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  1. John Hickey-Fry 19 Jul 2011, 12:23pm

    So, how and where do we complain?

    1. Andy Armitage 19 Jul 2011, 2:12pm

      To complain, go to the web form at https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/ (I hope this web address is allowed through in these comments). I’ve just done one. The more they get, the more they may feel they’re in error.

    2. outrageous, shame on the beeb

    3. So which country is backwards NOW, eh?

      1. The USA, Will. Despite the prudes at the BBC, can you imagine any of the major US tv networks showing it?

        1. Yes- HBO- which broadcast one of the best tv drama series ever on tv- SIX FEET UNDER (2001-2005).

          1. Yes, HBO’s Six Feet Under often showed David having interracial gay sex with his black cop boyfriend. And Showtime’s Queer as Folk (generally hailed as light-years ahead of the British version) featured full-on gay sex in every position, venue and pairing imaginable for several years. So yes, WTF, I CAN imagine it.

          2. P.S. I forgot to mention that even the Fox network — home of the most homophobic news programs ever — even THEY showed two gay guys kissing last season on Glee! So, yes, we’ve been having lots of progress in the U.S. whereas your BBC seems to just keep going backwards.

    4. Why would you want to complain?
      Being gay is not all about sex, and we dont really need to see these things anyway.

      1. Not being gay is not all about sex and it’s not when you’re straight. But there is a sex scene on the same episode with Rex Mathison who is straight..I am pretty sure that will be shown as had other graphic sex scene with hetros in the past on the BBC, so yes I think we should complain! You cannot have one rule for one sexuality and not the other!

        1. Scott Burkey 26 Jul 2011, 5:23am

          I just finished watching the episode on Starz On Demand for the second time. While the episode itself was fantastic, and I really want to give credit to Bill Pullman for creeping me out – as jaded an old Queen as I am, that takes a lot of work. The sex scene, however… meh! I’ve seen hotter on PBS. The sex scenes – straight and gay – run simultaneously, in a series of cuts from one couple to the other. About the only “full-on nudity” was a delicious (and very brief!) shot of JB’s playmate’s bubble butt. To give them credit, there were a couple of lines delivered by our good Captain – before, and after coitus (?) – that raised excellent points totally germane to the plot. In retrospect – and this is from someone old enough to have watched the original episodes of Tales of the City – BBC, what’s your point? Are you truly that sexless, and inhuman? Stiff upper-lip to the very end, huh? Sad.

          1. Scott Burkey 26 Jul 2011, 5:28am

            Hmmmm…. note to self. Don’t use parenthesis on PinkNews.com comments board. It comes out as gibberish. Let me guess – you guys put this thing together with the help of Microsoft, right? When you’re ready to build a real Web site call me. My B.S.I.T. must be good for something – and don’t worry about the lame television programming. I’m well versed in finding my own entertainment.

  2. they should show it on bbc 3 later in the evening

    1. Will they though?

    2. It is repeated on BBC2 the following monday at almost midnight, so I think it should be shown in full then!

  3. Cowardice. Utter cowardice. I think I’ll download the American version and watch that instead, just to spite them.

    1. Keith Bradley-Wilson 19 Jul 2011, 11:02pm

      You got a URL where we can download it from yet?

    2. If it is true that all they deleted was JB’s backside… comparing this to scenes ITV airs on Shameless, maybe they should rename the BBC “Being Big Cowards! other wise why film a scene you say can be cut without denigrating the story line.

  4. The question has to be – if it was a hetero sex scene that explicit, would it have been shown. If the answer is yes, then the BBC has broken the rules. If a straight sex scene that explicit would also have been cut, then the BBC are fine to do so (you can do a lot on US cable after all). Well, maybe not fine. I am bored to death with the “think of the children” blather and wish we could have adult television, for adults, with adult content after the damned watershed and let people decide for themselves with a due warning. But the BBC is a nanny and always has been, which is why I don’t watch it.

  5. I’ve already got the American version.

    1. Paul Kirwan 19 Jul 2011, 12:36pm

      How about posting a link then Jim?

    2. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:06pm

      How? It hasn’t been broadcast yet.

