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Academia ‘has ignored LGBT issues’

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  1. Mike Homfray 12 Aug 2011, 6:10pm

    It’s also very difficult to gain any funding fOr research in the area. This means that many issues are just not gaining the attention they deserve

  2. What has Alhacen got to do with LGBT issues? As far as I’m aware he wasn’t gay…

    1. Paula Thomas 12 Aug 2011, 6:42pm

      Indeed and neither so far as I know were any of the Arabic or Indian mathematicians whose contributions have been ignored for far to long. The LGBT mathematicians and scientists have been more recent and thus involved in work which will not be taught in secondary schools for some time to come.

    2. Nothing to do with LGBT issues, but the report by the National Union of Students isn’t LGBT focused.

      It said we should be more inclusive: ”with focus on LGBT issues, ethnic minorities and people with disabilities.”

      He obviously falls into the ethnic minority catagory. And to be honest, I hadn’t actually thought about any of this before, but it’s true! Everything I learn’t at school was from White Men (usually Europeans) at G.C.S.E level. It was only at A level and higher you leanr about anyone else…

      1. Why would the skin colour matter though .Is it not the quality of education that is important? How about eye colour, is that important? Do you believe that the ‘brown eyed’ community should be equally represented in academia if it transpires that the blue eyed community are disproportianately represented? Let’s not even get started on green eyes!!!

        1. Jock S. Trap 15 Aug 2011, 8:32am

          Your a bigotted bore – Yawn!

        2. It probably has never occurred to you Keith, but generations of interpreting history through the prism of Eurocentricity has had the result of making a lot of non-European people feel, rightly or wrongly, that cultural and scientific advances exclude them and others of their background.

          1. Chris Park 15 Aug 2011, 3:53pm

            Very succinctly explained, Rehan. :o)

          2. Thank you Chris, nice to be appreciated – even though it’s almost certainly going to be wasted on our friend Keith above!

          3. Jock S. Trap 16 Aug 2011, 10:45am

            Yep, right over his head… look their it goes…

  3. Alan Turing comes to mind.

  4. The history of science and maths was largely ignored when I was at school, so we remained ignorant of all the advances when we were in the dark ages which took place in the Muslim world until their clerics put a stop to it in the 13th century. Fortunately documentaries and exhibitions are filling the gap these days.

  5. The new union student board of academia, must get with aclu and lamda legal and lgbt human rights and get gay alliances mandatory in every school of junior high up and mentors as faculty members and counselors their for them, and their saftey network, this is also a job where lynn featherstone should be lending her actions and support, where the hell are these people, you make the issue known and get them fixed are you sue the school for your abuse as students

  6. Jock S. Trap 13 Aug 2011, 8:08am

    Education should get everyone involved esp for those who have chosen further education. It adds to a better more equal society with the interests that vary and enhance what kind of country we become.

    Exclusion is shameful, it brings nothing and teaches discrimination even without knowing it.

  7. Many are too obsessed with bashing Israel.

  8. Academia has also ignored heterosexual issues so I guess that is equal… except you don’t hear of any heterosexuals whinging about it.
    I may be mistaken but I thought that academia was the advancement of knowledge and learning not lessons about homosexuals.
    I guess I will now have a new label….LGBTphobic….to add to my ‘homophobia’
    I expect homosexuals will want every school painted in the colours of a rainbow before long, The Rocky Horror show will be required learning and Graham Norton will be appointed Education Minister.
    Sad lot!

    1. Jock S. Trap 15 Aug 2011, 8:33am

      You are So boring – Yawn!

    2. On the contrary, as the default position of most historians was to assume that everyone is heterosexual unless proven otherwise, so you could say that until the last few decades academia has done nothing but focus on heterosexual issues.

      1. Jock S. Trap 15 Aug 2011, 1:08pm

        Exactly!!

      2. This left wing agenda to dilute education with social engineering has to stop

      3. Please cite examples on these heterosexual issues in academia. that have been focuse on in the last few decades?

        1. To repeat: as the default position of most historians was to assume that everyone is heterosexual unless proven otherwise, so you could say that until the last few decades academia has done nothing but focus on heterosexual issues.
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          I can keep repeating it till it sinks in if you like, but I think even you might become as bored of it as I already am.

          1. But I do not remember sexual orientation having been mentioned in connection with historical figures. The focus has always been on their expertise

          2. I asked for you to cite EXAMPLES or even one example of focus on heterosexual issues . It should be a simple task for you since you said… “until the last few decades academia has done nothing but focus on heterosexual issues” so my challenge to you is to NAME one heterosexual issue that has been focused on in academia that has excluded homosexuals.

          3. Where have I said that I’m an academic, capable of trawling through every thesis in the last decade? But if you want an example, how about the distinguished historian Robin Lane Fox? His book Alexander the Great largely glossed over the historical figure’s bisexuality and later relationship with a famous eunuch. Disappointing, as that’s what most earlier historians did.
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            Or Roger Casement: you’ll find there are still Irish historians who refuse to believe he could have been gay. Or Byron, many of whose biographers focus solely on his relationships with women, not men or boys.

  9. What about the umpteen wives of Henry VIII and the importance of providing him with a male heir, Keith?

    1. Those are a matter of historical record . They are not heterosexual issues. The same applies to Rehan’s post where he asserts that The book “Alexander the Great” tackles heterosexual issues by default merely because it does not mention homosexuals????
      I asked which heterosexual issues have been tackled and I get a history lesson!!! Writing about historical people is not tackling heterosexual issues by any stretch of desperation! Since there has been no instance of ‘focus on heterosexual issues ‘ in academia, there is no imbalance to address and therefore no n eed to introduce homosexual issues into academia. Let’s not force people to learn about homosexual issues which have no place in education. They are a parental/guardian matter.

      1. Rehan wrote…
        “His book Alexander the Great largely glossed over the historical figure’s bisexuality and later relationship with a famous eunuch. Disappointing, as that’s what most earlier historians did.”
        And where did you read that,in a history book available in academia. OWN GOAL!!!!

      2. It is truly amazing, the degree to which you don’t get it.

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