She is such a cowardly pawn; the girl has no backbone. A total twit. She would play whore for the devil just to keep her job.
Is Bryant and his labour cronies going to apologies for leaving this country with the biggest budget deficit in history? Thought not, the stench of hypocracy oseing out of the labour camp is un real.
go and read the daily mail
Are you Kay Burley’s agent?
This story is not suggesting that Bryant is whiter than white. But you seem determined to ignore the story and just bring up your agenda.
The above is directed at “Craig” obviously.
You mean ignore the story like ignoring the last Labour government and the mess they left us in?
Kate Burley is doing a job which is more than I can say for the sensitive soul of Chris Bryant.
@Jock S Trap
Kay Burley and journalist are words that should not be in the same sentence …
Ok bit like Chris Bryant and Politican then, yeah?
I would personally disagree with that perspective on Bryant – but you may hold that opinion
Thank you, glad to have your permission Stu!
I realise you dont need my permission to hold that opinion lol
you think Chris Bryant isn’t doing his job properly? Then frankly you are bigger idiot than even I had thought. The hacking scandal owes its genesis to two hardworking MPs who have worked assiduously over the last two years:
Chris Bryant and Tom Watson
First to persuade the government to open the investigation again (Operation Weeting) and to keep the wider media reporting on the issue. They did that largely alone until two weeks ago and the seismic shift in the politics of our nation that happened on Wednesday with the allparty vote and the setting up of the two inquiries as well as the ongoing Operation Weeting are frankly a tribute to the tenacity, bravery and integrity of these two creditable politicians.
And you have the temerity to compare one of them unfavourably with a piece of slime like Kay Burley. Shame on you!
Whiter than white? Chris Bryant was knee deep in the expenses scandal and his stiff, blank-eyed ilk put the “b” in bureaucracy and all the meddling, suffering and wasted billions that implies. Yes indeed, hypocrisy rules supreme in the corridors of Whitehall. It would be more helpful to our cause if Marxist robots like Bryant stayed inside the closet.
Even if we accept that Bryant was as tainted by the expenses scandal as some on here suggest (and I would suggest that this is not the case) then that does not preclude him from having a position of integrity on these matters. The fact that Jeremy Hunt, Damian Grieve, David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Ed Milliband and numerous independent commentators have commented on the integrity of Bryant in his approach to this matter demonstrates the political opportunism of those keen to refer to expenses (which the parliamentary watchdog is content about).
Stu, I think you’re too kind. Chris Bryant is everything bad about NuLabour and if he had any self-respect he’d be long out of politics – I’ve wiped better off my shoe frankly.
That said though got to give him credit for having a go here
Would you like me to pick up the guardian when I go and buy one??
lol it was THE BANKS – Labour is not responsible for it – its a global phenomenon for focks sake
The only stench right now is coming from Murdoch’s arse…
Which makes your post even odder….
Did you not read recently the revelations about Murdoch’s Tax situation in the US?
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that Labour is innocent.
Luckily most of us in a decent society know better and vote in response.
Not saying myself that Labour are innocent – all parties are guilty to one extent or another …
That does not mean that Labour can not seek to ensure we have a better political arena in the future that has less influence from the media and corruption.
This issue is not entangled with the expenses saga. This issue is not a judgement of Bryants integrity.
Craig you sill slaphead
Excellent point Craig.
All thing we’re supposed to forget about.
The lack of brain cells from some people in these comments is astounding. What has a budget deficit got to do with phone hacking?
The slaphead must of forgot to put his hat on
If you bothered to read my post rather than just jumping to the guardian mode you would realise that the point I was trying to make was that it’s was hypocritical of Bryant to demand an apology when he himself has not apologies for issues he is responsible for. Obviously, everyone has different opinions, it’s just a shame that certain people’s opinions are based on the basis of his sexuality rather than his record in government. A sleazy, expenses fiddling, hypocrite. :)
Well said, Craig!
I really think his sexuality is incidental to all of this (but may have had some impact on the expenses issue – which the parliamentary watchdog accepts and has not taken issue on).
Regardless of all of it, his integrity in seeking out this issue is not doubted by most involved with it.