      1. Yes, it has. The US are a week or so ahead of the UK so episode 2 has already been shown and thus is available in the usual places.

        1. Epsiode 3 is being shown THIS friday..so it hasn’t aired yet! We get it next week!

      2. Oh, and some unofficial further episodes are going around – though I have no idea how genuine they are.

        1. Why the hell are they getting it first?

          1. Spanner1960 19 Jul 2011, 9:11pm

            And RTD mentioned that people would download the show from the US as it goes out a full week earlier. Oh well, BBC’s loss.
            .
            Now, where’s my downloads?

          2. Because they paid a whack of cash towards the making of Torchwood maybe. Who knows what extras that bought them?

          3. Carka

            Since Starz [a US network] shelled out the money to make the series, the US gets it first. Waiting a week isn’t bad – we had to wait a full year to get the 1st Torchwood seried.

      3. Not sure how given the last peisode was episode 2 and was shown last Friday…I know as I have it. Episode 3 is this coming Friday and we get it a week on Thursday.

  6. This, dear folks at the BBC, is how piracy happens.

  7. Uh, Torchwood is still aired after the watershed, so what exactly is the problem? Had this been a straight sex scene, I bet it would have left in..

    1. Jock S. Trap 19 Jul 2011, 12:58pm

      Exactly, double standards again me thinks!

    2. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:05pm

      We’ll see the proof of that when they air the straight sex scene or don’t.

      1. Jock S. Trap 19 Jul 2011, 3:28pm

        The proof is already out there…

        1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 9:46am

          No it isn’t. They haven’t aired the US or UK versions of either the straight scene or the gay one.

          Oh and you know where this story came from? The Sun. Says it all.

  8. Yes exactly, I want some Captain Jack love and I want it now

    1. Ahhh another gay lady who wants to see it lol

  9. Steve Crossley 19 Jul 2011, 1:01pm

    I agree with John Hickey-Fry. I mean, the BBC refuse to do what Channel 4 were doing 10+ years ago, in defense of their reputation. They need to get over themselves, take their heads out of their arses and wave hello to the 21st century.

    1. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:05pm

      The BBC are publically funded and under attack, though. I agree that they should have more courage (although I suspect that the Starz scene is just too far for BBC 1 and would make it on other channels), but this is quite a difficult time for them and they’re treading a fine line in showing the rest of the show as it is.

      1. Its a BBC production….so they must have known it was in there before they filmed it….!

        1. It is not a BBC production. BBC did not have the money to film it. Starz is an American cable network and they supplied the money which is also why it is shown in the US a week earlier.

  10. This sucks. I can’t even find anywhere to watch the damn thing online.

    This is a massive reason o support piracy when we are not given the full show as it’s intended by the creators … Due to homophobia.

    I’ve stuck by the BBC through a lot but this does it. It’s ok to show bedroom scenes and boobs and cocks all over tv after watershed because they are straight. Make it gay then it’s inappropriate.

    Other week there was the night way h on BBC. Two women naked in a bath playing with tits. A guy got him self off and through the you know what in another guys face.

    That’s all fine to broadcast and waste people’s lives with a crap show but put a sex scene in Torchwood then it’s in acceptable. It’s hypocrisy.

    The BBC is slowly becoming a very conservative organisation. Worrying times.

    1. Night watch * ( worst drama I’ve ever seen. Honestly it just had no point to it )

    2. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:03pm

      Strange double standard there – they’re prepared to put it in one show but not another. Maybe that’s because the situation is different. Like one scene could feature a character who is very popular with children and be made by a channel which pads its shows with very explicit sex scenes.

  11. It is not piracy if you have paid your TV license. The BBC is 100% funded by the British tax payer. Your TV license is essentially your paid annual subscription to view content created and/or aired by the BBC.

    1. I have DLed the Starz addition, but also recording and watching the BBC version to A: log the raitings and B: I am curious just how different they are. Seems this is the biggest!

  12. So, when is a watershed not a watershed? When it comes to gay-themed stuff?

    1. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:01pm

      Possibly when it comes to Captain Jack, who is popular with the kiddies. They shouldn’t be watching Miracle Day at all, but zomg think of the children comes out a lot more in relation to sex than violence and gore.

