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  1. Apparently the equal civil marriage consultation set up by the Tories is due to start in July …tomorrow….yeah right!….with marriage equality with us by 2015 say the lib dems….yeah right!….

    At least Stonewall (finally!!!) seem to be kick starting the govt by issuing their own mock verision of the consultation document/questionnaire…..

    1. Jock S. Trap 30 Jun 2011, 4:17pm

      So prehaps you’d rather they just not bother them? Keep you happy an all…

      Honestly, I don’t care where it comes from so long as it’s a topic on the menu and it progresses.

      1. “city of New York has now made a clear blow for equality ….with its passage of the same-sex marriage policy” ….no it’s the state of NY not the city, it’s the state govt that has the power to do this not the city…I find it arrogant and misleading to compare the achievements of a state govt to what he and his city can achieve in getting anywhere near it…it’s the govt that has the power in the UK…it’s sas though he is saying vote me and I’ll do what NY has done, but actually there’s no way he could possbly do that…the achievement of NY was by the state and its legislative powers..

        1. Patrick Lilley 30 Jun 2011, 11:56pm

          Ken Livingstone introduced the first civil partnership in the UK leading ahead of the the UK government and setting a standard forcing equality onto the agenda. At the time he was pilloried… Ken is a forceful character and long term ally of the LGBT community. We as a community with many facets would benefit from his re-election. So less splitting hairs please john. Are you in favour of Boris’ “passive” approach to combatting bullying in schools, homophobic assaults etc?

          1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 2:59am

            Well said, Patrick! :o)
            And actually London is HUGELY powerful in terms of what it (and now what its Mayor) can do.
            Like Patrick above, I don’t find what Ken Livingston has to say in the least bit ‘arrogant’.
            The GLC and latterly the London GLA have been enormously influential in terms of the Gay Rights agenda in the UK. Much of that bravery over the past 30 years or so has been under the leadership of Ken Livingston.
            Something tells me you’re not a UK citizen – am I right?

            You can see Ken Livingston’s article – and particularly the last bit labelled ‘ Building on my Record’ from this link:

          2. Patrick …If I thought Ken could get us marriage equality then I’d vote for him but I actually think it has to be the UK govt and at the moment that is the lib dem/tories…….Yes, London is influential and I hope if Ken doesn’t make it then every other single Labour councillor and MP do their bit and stop telling me that CPs are good enough and if they are gay themselves that is what they want and they aren’t interested in the rest of the LGBT community…

          3. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 4:45pm

            Personally I think its daft to decide to vote on a Mayoral candidate simply on whether they can or cannot deliver you on one subject: ‘Gay Marriage’.
            The only reason I support the call for Marriage equality is simply one of Equality – while it is perfectly right that everyone should have equal access to institutions regardless of their personal circumstances, I personally see no real working difference between Civil Partnerships and ‘Marriage’.
            You’re also missing the point with regard to how influential the London Mayor can be in terms of changing public opinion and taking the high-road in terms of policies which latterly turn the tide on a national level.

          4. I’ll be voting for Boris once again. Ken is a nasty and spiteful little man who feels the need to insult on a daily basis.

            Vote Boris.

  2. Black Hawk Down 30 Jun 2011, 3:26pm

    You have my vote Ken

    1. Corrupt Ken spent more on champagne than anything else and had a massive list of expenses.
      Boris is doing a brilliant job and actually cares for London, while Ken just wants the job for the money.

      1. Mumbo Jumbo 30 Jun 2011, 8:00pm

        During 2007/8, his last year in office, the GLA spent £2.5 billion on policing. Are you suggesting Mr Livingstone spent more than that on champagne? If so, please send your “evidence” to the NAO who will give it the consideration it deserves.

      2. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:01am

        lol Wants it for the money?
        What on EARTH are you talking about? Do you really think the man would have gone thru hell and high water with the ridiculously stupid Labour Party back when the GLA was starting up simply so he could drink champagne? lol
        It would have been cheaper for him to get it in Tescos!

        1. Ken is just a leech for whoever has money, he cares so much for gay people he worked for an iraq tv station.

          1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 4:49pm

            I think you’re confusing someone’s need for an income with them changing their political persuasion due to corruption by said money.
            If he had been swayed by working for an Iraqi TV company then he wouldnt have written that article the other day would he? He’s still very firmly behind LGBTQ rights and always has been.
            The point here is twofold:
            1) that there is nothing inherently ‘bad’ about appearing on a TV station in Iraq (which begs the question: why do you think it should be?)
            and 2) what makes you think that someone who is politically supportive of LGBTQ rights should not be able to choose which country they work in?
            Something aint right with that….