Just because Bryant is perceived as being required to apologise for one act does not mean that Bryant should not request an apology for an unrelated wrong towards him. (otherwise it sounds like a playground mentality)
Until the Labour Party and it’s ‘members’ apologise for the state they left this country in, including the Hacking scandal, they don’t deserve any apology from us.
Bryant wanted Burley to apologise not anyone else
I know Stu and as we’re unlikely to ever get an apology from him or Labour he doesn’t deserve any apology either.
Well leaving to one side whether or not Bryant should provide us with an apology; I do not consider that an apology to someone should depend on their apology to others or worse on the apology to others of an organisation they are part of
Guardian mode? What you talking about? First the budget deficit, now the guardian. What’s the guardian got to do with it?
Oh dear, trust a Pink News debate to descend into an utter farce…
Honestly – whether you’re a Labour or Tory supporter – we should all admit that both sides failed in dealing with Murdoch and that both parties severely let us down.
However I have to say Craig, you points about the economy is this debate make absolutely no sense. & I in all fairness to Mr Bryant, like I’ve said recently I haven’t always been his greatest fan, but he’s handled himself well in this scandle.
your* and ignore the I after the &.
Thank you James, for your rather useless input into the debate. Your bullying way directed at people for whom you do not agree with makes you childish, uneducated, and moronic. :)
Erm Craig love, I think you’ve confused me with ‘James!’ If not I really don’t see how my previous 2 posts have been written in a “…bullying way…”…
Craig is just projecting – he’s the the most aggressively irrelevant twat here.
Unfair comment Arfur when all Craig is doing is debating.
You might not like someone elses opinion but they have a right to it in a genuine debate.
Debate should never be silenced.
No Apology then Craig???
Kay Burley – the amazing journalist who asked the question of the ex wife of the Ipswich prostitute murderer “Do you think this would have happened if your sex life was better?”
The interview of Bryant by Burley has nothing to do witht he budget deficit.
Even more important than the budget deficit (important though it is) is removing corruption, undue influence and criminality in politics, the police and the press.
“Corruption, undue influence and criminality”. Has Bryant apologised for the excessive claims on expenses, or was it “within the rules”? He’s just as bent as the rest of them (if you pardon the pun). Bryant now taking the high ground just makes him look like a stupid hypocrite, this man was in the cabinet that instructed Damien Mcbride to send out false stories concerning members of the opposition, not to mention a favourite of Alastair Campbell. There all as bad as one another, it’s just a shame that this disgraceful behaviour by news international has now turned into a labour agenda, more interested in scoring political opportunism, rather than letting the police complete a full and proper investigation.
I am not going to defend Bryants expenses claims – and I have no knowledge of what was correct and what was not. What I can say is that he has given an explanation relating to homophobia and a need to move that the parliamentary watchdog has accepted. He has repaid a small amount of expenses back. The parliamentary watchdog has neither censored him nor referred him to the police for criminal investigation. I therefore whilst not justifying any action (not accepted by Bryant, not prosecuted by authorities and not found guilty of) regarding expenses – I give him his right in law of being presumed innocent.
Bryant has been consistent in his approach to the story of phone hacking and media corruption. He and Tom Watson have been firm and fair in their clear and consistent approach (congratulated by all parties) in condemning the illegality and corruption and seeking remedy.
The disgraceful action by News International is a multi party agenda that Cameron has lost a grip of and …
…failing to recognise the breadth and wealth of public opinion on this matter.
Its sad that you are taking political opportunism on it to slam Bryant (for being Labour) and for Labour, for doing the job of an opposition to raise concerns of significant gravity that are of massive public concern. Milliband and others have accepted the former Labour government could have done more, as could all parties. There has been humility from all sides on this matter – and anyone taking political opportunism on this (whether mainstream politician and in the public spotlight – or otherwise) is disappointing. Clearly all three major parties are supporting the Labour resolution in the House tomorrow … sounds like consensus to me.
Political opportunism will always be on the cards in situations like this. People need to step, and allow the police to do the job they failed to do last time. Politicians interfering are putting the police investigation at risk. After all, the point I believe you was making above concerning Bryants expenses, no criminal proceedings concerning recent allegations have been subject to any criminal convictions yet, therefore until proven otherwise MPs should stop and allow the law to take presedence. But my point concerning the interview above was the fact that Bryant has the nerve to demand apologies on TV yet fails to apologies for the disgraceful government of the living dead for which he was a part.