      1. I wouldn’t mind but the episode is repeated the following Monday at a later time, so they could show it in full there. I even suggested that in my complaint to the BBC.

  13. Which episode contained this scene? I’ve been watching and don’t remember it in either of the two episodes which have aired so far.

    1. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 1:59pm

      Next episode, not the one that’s just gone out. Apparently it’s the best thing about the first three episodes

      1. That wouldn’t be hard :D

      2. No the NEXT episode is #2. This scene is in epsiode #3 which is a week on Thursday. But is this coming Friday in the US

        1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 9:48am

          That’s what I meant. It’s the next episode that will be shown and available to pirate (in all its glory, with those 3 extra seconds of JB’s arse. Yes, that’s the difference according to one of the writers)

  14. I expect this is down to the devoutly Catholic Mark Thompson and his anti-gay agenda.

    1. I had forgotten about the cherrypicky prude, who could’ve lent one or both hands to this …

  15. I agree, explicit straight sex scenes would have been given a pass. Once again, the BBC demonstrating its hypocrisy and double standards. Homophobia is alive and well at the “Beeb”, dont’ ever think it isn’t.

    We should demand that all explicit straight sex scenes in any programme it airs be subject to the same scrutiny.

    Clearly, we don’t have freedom of expression in the UK if we happen to be gay. Nobody complains about hetero naked women in the tabloids either.

    1. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 1:59pm

      We’ll see, because rumour has it that there’s going to be a similarly explicit het sex scene later in the series. If they cut that then you’re right, but Starz is a very different channel which can get away with a lot more explicit material than the BBC can, especially on BBC 1. Maybe if it were on BBC 3 where it belongs they would have broadcast it, but I doubted from the first time they annouced it that they’d show it because they push the envelope so far.

      1. It’s in the same episode. It’s between Rex and the Doctor. Aparently there’s a falling out or something and Rex goes and visits the Doctor and Jack goes to a gay Bar..

        1. Staircase2 20 Jul 2011, 3:11am

          THE Doctor? or ‘the doctor’?
          ps is it just me that thought that Rex’es stumbling out of hospital in his comedy ‘I’m dying’ thing, grabbing any old handful of tablets from the medicine trolley was stupid and reeked of the actor thinking what he was doing was not worth the effort?

    2. I complain about page three girls all the time, as if they had any other attributes than their boobs. I don’t like to see anyone being objectified for anyone’s titillation.

      (uh-huh-uh-huh I said tit!)

  16. i am as disappointed by this as anyone. however, it is worth pointing out that the watershed is not definite cut off point, it is gradual and so only twenty minutes after 9, it is potentially reasonable. also, given the bbc’s defense of eastenders gay scenes to the various homophobic complaints, i find it unlikely that this is based on the gayness of the content.

    1. Whether or not prejudice was the reason for this particular case of censorship, there’s still a body of evidence which points to the inevitable conclusion of homophobia at the BBC.

  17. Mumbo Jumbo 19 Jul 2011, 1:54pm

    And there was me hoping after the last two weeks that the BBC was no longer running scared and that News International and the Daily Heil were no longer in control of the nation’s morals…….

  18. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 1:57pm

    That’s the episode that goes out this Friday in the US, not the one that’s just gone out.

  19. Dan Filson 19 Jul 2011, 2:12pm

    Do you folk only watch TV for sex scenes? FFS, there may be a plot to follow and whilst pillow talk may advance the plot that can surely not be enhanced by detailed rumpy-pumpy

    1. It’s that it’s been cut that is the issue
      that the bbc thought that young folk may be shocked or something
      tbh sex stuff in doctor who is crap as it’s just quickies and pathetic, it’s not about love, committment etc

    2. Galadriel1010 19 Jul 2011, 2:29pm

      TPTB at Torchwood clearly think that the only reason anyone watches it is for John Barrowman’s arse and mansex.

      1. If that were the case then I would be sad but as I prefer PLOT and GOOD ACTING and CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT all I can say is: BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  20. Exspect nothing else from the spinless old FUD’s at the BBC. After all it is a Grown up program not a childs

  21. Ian Hampson 19 Jul 2011, 2:15pm

    Please take a moment of your time and complain to the BBC.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/
    Only takes a moment but if enough of us stand up and say something who knows we may have an effect… One day….

