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  1. With an Income of £15million pound Income for 2010 , the MIldmay is not funded by the LSCG which spent about £6m on inpatient care in London for 2010 . I am advised by the LSCG that they don’t fund the Mildmay and maybe this resource could be managed to provide home care provision instead?

    1. I have a simpler solution:
      keep your pants on

      1. Dan Filson 9 Jul 2011, 11:45pm

        Fatuous comment in the context of the treatment of seriously-ill people who may have acquired HIV in a variety of ways.

        1. It is not, it is a simple solution. The overwhelming majority of HIV infection is by sexual intercourse, usually with somebody that is promiscuous.
          If guys are able to show some restrain and discipline they wouldn’t be seriously ill. You are making them look like they are victims, they are not. Nobody pointed a gun to them and forced them to have sex with a complete stranger they met online or on grnder. Unless if you are raped, but that is extremely rare in this case. So don’t go after me for being honest about this.

          1. Infection route and ethnicity

            In 2009, 51% (32,214) of persons living with diagnosed HIV where route of exposure were reported were men and women infected via heterosexual sex (11,889 and 20,325 respectively) and 43% (27,427) were men infected through sex between men. A small proportion were infected through injecting drug use (2%, 1,547) or mother-to-child transmission (2%, 1,372).
            In 2009, just over half (52%, 33,451) of persons accessing HIV-related care where ethnicity was reported were white, the majority of whom were infected through sex between men (74%, 23,958). Over one-third of persons (36%, 23,288) seen for care were black-African, the majority of these individuals (93%, 21,251) were infected through heterosexual sex.

            Figure 1: Diagnosed HIV-infected individuals seen for care by prevention group and ethnic group, UK (PDF, 83 KB)

            Figure 2: HIV-infected individuals seen for care by ethnicity, UK: 2000 and 2009 (PDF, 94 KB)

          2. Even the more reason why you should not be promiscuous.
            Just keep your pants on, if you cannot stop thinking about screwing around, pick up a hobby, do something that is more productive, and stay out of trouble.

          3. Lets pray to god to kill the queers, they’re all diseased paedophiles… that is the next “logical” statement to come out of your mouth. You are one fcuked up ape, Pepa.

          4. Jock S. Trap 12 Jul 2011, 5:22pm

            pepa – are you telling straight Africans the same?

            Or just reserving your bigotry for homophobia?

      2. Jock S. Trap 12 Jul 2011, 5:21pm

        Yet another pointless comment pepa.

  2. … then comes Mr Chop Chop and snaps up the monies from the home care provisioner instead. Voila. The Tories will find a way to steal this resource and transfer it to their own pockets and to the bankers. ..

    1. Jock S. Trap 12 Jul 2011, 5:22pm

      Yawn – predictable as ever Beberts.

      Are you and pepa related?

  3. Other than the National AIDS Trust did this information come out into the public domain, a FOI request through the ASG listed for London how these monies were being spent. It is of interest that of the 92,000 people living with HIV in the UK about 8,500 people claim DLA, 800 AA and about 110 are on ILF. It seems that the choice of meeting criteria and when support is given is made by others without full consideration and Given so much is resourced in London £241million better service delivery, outcomes and support could be achieved.

    1. Dan Filson 9 Jul 2011, 11:49pm

      Is the difference between 92,000 and 9,410 primarily because people haven’t claimed out of choice or no need to, or because they did claim but were refused, or because they did not know they could claim and given their state of health would have been entitled to do so? Without knowing more facts it is difficult to know what inferences or conclusions to draw from this informaiton.

      1. 40% of people with HIV are suggest to be jobless which would suggest a figure of 36,800. It is suggested about 1 in 5 are over 50 and

        The figures obtained from the DWP lists the primary main disbaling condition, we don’t know the exact number of people who have applied and been refused for various resons. A ratio of about 1 in 10 are in receipt of DLA/AA/ILF. DLA is for under 65, AA over 65 and ILF is when HIgh Care, Social Service £320pw of care is provided then top up by the ILF. The ILF support about 20,500 (March 2011 of all conditions) in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland also provide support by Direct Payments.

  4. You might of use the information and anaylsis collected and shows the UK Supporting people, Direct Payments, Carers and the LGBT funding.

    If the mildmay only now has 7 beds x 52 weeks = 364 people if stayed 1 week only at a cost of £? per person. 28,000 people reisde with HIV/AIDS in London. If 1 in 5 people are to be high treatment of the 92,000 would mean 18,400 people are affected, why then is not the service level by Mildmay and the NHS higher?

  5. What a bloody liberty! I stayed at The Mildmay way back in the mid-90s & have nothing but high praise for the whole experience.This threat of reduced funding/possible closure simply MUST be addressed immediately!

    1. I also spent time there for cognitive rehabilitation after suffering severe HIV encephalopathy.

      I discharged myself after two weeks, during which time the sheets on my bed where not changed once, they repeatedly screwed up meds, they failed to follow the scrict psyiotheraphy regime that they had been provided by the hospital resulting in me being confined to my bed for three days. Most importantly I received not one single minute of congnitive rehabilitation.

      I subsequently found out that the hospital that referred me had ceased doing so because of the standard of care provided to patients.

      At the time I was suffering from significant impairment of both cognitive and motor functions and was in dire need of support, which the hospital utterly failed to provide. I’ve long thought the should have been forced to close.

  6. ”HIV remains a complex illiness” yet it is a syndrome or lab marker. Why after 28 years, is it that all the orthodoxy has in the way of prevention is a lackluster woman’s vaginal gel and giving a toxic prophylactic anti-HIV chemical compound, targeted at sexually active HIV negative gay men? Cui bono? Watch the documentary House of Numbers on Youtube. Is ”HIV” the cause of ”AIDS”?

    1. Ricci, you’re an idiot.

      If you really believe that the whole medical world has colluded in HIV and AIDS, you’re a fool.

      This film has been totally discredited scientifically.

    2. Spanner1960 9 Jul 2011, 7:28pm

      Might this be our pal Rich under another pseudonym / IP having been banned yet again?

  7. Jock S. Trap 12 Jul 2011, 5:20pm

    To be honest the place looks so run down I thought it was already closed.

    This clinic is much needed. It provides a service which some desperately need.

    To close would be a mistake.

  8. House of Lords Publication on HIV/AIDS in the UK, refer

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