  3. Ken Livingstone has NEVER apologised for inviting and welcoming a genocidally homophobic islamic extremist Yusuf Al Qaradawi to London, Nor has he vowed to never repeat this foul insult.

    Any LGBT person who votes for Ken Livingstone is very foolish.

    Thanks to his support of a homophobic maniac like AlQaradawi Livingstone’s previous reputation on LGBT issues has been massively tarnished.

    Ken Livingstone has said that he must welcome representatives of all major religions.

    Fair enough.

    But when said religious leader advocates the slaughter of LGBT people, then it seriously calls into question Livingstone’s commitment to equality.

    I am disappointed that Pink News is giving a platform to Ken Livingstone when the spectre of AlQaradawi is still hanging in the air like a bad smell around him.

    1. Precisely my thoughts as soon as I saw this headline…

    2. I agree and I’m not a big fan of Ken anymore because of what you pointed out, but don’t forget Boris Johnson compared gay marriages to beastiality.

      1. Jock S. Trap 30 Jun 2011, 4:28pm

        Actually eddy two Boris has publically supported marriage Equality!

        1. @Jock S Trap

          I didnt hear Boris’s explanation of how he explained his change in views from seeing gay relationships as similar to bestiality with his stated view that there should be equal marriage ….

          I guess that would be a difficult one to explain.

          1. I think what is important is that his view has changed.

            Now he has actually got some cloud its all the better that his view has changed.

            I would have though that would be something to celebrate rather than dissect.

      2. I have a friend that used to be extremely homophobic but is now very supportive of homosexuality and despises homophobia. People can change. Stop holding onto the past. Boris supports same sex marriage. What more do you want?

    3. I think his original intention was good, in that he wanted a debate on the hijab (I think) and wanted to bring together prominent speakers – after all, there’s not going to be much of a debate if you put together a group of like-minded people, is there? But when it became clearer what a nutter al-Qaradawi is, he’d have done better to backtrack firmly.

    4. And don’t forget livingstone’s unconditional support for tower hamlets mayor and his homophobic links or his enthusiasm to work for a dubious cable channel associated with extremism for a unofficial salary. I’d rather take my chances with boris than that snake livingstone.

    5. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:06am

      This is ill informed inflammatory nonsense and precisely the kind of criticism that the tabloid press meted out to Ken Livingston back in the 80s when he led talks with the IRA.
      Talking to people does not imply acceptance of what they stand for AT ALL. It is only thru dialogue that these things change – there IS NO OTHER WAY to bring about positive change other than a concerted and collaborative effort from all sides. Dialogue opens up that possibility.
      The only bad smell I detect here is the pungent whiff of reactionary mis-information and dis-information.

      1. Sister Mary Clarence 2 Jul 2011, 12:00am

        Jesus, he supports the IRA as well?

        Even more reason not to support him.

        I don’t know how you could suggest opening a dialogue with the IRA quite frankly.

        1. Vote boris.

          Vote ken and he’ll only try and charge us once again for driving in our own god damn city.

          He’s a nasty piece of work irrespective of whether or not he supports marriage equality. He could support marriage equality until the cows come home, he still won’t be getting my vote.

  4. “we have seen a series of steps in the wrong direction: the early cutting of funding for Soho Pride; downgrading LGBT London with the cancellation of the Mayor’s annual Pride reception; and the withdrawal of the Greater London Authority from the Stonewall Equality Index.”

    Possibly because he understands that Londoners can no longer afford the year on year council tax hikes that Ken seemed oblivious too.

    There are cuts everywhere and its only the really stupid amongst the gay community that do not understand that we’re not immune to them.

    1. His point was that the cuts to LGBT services are disproportionate, not just that cuts have been made.

      1. I’d like to see him prove that point then. He could never get his figures right when he was in office (twice) and it was always at our expense), so I have to say I’m skeptical that he is any better now.

        No one likes having services cut and if Ken and his Labour cronies hadn’t let us in such a mess (again) Boris & Co would be cutting far less.

        1. Patrick Lilley 1 Jul 2011, 12:08am

          @ Jose – Check you facts the London budget of the Mayor was actually very well run by Ken – he even desribed himself as a monetarist in a recent interview! You have bought a lot of propaganda from the Tories I suppose – for intstance the Hutton report on pensions that Cameron says is going bust – in that report NOBODY says the public sector pension pot is going bust. Its a lie. What Cameron wants is for public sector pensions to be lower ie like private ones so that private companies are more likely to take over public services ie privatise them. Each party has priorities and the Tories pre banking crisis (not caused by teachers, nurses etc nor by Labour) were not calling for any cuts in fact they agreed with Labour spending plans!

          1. @ Patrick – Check YOUR facts!

