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Gay Senator David Norris ahead for Irish presidency

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  1. Just to clarify – ‘Oireachtas’ is the Irish word for ‘Parliament’.

    Ireland has a bi-cameral system – an Upper and Lower house of Parliament.

    So he needs the support of 20 senators or MP’s/TD’s.
    Seeing as he is an independent candidate he won’t have a political party behind him which may make a nomination difficult.

  2. No thanks. I would have thought we could do without the landed gentry and their ilk acting as figure heads for the Republic. His wage if successful will be £285,840 not bad when all he does is promote James Joyce (within Dublin). Obama takes home £247,740, go figure.

    1. Who was it that sued the Irish state for the decriminalisation of male homosexuality in the 1980’s?

      Surely it wasn’t some Joycean intellectual named David Norris?

      1. Meh. Grand gestures.

        1. Ireland as a country was changing socially during the 80’s/90’s- Norris made an opportune move when Ireland was shifting regardless.

          1. “Norris made an opportune move when Ireland was shifting regardless.”

            This is disingenuous to say. Regardless of the arguable shift in acceptance or political conditions, he was still the person that did it, and should be thanked accordingly. Who else was standing up at the time to defend basic gay/human rights in Ireland to take the government to the Supreme court?

          2. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 11:22am

            Yea right CMYB. Ireland didn’t start coming out of the dark ages til the mid 90s. David Norris was at the forefront of that struggle and would make an excellent President for our country.
            Do try not being such a bitter twisted old queen with a huge chip on your shoulder as usual.

          3. Paddyswurds, was wondering how long it would take you to come screaming into the fray. For starters I’m not a queen, bitter or old (I’m at least a third your age). Y’know you might be better of voting for this candidate, she’s appropriate for you as she campaigns for people with learning disabilities.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Davis_(Special_Olympics)

          4. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 1:21pm

            “For starters I’m not a queen, bitter or old (I’m at least a third your age) ” Again, yea right. More shame you if that is true as you come across as old, bitter and jaded, certainly not someone who claims to be twenty. BTW, If you are only twenty why are you not out working or looking for a job, instead of sitting clukking in front of a computer screen in the middle of a summers day. Your use of the bitchy “She” when taling about Senator Norris certainly decries you claim not to be a queen and a bitchy one at that. Finally your crass dig at those with learning disabilities marks you for what I already knew you were and confirms it absolutely and makes one ashamed that you claim to be Irish even if you don’t live here…(I hope). Shame on you.

          5. WHERE did I address David Norris in the female? The only ‘she’ that appears on any of my posts in this story is in relation to Mary Davis. You should read thru’ a message before jumping to a conclusion that suits your argument. As for being ashamed of me if I’m Irish, you’re the very person stuck with a 50s mindset towards the UK and its relationship with Ireland. Time you moved on Paddy or else f–k off to a different message board where you might find people who agree with any of your dribblings.

          6. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 2:22pm

            How is supporting Senator Norris a 50s mindset you thick moron. I’m very glad it IS tghe English that have to put up with your childish ignorance. My mistake re the “she” comment was down to your illiterate post where you failed to point out that you were talking about someone other than Senator Norris. . I tend not to refer to links posted by the likes of you and didn’t refer to the one you posted. As for fcuking off anywhere i dont think so bitch. On the contrary it is you who needs to get off the computer and go get a job and stop your negative junevile wittering.

          7. Paddyswurds 22 Jul 2011, 8:09am

            @cmyb…
            ….another idot who thinks Wikipedia is the font of all knowledge. Says a lot about you really.

          8. Paddyswurds 22 Jul 2011, 8:10am

            errata…
            … idiot**, obv.

    2. So your argument is that one of the founders of the Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform would be an inappropriate person to be president of Ireland because of the salary that comes with the post?