    1. I made a complaint and I suggested they show it in full in the following Monday repeat on BBC2 when it’s shown after 11pm.

    2. Ian

      Shouldn’t you wait to the episode actually airs in the US and the UK to see if The Sun actually was correct – it’s not as if they have a sterling record of reporting the facts accurately.

  22. I am so glad I don’t pay for my TV License. Hehehehehehehehehe! Sorry, I refuse to fund homophobia. x

  23. Jamie Beaglehole 19 Jul 2011, 2:32pm

    My complaint to the BBC…
    “Initially I felt slightly disappointed, but nothing worse, after hearing that the BBC had publically made a point of cutting a sex scene between two men from post-watershed drama Torchwood due to its explicit content.
    However, having searched online to find that the BBC are quite happy to show dramas containing explicit sex scenes between a man and a woman, or two women in many cases (see, for example http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7058756.stm), I can only assume that the BBC are acting on the concern that their homophobic viewers are likely to complain. This in itself is an act of homophobia.
    I’m gay – not particularly a fan of sex scenes in general but I pay my license fee and so I want to see other gay people represented in your content, including in sex scenes after the watershed if the same can be found in your content of straight people or lesbians.
    Please re-consider your decision.”

    1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 9:49am

      And they will junk it because they haven’t cut it out, they’ve just edited it down slightly. By 3 seconds.

  24. John Barrowman talks about the scene :

    www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=v3e3kQL46l8

  25. martyn notman 19 Jul 2011, 2:42pm

    complaint sent!

  26. martyn notman 19 Jul 2011, 2:45pm

    I have been a fan of Torchwood since its inception- ive even got all the books, cds etc and was very much looking forward to the new series. I have now learnt though that the BBC intends to cut a gay sex scene on on upcoming episode, DESPITE it being after the watershed, and despite it already being screened on US television. If the episode were before the watershed i would quite agree, but afterwards is just ridiculous. Not only is the BBC compromising the entire premise of the show by moving it wholesale to the US it is also compromising the one mainstream drama in its stable that comes close to reflecting the large percentage of its LGBT viewership. If the BBC feels unable to show this on BBC one then it should not have taken the decision to put it on that channel but left it on BBC 2/3, or moved it to a later time slot. I find it unacceptable that it is prepared to take advantage of the shows popularity and then do everything in its power to destroy the reasons for its popularity-

  27. missthingsplace 19 Jul 2011, 2:59pm

    What a load of rubbish, this is exactly what the watershed is for … and why not give a warning like they like to do these days ie “this programme contains violence and scenes of a sexual nature not suitable for younger audiences” or words to those effects … the BBC is going to lose fans like it’s going out of fashion.

  28. Complaint sent!
    not that i think it will do any good to be honest!

  29. dave wainwright 19 Jul 2011, 3:57pm

    Nothing to do with a conservative government and roman catholic director general of the BBC, get ready for the new blocks on the kids .

  30. I’ve just downloaded and watched the second episode of this series of Torchwood, the one broadcast in the US the other day, and there was NO sex scene it at all.

    So, I dunno where the idiots got this story from !!!

    1. A later episode maybe?

    2. Paddyswurds 19 Jul 2011, 8:16pm

      @Talldave….
      ….as was pointed out several times above….don’t you read the other comments?….it is Episode three that is causing the furore, which has not been shown here yet but was shown in the US last week.!!!

      1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 9:51am

        Paddy, don’t you read the other comments? It doesn’t even air in the US until Friday ;)

    3. It’s in this Fridays episode in the US and should have been in the UK episode a week this Thurday!

  31. The source said: “It wasn’t that it was a gay scene that worried people, but just the fact it was such an explicit sex scene, full stop.”
    Like hell. Chickensh*ts.

  32. TheSpanner 19 Jul 2011, 4:25pm

    Good. if you want explicit sex scenes, watch porn. Not sci-fi.