            You talk of propaganda from the tories and hope nobody notices your own propaganda in support of Labour.

            Ken was investigated, his funding decisions were investigated, his aides were investigated, hundreds and thousands of pounds which was dished out to so called community projects was never found nor did the projects ever amount to much.

            Ken is a nasty and spiteful little man – Vote Boris!

    2. Jock S. Trap 30 Jun 2011, 4:27pm

      Indeed on thing with Boris is that his portion of the Council Tax hasn’t risen since he became Mayor unlike Ken’s hike.
      Ken attacks Boris’s fare rises but under Ken they were just as bad AND we had his council Tax hikes too!

      1. Exactly Jock, absolutely spot on.

        Boris has also been in the paper a lot less than Ken was for attacking and slandering people..

    3. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:12am

      What you mean ‘immune to cuts’?
      The only cuts that take place are those being decided upon by politicians.
      If they just raised the taxes they charge the Banks who were bailed out we wouldn’t even be in this mess in the first place.

      (They could easily raise enough money from them to cover the same amount – instead they have chosen to cut services and support from the most vulnerable in society and from services which are likely to never recover from the loss of expertise that these cuts will have on their staff resources.)
      This is NOT the only solution – it is however, the only solution that the conservative led Government has CHOSEN

  5. Charles Gormley 30 Jun 2011, 3:44pm

    I don’t think you can compare the situation in NYC to the UK. It is apples and oranges. THe reason for civic action in new york, and across the US is because the voters are demanding it in ever increasing numbers. But largely, they are demanding things we already have in the UK (Marriage, being the exception). THere is no mass movement in the UK to push for more change, because, rightly or wrongly, as a community, we don’t feel there is much left to achieve. You rarely hear of UK politicians discuss our community in the same way as the US politicians discuss the gay community there, and when they do, they are condemned, censured and often sacked. Homophobia is not a vote winner in the UK. In parts of the US, it is. The pride marches of today are celebratory rather than marches for change. There is a movement towards marriage where, frankly, the government will have to justify NOT approving it, rather than justify approving it. What more does Ken want?

  6. ooer missus 30 Jun 2011, 3:44pm

    While I haven’t decided which party to vote for, I will always be grateful to Ken for standing up for us when it was a very unpopular thing to do, and for which he was always slated in the press, especially the Evening Standard, who even sent a fake lesbian, complete with long cigarette holder (a la 1930s stereotype), to spy on our gay drama group.

    So Ken, thanks again, but please stop supporting homophobic preachers.

    1. His support of genocidally homophobic preachers pretty much cancels out his previous efforts on behalf of the LGBT community I think.

      It displayed his disregard for our safety and security.

    2. He stood up for us because we were a large chunk is disaffected voters – don’t kid yourself he cared whether we lived or died really

      1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:16am

        This is complete crap!

        Ken Livingston has been standing up for LGBT rights ever since the days of the GLC. And back then there is no way that Gay Rights were perceived as a ‘vote winner’.
        I find your high-handed ignorance deeply disturbing. Not least because you are giving people wrong information.

        1. Sister Mary Clarence 2 Jul 2011, 12:02am

          Staircase – intentionally stupid or are you taking the p1ss?

          Livingstone has made a living out of appealing to disaffected minorities to screw every last vote out of them he could

          Denying it doesn’t make it any less true

          1. Jock S. Trap 2 Jul 2011, 9:21am

            Here! Here!! Sister Mary C!

  7. To be honest, I wasn’t sad to see the cuts to Soho Pride which nothing more than a gloryfied pissed orgniased by the bar to make money. I don’t see why that should get any public money.

    Same goes for the Stonewall listing. It’s just a clever fundraising activity for Stonewall. As long as they didn’t start discriminating against their employees when the left the list, I have no problem with that.

    The Pride reception was an important symbolic gesture and I think that should have been kept but in the grand scheme of things it’s not much of a step back.

    It is true however that there doesn’t seem to be many steps forward. and that’s something to be regretted.

  8. argh! *note to self: proofread before posting!*

    1. ‘glorified’!

  9. That first sentence again: “To be honest, I wasn’t sad to see the cuts to Soho Pride which is nothing more than a gloryfied piss-up organised by the bars to make money.”

  10. Jock S. Trap 30 Jun 2011, 4:11pm

    What a bloody hypocrite.
    Guess it suits when he wants votes but does he still defend Yusuf al-Qaradawi?
    Will Azzam Tamimi get his Muslims4Ken campaign again?

    Say what you like about Boris but he defends Londoners.

    No matter is your Black, White, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Straight, Christian, Muslim etc, your a Londoner and treated as such.

    Ken is too devisive.
    Ken protects those who wish us death and punishment.