Had Burley asked him a question about the budget legacy, or invited an apology?
Political opportunism from you then I am afraid
Funny hopw apologise are only to go one way.
Bryant is a opportunist who does everything to avoid answering questions so long as he can get the focus drawn to him and no-one else but hey, he just ain’t That important.
Sorry I made a mess of that message…
Bryant has been campaigning on this since 2003 (and possibly prior to this). It was in 2003 when he asked Rebekah Brooks (then Wade) and Andy Coulson about payments from News International to police officers – hardly opportunist as you suggest
If he has been campaigning since 2003 then Labour are as guilty as I suspected, which begs the question, why now?
Labour knew about all this and Failed.
If only it were so simple …
Yes Bryant and others have been campaigning since 2003 (and possibly before) … does that mean they knew everything that is now in the public domain – I doubt it …
Does campaigning (even for a middle ranking minister for some of the period) mean that the core strategic leadership are prepared to take on News International and Murdoch, be accused of electoral opportunism … clearly not …
Does that mean Labour are devoid of criticism for not acting – certainly not, they should have done so … but to then sully Bryant because his party failed to act despite hundreds of references in Hansard and the press to his concerns about duplicitous media morality is inaccurate and opportunistic itself
er, Craig “Operation Weeting” was only initiated in January BECAUSE Chris and Tom Watson in conjunction with Nick Davies at the Guardian had been relentlessly campaigning to have the investigation reopened. Frankly I am dismayed at the ignorance of some of the contributions here.
“Even more important than the budget deficit (important though it is) is removing corruption, undue influence and criminality in politics, the police and the press.”
Yeah and something Labour clearly knew all about. Somewhere wrapped in all this corruption I have the strongest feeling we’ll find it wasn’t just Murdoch but very much he was twinned with Blair and the Labour Party.
It has all the scent of them…. A very bad one.
Bryant is far from an opportunist on this issue. He has been consistent on this issue for over a year, relentless and balanced criticising all parties to the issues (Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, SNP, police, News International and other media outlets amongst others).
I don’t believe that any politician knew that 7/7 victims were hacked, Milly Dowlers phone was hacked, the phones and emails of servicemen killed in action were hacked etc etc although if you have evidence that a poltiician of any political complexion does, I suggest you bring this to the attention of DAC Sue Akers.
I am smelling bad scent on Labour, Conservative, police and News International in particular. To then condemn Bryant on this issue is fatuous and demeaning
…but still my opinion for which I am perfectly entitled.
It always strikes me the double standards we have.
It the Tories do something wrong we rightly or wrong never let them forget.
If Labour do exactly the same, it must be the Tories fault somewhere.
It seems what the Tories do they do alone but when Labour do it everyone else must be involved to and must be everyone elses fault too.
It doesn’t take away the fact that while all this hacking scandal is now finally being investigated it happened at a time when Murdoch openly supported Tony Blair and Not the Conservative but the Labour Party.
I simply do Not believe that all of a sudden it comes to light that thousands of people were hacked including victims and their families esp when it’s convenient that now Murdoch supports the Tories.
This stinks and it is Labour’s style which is why I wonder how much They actually know.
As for Bryant, prehaps he should change jobs if he can’t take criticism… Surely as part of public life it should be expected.
Fact is he chose to use Kate Burley’s time to focus on him, as if he was only what mattered.
The second this week he used Sky for his agenda not that of the Hacking scandal.
Sure he make talk about it but why does he refuse to answer when questions get tough?
Maybe he should stick to Labour driven BBC and C4 if he wants it all about him and his way.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion (I believe you to be entirely wrong in this matter, but you are indeed entitled to hold a wrong opinion).
You also know I am no apologist for the Labour party, nor a supporter of them.
I think balanced views on the current situation will see that all three parties (arguably the LIb Dems less so) have shame with regards the issues that have been raised.
Bryant can only be congratulated for his integrity and honesty in bringing this issue up in a consistent and sustained manner. Indeed, most government front benchers and journalists of all political persuasions have endorsed the powerful speech Bryant made last week and his consistent message to parliament, the media and elsewhere on this issue.