  33. But the scene in Children of Earth that showed Captain Jack murdering his own grandson, that was ok for primetime BBC1…? Exactly what are their criteria for what is and isn’t “suitable”?

    1. Excellent point.

    2. I agree!! That was a horrible scene, but that was ok to show!

  34. Bi Social Network 19 Jul 2011, 4:47pm

    It’s not a Gay Scene. The actor is Gay but Captain Jack is Bisexual ie scifi Omisexual. Do we know this other guy is gay? Maybe it’s a bisexual scene 100 percent, if not, at least you should have used the term ‘same sex scene’ for the love of all things geeky, please stop erasing bisexuals out of a bisexual show! Captain Jack Harkness is Bi!!!!! Come on PinkNews, you should know better!

    1. The actor that plays the barman is straight…But it’s still a agy scene, if it’s between two people of the same sex it is still a gay scene regardless if one of them is bi

  35. Bi Social Network 19 Jul 2011, 4:50pm

    now…. Now, I’m not surprised, Starz will show all sex, and that’s why we are happy it’s on Starz, but this was a spin off from Doctor Who so I can see why they did it, but Brits, you, cutting out sex? Why? :-)

    1. Starz may be showing the unedited version but I doubt any of the major US networks would. The BBC are wrong and prudish when it comes to sex (well same gender sex moreso). I personally find it amazing that sex is still such a taboo. It is the most natural thing in the world. Just watch one of David Attenborough’s wildlife shows…..sex, sex, sex……which the BBC obviously think is alright since that is nature…..but hold on aren’t we all just animals who do what nature intended?? Again it is the ‘moral’ right wingers having their cake and eat it. They have sex but think that it is somehow wrong for people to see sex. What a strange world we live in.

    1. Hehehe seems if it’s lesbian, it’s ok and I am lesbian!

      Just shows doesn’t it! By the way what was that in? lol

  36. Alf N. Spit 19 Jul 2011, 5:28pm

    9pm is a bit early for explicit sex scenes, but instead of censoring the show and forcing cuts, why didn’t they just schedule it for 10pm? After all Dr Who is hardly ever on at the same time two weeks in a row.

    1. I can watch gazelles hump each other stupid pre-watershed yet not humans. Get a grip.

      1. What an exciting life you lead.

  37. MyLyricalDreams 19 Jul 2011, 5:40pm

    One word… PATHETIC.

  38. Here is the story in The Sun:

    Barrowman bonk with a barman is banned by Beeb

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/3701858/John-Barrowman-bonk-with-a-barman-is-banned-by-the-BBC.html

    1. Staircase2 20 Jul 2011, 3:14am

      Ooh – The Sun is back up again after being hacked to pieces last night! lol

      1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 5:25pm

        The Sun is making it up again after being hacked to pieces last night.

        Fixed that for you :P

  39. I don’t care if it is gay or hetero scene – if this scene doesn’t change the plot and is not important in any way why put it there in the first place?
    Or was it “for intelligent audience only”?

    1. Agreed. I mean we GET IT ALREADY. Captain Jack will sleep with anyone or anything that he sees so we really don’t need to see it on TV. And I feel the exact same way about the m/f sex scene. I don’t need to see it to enjoy a show. Save it for porn shows.

    2. Since it is an episode where Jack and Gwen “talk about” Ianto, it is probably to show how Jack is now moving on with his life.

      Where were all of you when Davis wrote and the actors uttered those homophobic slurs in COE? The BBC is not the only hypocrite here.

  40. David Gervais 19 Jul 2011, 7:17pm

    The complains page accepts complaints from outside the UK, so everyone! go complain.

  41. Disappointing

  42. Guess what! NOW you’re calling the BBC homophobic, not after CoE and “he smells like a queer”, not after all the stereotypes or after murdering the steady gay couple on the show, nooo, it is ok to bash gays with words, but only because they won’t show what I can only imagine to be a raunchy doggystyle bit o’ humping .
    BTW I’m with the BBC on cutting the sex scenes from MD: gratuitous sex scenes (gay or straight doesn’t matter) are just an insult to the viewers’ intelligence. Because If cutting the sex scene does “not change the story in any way”, it means it was added for gratuitous reason, or to boost the ratings hiding a crap plot.
    Either those complaining didn’t watch CoE and are only jumping on the bandwagon now or they are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites AND shallow people, because they were only in for the cheap sex with naked butts.
    BTW you should also read this
    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/news/headlines/1394-the-truth-about-that-cut-torchwood-miracle-day-sex-scene

    1. I just pointed that out on another comment. I didn’t like COE and I don’t like Miracle Day. Mostly cause I don’t like Gwen and barely like Jack. Davis killed the only ones I really liked. All because he thinks its good drama.