      1. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 1:23pm

        @Rehan….
        ……..ignore CMYB. It is a troll who never says anything positive on these threads

        1. As opposed to you paddy who in the past was proven to have been posting under numerous aliases on the same stories on this site. And still have a chip on your shoulder cause you couldn’t handle living in the UK.

          1. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 2:23pm

            …..Never lived in the UK, twat!

          2. Er…….twat this but you have said on record you lived and worked in the UK in the 60’s/70’s/80’s or whatever era, you compulsively lying cretin.

          3. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 5:48pm

            @cmyb…..
            ….foryour onformation you illiterate creep. I said I spent some days maybe weeks there in 1967/68 when i worked in the Merchant Navys Cunard Line. I also said if I remember rightly, that I always dreaded the prospect The place was filthy, racist and blighted with ignoramouses like you,….looks like it hasn’t changed much since then My official home at the time was in the US.

    3. Dan Filson 21 Jul 2011, 9:42am

      Perhaps the salary of President Obama and other US Presidents is £247,740, but there is also a house or two, helicopters etc thrown in and once retired the lecture circuit. No President in the last half century died poor.

  3. He’s not ‘landed gentry’. He lives in inner city Dublin.

    1. You know you can address all my points in one concise response. Anyhow, his heritage suggests anything but inner city Dublin which was my point.

      1. They have had a Northern Irish barrister for the last 14 years so maybe time for a change. Norris may have the air of the landed gentry but having seen him in debate and even had a chat with him, he is far removed from how you are trying to portray him.

      2. @CMYB: so what? What does an inner-city Dublin heritage have to do with being president of Ireland?

        1. I didn’t bring up the inner city Dublin ‘heritage’ David did. And for that matter ‘inner city Dublin’ isn’t exactly the ghetto David is perhaps suggesting it is. Dublin City has as many genteel and well maintained areas as London or any other european capital.

          1. OK fair enough. But what does his being of inner-city Dublin heritage or not have to do with anything? He’s Irish, surely that should be the only fixed requirement?

      3. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 2:26pm

        cmyb…
        You know you can address all my points…piss of and get a job and stop wittering. You don’t make points just inane negative wittering.

        1. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 5:50pm

          Errate…
          ….. piss off**. obv.

  4. As for the presidential salary – well that’s what the president earns regardless of who it is.

    1. I’m making the comparison between the president of Ireland who is effectively little more than a figurehead and that of the US president who actually does make decisions on behalf of the country he represents. Fair enough if you think such a gargantuan sum for the president of a country which is on its knees economically is appropriate.

    2. “Fair enough if you think such a gargantuan sum for the president of a country which is on its knees economically is appropriate.”

      The country is not on its knees because of the presidents salary, its on its knees because of grossly overpaid bankers on €5m plus and their being paid for greedy and ill-advised decisions.

      The people of Ireland wild decide if Norris or whoever else gets the position, you right is not to vote for him, ours is do do as we decide.

  5. All I can say is “Go David” Any candidate that doesn’t belong to one of the old Irish parties is one to vote for! Is Fine Gael doing any better than the previous bunch? I doubt it!

    1. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 1:26pm

      @Brent…
      ….and with it the rest of the world. however I am optimistic that the silent and sensible will prevail regardless and these zealots will be but a flash in the pan.

  6. Jock S. Trap 21 Jul 2011, 8:43am

    A good positive story and I hope ends positive for him too.

  7. Dan Filson 21 Jul 2011, 9:44am

    He won’t win if he continues to wear those tinted spectacles. Voters do not vote for people whose eyes they cannot see.

    1. They’re rose tinted which says a lot really.

    2. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 1:31pm

      @Dan Filson…
      …his tinted glasses are not an affection but are a necessity of his prescription. Without the tint he suffers excruciating headaches. It is something to do with the pigmentation i his eyes…perhaps someone on the thread, who is an optholomist will post a comment to explain the condition better.

      1. Paddyswurds 21 Jul 2011, 1:32pm

        errata…
        …in**

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