is the problem. And has anyone noticed that the Libyan rebels have announced that the new state’s laws will be based on Sharia? That doesn’t seem to be getting much coverage, surprise, surprise – our rulers will have even less support for military intervention there if the idea gets about that they are ready to have a client state in Libya which might make Ghaddafi look like a pussy-cat. And we’ve been wondering just who was in the tent with the rebels!
mmmm…the way I heard it was that we will be helping Lybia set up a Democracy…
Yep. It’s the way we always hear it.
- Men who engage in sodomy are 860% more likely to contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD), increasing up to 500% their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS. Men who commit acts of sodomy with men that have large numbers of anonymous partners, which can result in rapid, extensive transmission of STDs. Control of STDs is a central component of HIV infection prevention in the United States; resurgence of bacterial STDs threatens national HIV infection prevention efforts.5
Give it a rest, you ex-gay freak.
You’ll be banned soon enough.
Being that PinkNews are trying to deal with the homophobe I will again comment hear. I refused on ground that people like the above can continuously change the debate to suit their own warped, bigotted agenda. We are not up for debate, the stories are and the soon these homophobes realise that the better!
That has no relievence to the debate this story is about. We, and who we are is NOT up for debate.
You’ve cut and pasted that from a text document you prepared… its the 262nd time I’ve read that very comment. Is this all you have to do all day, scouring gay news pages and commenting… really Rich/Will/Keith/other pseudonym, you clearly need to get out more!
People should obey the law of the land. It is there to prevent loathsome disease (spread by immoral perverts who are not averse to the area in which fecal matter resides) that threatens society.
Well the law of the land states that people like you should be institutionalised or imprisoned.
You seem to believe that you can get away with the things you say to other people here.
Well sorry. You cannot.
As said before by someone.
You have been reported for inciting hate.
And the owners of this web based forum will be taken to account for allowing it.
PN are slow in the uptake but the writ that will land on their doorstep will focus their minds.
I’m pretty sure of that.
In the mean time please feel free to fester in your own poison.
Yada yada…yap yap….wibble..burble!
Now he sounds as mad as he clearly is.
Ironically this is the only post of Keith’s that makes sense, on his level.
Yep, it does seem to be getting desperate!
Speaking in tongues again?
Doubt with that we’d notice the difference!
“People should obey the law of the land.”
The same way you sated in another thread “I hold to biblical law and subscribe to no human declaration” and denied you obey any laws.
Its beyond hypocrisy with you, its as simple as you do know what what you are saying half the time.
Wrons . I said that the law of the land should be obeyed except where it conflicts with Gods law, which overrides it. There is no law in the bible which gives license to sodomy and disease spreading practices which kill eeven innocent babies. The innocent must be protected from depraved acts and filthy perversions.
Did you know that the anus is the residing place of fecal matter and should be avoided due to obvious health risks?
PN, we have had enough of this nutcase. Please exclude.
The reporting takes its time, but they are ridding the site of his filth.
Good but sadly not quick enough.
So, what you’re saying is you’re okay with incest despite it being illegal, simple because the bible endorses it.
Fool.
We’ve been over this you schizoid fool.
You’re comments are being removed. You’re filth purged. So why bother correcting you’re stupidity? Bye Bye!
Yet again, this has no relevence to the debate this story is about. We, and who we are is NOT up for debate.
This has, again, no relevence to the debate this story is about. We, and who we are is NOT up for debate.
This has no relievence to the debate this story is about. We, and who we are is NOT up for debate.
if a thing is worth saying its worth saying three times! :) ;)
Disgusting that a country treats it’s citizen and humanity thia way. Hardly civilised and the fact they have such disregard for human life is shocking in the extreme.
yea… I think no other country in the world takes Sharia as seriously as Iran does… well, maybe Afghanistan…
Several do and it’s a cruel, nasty law which it why those calling for it here in the UK need to be put in there place and given the, friendly, choose of staying and being a part of British society or clearing off to a country that can accommodate their nasty warped wishes.
Bye Bye Keith.
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Oh, please lets hope.
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He must have lived by the Good winning over Evil.
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Well if PinkNews are ridding then a classic case of Good (Us) kicking Evil (Keith) in the butt!
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Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say!
won’t he just change his name and come back again?
All those commnts about Christian cults in the past, Inquisition, etc. are perfectly true. Horrific wrongs were done in the past. But some countries and religions have learnt from history. Iran clearly hasn’t. That’s why what happened is so horrific.
Personally I am against the death penalty for anything. Even murder, because it is possible for juries to be wrong and convict the innocent. Any country with a death penalty needs to look at itself. But one that kills people for consenting sex is outrageous.
We’ll see……
Indeed, Will, we will.