  43. Would they cut this scene if Capt.Jack was having an close encounter with an alien creature? Would kind of funny to see Capt.Jack ‘humping’ a large pile of latex with maybe 60 plastic eyes LOL!!

  44. I maybe a gay wamen, but I still take offence to the BBCs attitude! There is also a sex scene with Rex Mathison in this episode. Are they editing that too? I think not myself.

    I am not happy being treated like a child by the BBC, we’re not in china!

    I have already put in a complaint myself and SUGGESTED they show the episode in full tin he following mondays repeat where it is show much later!!!

    1. A sex scene where one of the couple has a (how did the article put it?) oozing hole in his chest is just gross.

  45. They had a straight sex scene just after the watershed the other week, on the program about the private investigator, Jackson. Itv and 4 had similar scenes on the same week! So why cannot the BBC include this scene?

  46. Do they know who watches torchwood? People who like explicit man on man, woman on woman, man and/or woman on alien sex with a side order of violence and melodrama! If you don’t like it…

  47. I can’t stand watching John Barrowman fully clothed, let alone fully nude and …
    Anyway, it seems the Beeb is guilty of double standards once again. The law should be on our side this time.

    1. Could the BBC be liable to prosecution, if it can be proved their decision is nothing but biased on the grounds of sexual orientation?

      1. Galadriel1010 20 Jul 2011, 5:26pm

        If it could be proved, then possibly. As it’s all a storm in a teacup over 10 seconds of what they’ve been promoting as porn, I doubt it.

  48. Censorship should be banned entirely in an alledged “free” society in which freedom of speech and expression are supposed to be at the core of our “democracy”.

    Will, yes, we are a backwards country when it comes to sex and a hypocritical one too.

    1. Thanks, Robert, for being the only one who will admit the truth. There is always so much anti-American sentiment in these comment sections, it makes me realize that Ruthanne was right on the TV show “Northern Exposure” when she said, “We had a revolution to get rid of people like you, ya’ know!” Seriously though, I honestly don’t understand where this smug British superiority complex comes from when it’s so obvious from reading the stories on this site that the U.K. seems to have just as much homophobia and extremism as in the States. The only difference would be the size of the population. The U.S. has about 245 million more people than the U.K. so there are bound to be a few more nutcases coming out of the woodwork, screaming for attention (like the wackos at the Westboro Baptist church). And before anyone tells me you don’t have religious extremism there like we do in the U.S., go read the most popular story on this website about the Islamic posters being posted in London.

      1. Will, I know the UK isn’t perfect but at least if you moved to the UK you could legally bring your male spouse who would be recognised equally in law to a straight marriage (although we are campaigning to get rid of the ‘civil partnership’ label in favour of married lol). Moreover, if any Politian were so say something like ‘legalising gay marriage is an extreme experiment in social engineering’ they’d be from a fringe party/lunatic asylum not the liberal end of conservatives. To say the vain of homophobia is limited to a similar proportion of the population as the UK I think is incorrect. Improvements are slower in the US as it is a much more conservative country (once you get off the coasts). This is a relatively unusual example of apparently homophobic censorship but remember the story is in the Sun, owned by New International, owned by he-who-should-not-be-named, and he thought until very recently that the BBC was going to significantly castrated to make way for his media empire.

        1. “He-who-should-not-be-named”…? So you people actually DO tremble in fear at the mere mention of the name Voldemort, huh?! LOL! Seriously though, if I wanted to move someplace where gay marriage is legal, I’d certainly choose of the states here where it’s been legalized. Reading the comments on this site have definitely put me off from ever even wanting to VISIT the U.K. where the people are apparently so arrogant and unfriendly, much less MOVE there and be surrounded by that kind of attitude all the time. From what I’ve read here, I’m sure American immigrants would be just as welcome there as Mexican ones are here.