Concerns about his actions in other political issues are irrelevant to this matter.
I think this blog sums up the situation nicely:
Thanks for posting that, Stu. A succinct and well argued argument in that blog.
Kay burley is a tawdry murdoch harridan who is known for being extremely rightwing, homophobic and generally an unpleasant person. This comes as no surprise. It was also be great if comments related to the issue here – and not with the past political party’s economic policies.
I’ve gone right off her now!
I’m surprised Bryant hasn’t screamed homophobia. Thats what he usually does when he doesn’t get want he wants. Not to mention his bully approach of name calling, “Dim wit” This man isn’t fit to be an MP.
He didn’t call her a dimwit.
He was the only Mp who stood up to Murdoch. And what have you done with your life craig the cue ball?
That attitude make me laugh, James! why does comments and opinion have to result in “well what have you done?”…
It’s almost as bad as screaming racist or homophobia when there isn’t any just to quosh someone commenting.
It’s quite frankly, pointless.
Chris Bryant put his neck on the line News Intl are complete b’stards and probally threathened him too. Kate Burley is a cow too defending murdoch and the rest of them. You should be ashamed of yourself these are very bad people
If the Labour Party new all along that these crimes were happening why did they fail to sort it?
Lets not forget that all this started when Murdoch supported Labour and Tony Blair, when of course it suited Labourites.
It smacks of hypocracy to focus on who Murdoch supposes now when the time in question he suited Labour and it suited people like James!.
Whatever the politicans say all these crimes have been during the last Labour government when Labour themselves were pals of News International.
Something too many choose to forget, I wonder why?
James! you’re right on this one. Politicians from all side are having a field day kicking Murdoch now that he’s weakened. Watson and Bryant have been courageous in pushing this issue for the last two years in the face of veiled and not so veiled threats to their careers and personal lives. We should all be grateful for their tireless efforts.
Cheers wingby. When I saw Bryant in his underpants I thought he was a complete undignified twat. But he has redeemed himself
So why in the last couple of years?
Why did Labour not act?
I guess a General Election was looming.
And that could be either for electoral reasons or for fear of saying they were taking advantage of the election to take such a stance as Brown suggested yesterday – I don’t know which is correct or if its a bit of both or another reason … but its not as simple as you suggest – its wrong they did not act but to condemn Bryant for that is too simplistic
Again James, your rejection of other people’s comments are not to debate them, but to turn it into a personal agenda using derogatory remarks as away to put your point across. Your bully like tactics are un called for, childish and ignorant.
Here! Here! Craig!
Craig, you think calling a vile reporter a dimwit is bullying? But the prime minister calling someone a Queen isn’t? Or how about your name calling in other comments? And you call him a bully? I reckon there are more intelligent amoebas than you.
Eddy two it’s dreadful that these guys are comparing what labour did to these immoral money grabbing animals Sky and News Intl are finished they can wallow in the cesspit with Jock and Craig
“dreadful that these guys are comparing what labour did to these immoral money grabbing animals Sky and News Intl”
That has to win the award for most comical comment yet.
Oh and that’s not a bullying comment is it Jock Strap. Great debate there. When are you gonna realise you’re the biggest bully on these threads.
Whatever eddy two dear.
Do yourself a favour and grow a pair and stop trying to silence people with inaccurate accusations.
Learn how to debate mr, rather than try to silence then.
It’s why I probably don’t take you seriously knowing your past attempts.
LOL. What a Queen. Where should I go to learn how to debate? Debating school? Too funny. How’s that brain cell of yours doing today?
How did this happen? – I 100% agree with you!
@eddy That has the whole (he called me so I’m calling him back) attitude all over it. And of course there are far more “intelligent amoebas” out there than me, as you also. The difference is i read and make my mind up throughout various sources, not just whats printed in the guardian.
I also looked at varied sources not just the Guardian and not just the Times or other News International sources …
When Bryant has alleged homophobia I don’t recall him screaming – he referred the matter to police and then calmly and succinctly explained to media enquiries what his perspective of the scenario was.
Trouble with Chris Bryant is he appears to much like the boy who cried homophobia, usually when there is none but hey it gives him headlines.
Tends to be why I don’t have any respect for him.
