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Comment: One year on from gay asylum ruling, have things changed?

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  1. Spanner1960 6 Jul 2011, 6:31pm

    There are two factors to consider here.
    The first is that people actually distinguish between genuine asylum seekers who fear for their lives and have been forced to relocate, and economic migrants who fake their way into the country under false pretences, be the fact they are gay or not.

    The second factor is, simply “Why should we?” This may sound harsh, but we are awash with immigrants, are suffering massive debts and economic depression and barely have the infrastructure to support our own people without taking on every charity case that comes knocking on our door.

    We are not the world’s social workers, but immigrants will blag their way across as as many as a dozen countries to get to our shores. It’s about time we returned them from the country they embarked from, and let them send them back on again, so we give them to the French, the French to the Italians, the Italians to the Greeks etc.

    I fully understand the plight these people are in, but frankly, it’s not our problem.

    1. Bankers cost more than asylum seekers
      Philip Green tax evasions costs more than asylum seekers
      Vodafone tax exempton of £6bn cost more than asylum seekers
      Google tax aviodance cost more than asylum seekers

      Perhaps you should point your bile in their direction first

      1. Spanner1960 7 Jul 2011, 3:40pm

        Utter bull. Please define “Costs”
        How about the costs to process, administer, house and feed these people whilst their fate is being decided. And once they are here, the income support, housing, council tax, healthcare, legal support, education for children that probably don’t speak English. Google isn’t even a British company, so please stop spouting crap. That said, you want tax avoidance? Look no further than your own socialist rag, The Guardian.

        1. You idiot.

          google have a UK office and divert their income to ireland and pay nothing on their uk revenue. Immigrants pay taxes too you know you big sack of crap

        2. Sister Mary Clarence 8 Jul 2011, 5:02am

          “How about the costs to process, administer, house and feed these people whilst their fate is being decided”

          A fraction of the cost of doing the same for a British born person who would rather spend their life living off taxes rather than get off their backside and work.

          The obviously solution to this anyway is to either make the immigration process much quicker, so we identify the genuine cases quicker and return the non-genuine ones home, or in the event that things need to take longer, permit anyone with a decision pending to work.

          Immigrants generally are far happy to work in jobs where their weekly pay is less that the comprehensive state handouts package that our own born and bred won’t go near, so its not as if anyone would be stealing a job from anyone else.

          We would therefore solve the problem for having unproductive asylum seekers draining resources, and then it would just be the native British layabouts that would need a kick up the @rse

    1. type in asylum into search box

  2. George Ybarra 6 Jul 2011, 8:37pm

    This is terrible that we are forced to flee persucution and many Gay people have simiular stories…it saddens me greatly

  3. Spanner! you truely are a spanner. I worked with a young gay man recently who was fleeing from Iran. He lost all his family, his friends, they killed his long term partner and he had part of his head concaved through a brutal attack. No -one chooses to travel across many countries, some dying on the way just for a bloody jolly. There are less asylum seekers than the daily mail would allow you to believe We should offer protection as what we consider economic crisis is not the same as extreme poverty. I work with homeless community in a large city so I’m aware of the problems people in the uk face. I know the homeless people I work with would share there last bit of food with the man I told you about because they understand what it is to suffer and know one should have to suffer especially just because they are capable of love!

    1. I think spanner is saying no to immigrants who are after money as opposed to ayslum
      what happened to the guy from Iran was terrible

      1. Spanner is saying no to immigrants with brown skin

        1. Spanner1960 7 Jul 2011, 3:48pm

          James!: And you are just a mouthy little socialist c*nt.

          1. great comeback you didn’t even deny it. Now if only you’d admit it

    2. Spanner1960 7 Jul 2011, 3:47pm

      Quote: “People [need to] actually distinguish between genuine asylum seekers who fear for their lives and have been forced to relocate, and economic migrants who fake their way into the country under false pretences.”
      .
      I am sure there are situations such as the ones you mention that are deserving cases, but equally for every genuine one, I am sure there are many more fakes that simply come here to ponce off us. Take the so-called Nigerian “Lesbian” that tried it on recently; everyone here was on her case, but I for one saw right through her facade and she was caught out and duly deported.
      .
      Just because somebody claims to be gay, and even if they are, does not necessarily entitle them to British citizenship and a council house. I am all for helping those that genuinely need it, but I see no reason why we need to take on all the worlds waifs and strays that show up on our doorstep.

      1. Only an idiot would say “i’m sure” why don’t yopu stick to facts rather than you’re immature opinions

  4. I do know a lesbian from Jamaica who’s been given leave to remain in the last 12 months because of these changes

  5. To force those in fear of their lives back to these hell holes where they will be persecuted and killed to me makes us and our legal system no better than those that pull the trigger or place the blade.

  6. Jock S. Trap 7 Jul 2011, 8:51am

    I appreciate this job cannot be easy but the government must get to grips with this problem and as it wants to be seen as a leader should act like one too.

    I think that a year is plenty of time to consider the rules and change appropiately and sensitively.

  7. It would be interesting to know how this compares to other types of asylum seekers and how many of those rely on going to court as well….I live in Australia and all asylum seekers appear to be treated badly ….I think Spanner’s attitude is quite norm amongst lots of people over here.. are they genuiune ones or not…. Australia is a wealthy country with lots of space but all parties over here seem to think they have to be tough on asylum seekers, it sounds like the UK is as well….

    1. The irony considering australia is on stolen land

      1. Spanner1960 7 Jul 2011, 3:50pm

        By your standard, all land is “stolen”.
        One could say the same for virtually any country.

  8. Piper Peter 7 Jul 2011, 3:34pm

    Saturate your MP with letters and emails about this injustice

  9. That is right we should have the right to live openly and freely in America but we don’t, not everywhere yet and we have the hateful and insane Christians for that.

  10. paul canning 7 Jul 2011, 9:52pm

    If people are interested I have a published a longer version of this article with links to sources here.

  11. please send food; your princess looks skinny and hungry! we can no longer afford the expense of royalty. luv canada

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