          1. I’m sorry you feel that way, but please don’t let a few comments on a website put you off an entire country. I’m an American immigrant to the UK and have encountered nothing but welcome, kindness, and friendship.

          2. If it really were just “a few comments,” I would be able to ignore it, but every single story ever reported here about anything that happens in America is always plastered with comments like “Oh, look how stupid and backwards those ignorant Americans are. Everything is always so much better here in the U.K. because we’re so much smarter and more evolved than they are.” That kind of smug arrogance gets really hard to ignore. If you still have an American accent, I wonder what all those people who are so nice to you in person might be saying behind your back…

          3. I’m from the UK, I think you get stupid people wherever you may go. I have been to the US before, it was the best. I have a friend from PA, been mates with him for over 6 years now. I just hate this arrogant people that put others down! But if you think this is bad, you should try playing Xbox live.

          4. Scott Burkey 26 Jul 2011, 5:47am

            I have to say, Will, you don’t know the Britts and Aussies very well at all. I’ve spent an entire year in Europe, several years ago, and if you want “arrogant” you need to go across the Channel. Not even the Germans, Austrians, or the people I met in Lichtenstein were as nasty as the French. Or should I say, “the Parisians” – the people in Lyon were fabulous. Add to this that I lived for 20 years in New Orleans and Las Vegas, where we were blessed with HORDES from across the Pond and Down Under. Now, maybe it was just the fact that I’ve never seen anything remotely human that can drink as much as an Aussie and still remain upright and breathing – but I’ve never met anyone from either nation that I could point to and call “arrogant”. Not without calling myself a hypocrite. Let’s face it… nobody does arrogant better than Americans.

  49. I thought that the whole point of the watershed being in place was that scenes like this could be shown after it? Whether it’s 20 minutes or 2 hours as long as it’s after.
    Hmm – excuse my ignorance…

    1. Also, I think they included a clip of that scene in the preview of the entire season, there was a Captain Jack sex scene in it anyway.

  50. Deborah Davidson 21 Jul 2011, 3:41am

    The Sun has its facts wrong, there has been no episode shown in the US with a bar scene with Jack or anyone else. So since The Sun was wrong about the issue airing, what makes you think they got anything else correct?

  51. Robbie the Red 21 Jul 2011, 12:21pm

    the whole thing is so bloody dire I wouldn’t care if they cut the whole episode. but the principle that hetero is ok and gay isnt 20 mins after the watershed is important. the BBC should own up about that.

    1. THE BEEB AND ITS NEW “MANAGEMENT” has got its proverbial knickers in a twist and I fear the more we complain about Captain Jack and the like the tighter it will clench its rhetorical buttocks!
      How sad.Joh

  52. I complained and they actually responded. I am FUMING!

  53. ALL THAT FUSS FOR NOTHING. The sex scene was about 30 seconds long and switched back and forth between the gay and the straight couple. I had to go frame by frame to see any gay boy skin at all. Oh much ado about nothing.

  54. SO just watched the scene… seriously? THAT was what the BBC have censored? Bloody hell BBC… there’s worse than that before the watershed all the time…

    Big fuss about bugger all!

  55. I’ve seen the scenes in question, and they’re no more graphic than other sex scenes shown previously on other shows. At the same time, interlaced with the gay sex scenes, there are heterosexual sex scenes. If they cut the gay ones, they’d better cut the straight ones too, otherwise they will be showing themselves up as hypocrites. Show both, or don’t show either BBC.

  56. Disgusting…….the beeb should be ashamed of themselves

  57. jamestoronto 29 Jul 2011, 2:27am

    The Canadian channel that carries Torchwood – Space Network aired the mellow BBC version last Saturday. Nothing that would upset my grandmother. It was on 10:00 and on a cable network, so no excuse for the watered-down edition.

  58. the gay scene was shown tonight and was very explicit lol

  59. Whilst agreeing with many of the comments here – surely cutting any scene with Barrowman even partly naked is a kindness to humankind.

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