The boy who cried … usually requires continued and repeated course of conduct … Now, he hasnt accused Burley of homophobia here. The only times I am aware of him mentioning homophobia (correct me if I am wrong) is when he was forced to move out of his home, the release of his photographs on gaydar (which arguably was a error of judgement on his part to publish online – although equally why shouldnt he?) and comments regarding Rebekah Brooks comment about him supposedly being on Clapham Common. I personally have experienced more homophobia than that and it doesnt strike me as the conduct of someone crying wolf ….
I tend to have respect for him due to the honourable way he has handled himself in this particular episode and stood up to the dark forces of News International, politicians and others … You may not respect that, but I fail to understand how anyone wouldnt
It’s just ashame he didn’t bother to get his own party to act.
I have no reason to doubt Brown and Bryant on this when they both say that Bryant tried to persuade Brown to take action, and that Brown was minded to but decided not to …. its Brown who needs holding to account there, and Blair before, and Major before, and Thatcher before ….
This scandal so far isn’t about Major or Thatcher.
These crimes so far didn’t happen with those but it did under Blair and Brown.
Stop justifying Labour by dragging all else into it.
It happened on their watch, therefore they must take responsibility for this.
It all smells of Labour so I really wouldn’t be surprised if at some stage we get to hear their real involvement… probably after 30 years.
I will bring in what I consider to be relevant to this debate in the same way I welcome and endorse your right to bring in what you consider to be relevant. So I would ask that you show me the common courtesy of not trying to restrict what I can or can not say.
As for Major and Thatcher, whilst (as yet) there have been no direct evidence presented that links them or their administrations to misconduct either politically or media misconduct there has been speculation and discussion about the influence of Murdoch on Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron. It is clear and evident that such influence did exist and is worthy of scrutiny and to limit this to Labour is wrong and partisan.
I don’t believe at any time I have even tried to stop you debating Stu.
Your clearly seeing something I have not written.
So our opinions conflict, so be it, thats debate but don’t make unfounded accusations, it doesn’t become you mr.
Thought you were better than that.
@jock s trap
We clearly had a day where neither of us had good days yesterday (I had been for tests to see if I have cancer or not – but I should have asked for clarification from you not let rip – sorry)
It was the word stop that I reacted badly to and interpreted as an attempt to restrict my arguments. Sorry
We clearly don’t agree and clearly both have some evidence to demonstrate our reasoning. That’s not a problem to me
Thats ok Stu, hope your ok and the tests are ok too.
Knowing what your going through I can’t say no more than that other than repeat I hope the tests turn out fine.
Typical Labour, anything to avoid answering questions and I have to say typical Bryant who clearly wants to be the news not talk about it.
Jock News intl hacked the phone of a dead girl. Nothing Labour has done could be as immoral. Stealing money is nothing compared to giving false hope to Milly Dowlers family. Seriously you need a reality check
My God James! what are you blithering about, Get real..
No-one (well not many) disputes what NI has done is dreadful and personally I’d like nothing more than for them to close full stop but people ARE entitled to have their comments and opinions.
My point is for the second time in a week I have seen and heard Chris Bryant on Sky to talk about Hacking but only to when and where it suits him.
If he’d rather demand apologises than talk about the news at hand then thats his look out but a waste of time for the rest of us.
I have long come to the conclusion that is Chris Bryant doesn’t like others being critical of him or have opinion then he is clearly in the wrong job.
Maybe he should stop the bitchin and deal with the issues.
All Chris Bryant is doing is drawing attention to himself, stuff all else, stuff all others affected and rather than talk about the seriousness of this whole issue just wants to talk about… well Chris Bryant.
The NI Scandal is the only issue that matters at the moment. The man who’s endorsement politicians have craved for the past 40 years turns out to be running a criminally fcuked up organisation. The whole country is changing so it takes priority. And what “real issues” are you on about?
So maybe he should focus on that rather just get all sensitive about something that happened a while ago.
If he can’t stand that some reporter stand up to politicans then I suggest he change career.
Not all reporters are Labour controlled like the BBC and C4.
Tough questions have to be asked, if Chris Bryant chooses to avoid, delay in answering in favour of being a sensitive flower thats his look out but more fool him.
You’re confused. When Chris Bryand said that hacking was endemic at NoTW she said he was lying and had no evidence. She was wrong and has no integrity. If she admits her error it may lead top her assessing her whole life and who would want to analyse that hot mess
So did Chris Bryant go one a news channel to highlight a problem and it’s effects or did Chris Bryant go on a news channel to get a public apology?
Considering whats going on right now I think the latter, ie him, is far less important than the whole of this story about NI.
The world doesn’t stop for Chris Bryant.
Again he just ain’t that important.
What questions do you think Bryant is avoiding?
Have you heard Bryants speeches in the House?
Have you seen his writing on this issue?
Have you seen his many interviews on this (understandable given the media storm and that he has been one of a handful of MPs brave enough to raise this – he sponsored the initial questions in parliament last week!)?
Why shouldnt journalists be held to account (not that Burley should be called a journalist) – isnt that why they have got away with this for so long?
Jock he got asked to go on Sky News as he had been dealing with this scandal longer than most, If you had the chance to be go face to face to someone who called you a liar when they now knew you were telling the truth would you not at least expect a bit of humility.
“What questions do you think Bryant is avoiding?”
They always seem to involve why Labour failed to act.
Oh and I don’t think he avoids, he does avoid, it’s all I see of him.
I just do Not believe this is all coming out now as if not known before.
It’s too big never to have been known.
Why wasn’t something this big not investigated properly (unless of course there was an Election looming).
There more than meets the eye on this and I personally do Not believe Labour are as innocent in all this as they make out.
Bryant has clearly and consistently said that all parties and the entire political system has failed to act (that tends to include the Labour party)
He has been clear he has tried to influence Labour in this, but that he and others only achieved success in encouraging that action in the last few weeks.
You must be watching different news broadcasts and reading different newspapers and internet reports to me because Prescott, Milliband, Bryant, Watson and others have been very clear to accept that Labour need humility in this and have to accept some responsibility.
I suspect some of the public inquiry may show senior politicians in all parties may have known some of the issues in the press eg Coulson, etc etc
Equally, I think there will be evidence of police and others reassuring ministers that there had been no stone left unturned and there was no vast conspiracy. That was wrong.
So should Bryant have stayed silent?
How do you know it was only when Bryant chose to be available?
It is only you that has compared my point about Labour attitude in avoiding question as on the same par as Milly Dowler and her family.
A bit sick if you ask me but I have to ask… the fact you made such a conclusion says more about you as a person.
May I suggest you actually read comments before doing a Chris Bryant.
Cut the dose
In any case I wouldn’t be surprise if standing along side all this with Murdoch is the very sleazy Tony Blair.
It’s his style along with Mandelson.
As much as we disagree with each other often … on this specific set of issues I agree that Bryant has behaved with immense integrity and honour and suggestions to the contrary are politically motivated smears (and I dont support Labour!) that fail to recognise the seriousness (on a constitutional basis) of the issues
Stu youve finally come to your senses
Doesn’t mean I agree with you on everything … lol
Jock S Trap
The only ones avoiding questions on this have been News International and David Cameron
Kay Burley was clearly embarrassed by the request to apologise
You are clearly trying to make political capital on a matter that should be about standards and decency
“The only ones avoiding questions on this have been News International and David Cameron”
About a long list of horrendous errors that happened under Labour government, under Labour’s watch.
That failed to be investigated properly while Labour were in charge.
This is Their failings not the Tories, not the Lib Dems, Labours and it is them that should be held to account.
It’s not David Cameron who needs to answer questions it’s Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Peter Mandelson, Ed Miliband and the rest of the dodgy Labour lot.
What are they hiding?
I fully agree Blair, Brown, Mandelson and others in Labour need to answer questions
So do Cameron, Osborne, Hague and others
As do Brooks, Murdoch, Coulson, Morgan and others
Equally, those who have been targetted be they politicians or celebrities, ordinary people in distressing situations or whoever have a right to ask questions – and that includes Bryant.
What an absolute twat he is.
Regardless of which party he’s in, he was brave to have taken on NI when all the other MPs were too scared, and as Hugh Grant pointed on Question Time, he was then outed as gay by the press.
His questioning Sky News for not only not following up the story earlier, but also trashing him for pursuing the matter, seems fair enough given that Sky News’ independence from Murdoch’s companies is an important issue in the takeover game.
I’m sorry but he outed himself when he uploaded that photo of himself wearing nothing more than underwear! As for MPs being too scared to demand an apology I really don’t think that’s the case. MPs, on a daily basis, dispute media claims and demand apologies.
Don’t you think you’re being a little naive Jock?
You are misrepresenting my post. I was referring to his pursuing NI about the phone hacking being brave. And he did not out himself, having a profile on a dating site, if that’s what it was, is not the same as being outed in the national press as alleged vengeance for pursuing the phone hacking scandal.
I’m surprised at the nonsense that gets posted here once people get all frothy and party political, on both sides.
What part of Chris Bryant, an MP, a public figure, putting picture online of himself only wearing underpants on a Gay site did you not expect a newspaper to pick up on?
Chris Bryant outed himself by acting recklessly and there very little point in him or anyone else being bitter about it.
He could have made a better choice of pants!
As for other politicians bringing up media inaccuracies – yes indeed, as for dogged determination to prove endemic corruption and immorality – only Bryant and Watson have systematically done that
Jock, how did they find out he had a profile? Hacking?
Hacking? Why because people don’t go to Gaydar? Get real.
Why put those pics up if you don’t want them to be seen by millions of people around the world?
I’m guessing it wouldn’t take much, I’m guessing Gay people are journalists too with Gaydar accounts…
Hacking? No dear, it’s a Gay public arena, there for all to see.
Entirely possible. But if it’s true they spent 6 months looking for something on him to publish, isn’t it also possible they used a more established modus operandum, like hacking, rather than the off chance of a gay journalist spotting it and knowing who he was?
Possible Alf yeah but if your a public figure why hand them something, you must have known would be risky, on a plate.
They wouldn’t have had to look far would they?
He has always been out if you speak to his constituency colleagues they make that clear – now whether he broadcast it or not is a separate issue.
The gaydar is an error of judgement on his part – posting slightly compromising photos (although he has a decent body IMHO) in a public arena leaves you open to people seeing them – whether News International or others located them through hacking, maybe … maybe not …
Regardless, he is entitled to ask Burley for an apology
As we are entitled to ask Chris Bryant and the Labour Party for an apology for the mess they left behind including all this hacking scandal.
Thing is I very much doubt we’re ever get an apology, “Go fly” is probably the nearest response so do I have sympathy for Bryant? No, I don’t.
Maybe he can expect apologise when they aplogise to us all.
He isnt asking you to apologise ….
Maybe Bryant should drop the pity act then.
He is not in a position to ask anyone for an apology if they can’t do it themselves.
If I thought you owed me an apology (which by the way I dont) then that would not mean you were unable to seek an apology from someone else (whether for a related issue or not) even if you had not apologised to me. Why should Bryant be any different?
Last time I checked there were no rules of etiquette that said an apology can only be sought by a person provided they themselves have made all the apologies they are perceived as being required to make.
Jock owes everyone an apology for being so obsessively Tory
Being that my voting record is traditionally Lib Dems, your comment makes no sense.
One time voter of the Tories last year.
Am I going to apologise for that? There’s more chance of the Sun becoming inhabitable.
Oh and not not the newspaper.
It has taken so long for Sky News to even cover this story – obviously it wasn’t noos-wurthy enough… and to hear that Burley couldn’t bring herself to apologise for the past exchange is unforgiveable and hypocritical. Bring death to News International, now – maybe then you’ll apologise for your crooked reporting. Also, if you don’t know why this country is in deep doo-doo (and to short-sightedly blame Labour government for it) tells me that England can’t see past Cameron’s smoodge-chin *shocked*
Well she seemed suitably embarrassed at least. As for the politicians, they were virtually all of them either afraid of or in awe of the evil empire, which has been bad news for democracy.
And Cameron isn’t so squeaky clean with his shadowy relationship with Andrew Coulson either. There’s enough mud slinging to go around. Hypocritical of Cameron to be now lambasting NoW et al when he was consorting with one of it’s principal offenders. Obviously, there are serious issues with the vetting system. Either way, sleaze of the worst kind.
Well said, Robert
Newscorp have just withdrawn their bid for BSkyB. By the way I read recently that BSkyB were trying to take over Virgin media, the cable company, too. I wonder what the status of that is. We could have had a situation where Murdoch controlled almost everything. Perhaps we need the politicians to legislate to prevent this happening in future, I gather other countries, even America, have far more protections in place than we do.
And so is Ed Miliband with Tom Baldwin, difference is Andy Coulson doesn’t work for David Cameron any more.
The same cannot be said for Tom Baldwin and Ed Miliband.
I dont know the facts of either but I would argue Camerons claim that this should be seen to be above party politics (which has seemed to be Bryants approach!) is not how Lord Ashcroft seems to perceive it.
Ah, classic case of double standards. Typical.
You can argue Lord Ashcroft is also double standards …..
Can you two get a room?
You payin Arfur?
Nice retort! Depends on the room lol
Indeed Stu – It’s got to be a room good enough to keep me to the luxury I live by and deserve.
Don’t do cheap.
Damien McBride?? Ed Miliband was at a party with the murdochs only three weeks ago he’s hardly in a position to be the negotiator. And when sleaze and politics are said one person comes to mind, and thats milibands right hand my ed balls.
You can say all you like about McBride and Balls and I would probably agree
Does that incriminate Bryant? No
Does that give a reason why Bryant should not be permitted to seek an apology? No
Oh I’m sorry I thought Bryant was part of the last Labour government… Oh no, wait, he was.
Does he deserve an apology? No
Do we? Yes!
Maybe then I’ll rethink his right to one.
Next you will be telling me that Brown ran a cabinet government …
What was Bryants role – oh yes, Minister for Europe (not a Secretary of State or part of the core decision making group) …
Did he try to use his influence, Bryant, Brown and Milliband all say he did …
Should an apology depend on an apology? I think not. If it does the apology that its dependent on is arguably insincere
Lol, some of the people whose comments I respected on this website just end up making themselves look like nipples when they discuss politics. Best to stick to the subject in hand, no?
Kay Burley is a silly, silly woman who suffers from foot in mouth disease. I really don’t believe she thinks her comments through prior to opening her mouth.
Can’t imagine Bryant really expected her to offer an apology though, just another opportunity to make her look like a chump.
She look really depressed on the news today, either she had seen this column, or she saw her chances of being anchor on Fox News UK evaporating as the day progressed.
Burley is like the appalling ‘journalists’ they have on Fox ‘News’ in the States – another Murdoch operation.
Have a look on You Tube, there’s plenty of examples of them shouting down interviewees, belittling them and generally acting like boorish playground bullies if someone says something they don’t agree with.
When she said she didn’t think people would be interested in her views a bolt of lightening should have struck her cos the lie was so big.
She’s a huge ego supported by minimal talent.
Thankfully the Murdoch BSkyB bid seems to have derailed, otherwise we’d be heading for more people WORSE than Burley being the faces of a ‘Foxified’ British TV and that would be a disaster.
Absolutely. We have some quality journalists (print and broadcast) in the UK and Burley is not one of them
Absolutely, partisan news would give us a polarised society like America, with rich Murdoch types with even more power over us.
Exactly right Nick. And to think there are some on here who are having a go at a gay MP instead of commenting on a vile reporter. Sad.
Oh, I’m sorry I thought this was about Chris Bryant too… Oh wait…it is apparently.
Just because the BBC and C4 reporter are Labour’s version of stepford wives, sucking up to these people doesn’t mean all appreicate that.
I personally prefer an MP to be challenged and held to account it’s why they are there it way we vote for them.
If you enter politics thinking it’s an easy ride then, I’m afraid your setting yourself up for a huge disappointment and a possible career change.
No matter what party we vote for them and as such we are perfectly entitled to see what we vote for is ‘paying up’ with their actions.
If your standard of holding to account is either burley or to refuse to apologise if the journalist has acted wrongly then I don’t think much of those standards – you’re usually better than that
LOL. Strappy, you can be such a jerk. Too funny.
Not adding anything again I see, no surprise there then.
WOW!!!!!,I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE PERSON THAT WROTE THIS ARTICLE STILL HAS A JOB,MISPLACED WORDS,MISSPELLED WORDS,AND WRONG PUNCTUATION.GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND LEARN PROPER EDITING.