    I’ve come to see Ken Livingstone as dirty, corrupt words of someone I’ll never trust.

    What Boris does he does for London, Ken does for his ego.

    Therefore I will be voting Boris next May.

    1. Jock S. Trap 30 Jun 2011, 4:15pm

      Lets not also forget who he broke ranks with the Labour Party to support as Mayor of Tower Hamlets.
      Lets not forget it wasn’t until recently that he was forced to stop working for Iran TV.
      The man will not change.
      I’m sure most won’t have forgotten…

      1. Indeed.

        Ken broke Labour party rules on campaigning for other candidates other than Labour. Ken supported the current mayor of Tower Hamlets with links to a homophobic European Muslim group. Ken speaks about homophobia in the article but not heard a thing about the homophobia in Tower Hamlets, the council chamber and East London Mosque. Absolutely silent on this.

        As you point out Jock, Ken worked for Iranian TV. The Iranian government executes homosexuals and forces many to undertake sex changes.

        Ken likes to see gay people as one inclusive group he can try and win around at election time promising to reinstate a piss up with tax payers cash (Soho Pride). We’re all different and I don’t think many of us want council tax to be spent on Soho Pride, especially when we already have London Pride.

        Ken is very divisive and incredible two faced.

        1. Ken paid for the respect anti racist event in findsbury park. It was the most anti gay event ive been to. A radio station played a song about burning gay people to death

      2. yes, i agree, i mentioned it earlier but i forgot to add that he’s also a fare dodger on extortionately priced public transport which he envisaged.

      3. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 4:51pm

        One of you says Iraq and the other says Iran – which is it?

    2. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:18am

      I cant believe you wrote that: “Ken protects those who wish us death and punishment.”
      Its shocking that you would write something so slanderous.
      I’ve reported it

      1. Jock S. Trap 1 Jul 2011, 8:36am

        Good for you, nothing like stopping someone from Freedom of Speech and opinions.
        Nothing like trying to hide the fact Ken supports and defends Extemist Preachers who call for us to be murdered.

        No those we must forget eh, Staircase2.

        What up? Reality not you strong point to deal with?
        If Ken invites these madmen what do you expect? A round of applause from the LGBTQ community?

        1. staircase is like the PN snitch , he’s always reporting something truthful , guess he finds truth offensive.

          1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 4:57pm

            No – I find lies peddled as ‘truth’ offensive. DEEPLY offensive.
            And re Jock – I don’t for a second buy the idea that Ken Livingston has suddenly dropped all of his many years of hard work for LGBTQ Rights just because the tabloid press talk about him talking to people.
            As I said before: thats exactly the same kind of ill-informed nonsense that The Sun newspaper/News of The World tried to smear him and the GLC with back in the 80s when they ‘discovered’ that ‘he’ (ie the GLC) had been talking with the IRA (ie ‘Terrorists!’)
            If you want to believe the Murdoch created lies about the man that’s fine – but don’t expect me to sit back and do nothing while you dish out dis-information and mis-information as if its the truth.

          2. Jock S. Trap 2 Jul 2011, 9:27am

            What absolute tripe!!

            Why do we need to be told these things when most of us have lived in London all our lives and have actual been witnesses to it.

            You may want to play dumb and be continuously told what to say, what to do and clearly most importantly what to forget but the rest of us remember.
            We were there and sadly for you, Ken and Murdoch it seems, remember the Facts, Very well.

            You continue to make excuses for Ken which reads to me your just as guilty in your denial.

          3. Jock S. Trap 3 Jul 2011, 11:26am

            Guess it proves what they say… Truth hurts!!

  11. Ken Livingstone believes that an extremists right to express hate-speech is more important than LGBT human rights.

    Vote for him at your peril.

    1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:23am

      Not at all!

      I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at the enormous amount of ill-informed vitriol from so many contributors on here given that you are generally always this knee-jerk and reactionary on every other subject too. But I cant help but be shocked by the level of anti-Ken propaganda which is going on on here – which is clearly politically motivated.
      I am however angry at the sheer level of unsubstantiated and potentially libellous bollocks you re all trying to peddle as the truth.

      1. Jock S. Trap 1 Jul 2011, 8:40am

        Actually Staircase2, it’s more than we’re not blinded by Ken.

        If I’m truely honest, I’m going to be blunt in says that I also think Ken is now too old to be Mayor.
        We need fresh younger, less controversial and more supportive of Our rights, not sucking up to extremists, talent.

        Ken has been in, had his chance and I hope people see sense and Never forget this reality you are so freely and ignorantly blinded by.

        1. I have to agree. We do need a change – we can’t afford to have the politics of London become stale with the same people in and out of power. Someone else needs to take a chance.

          Also, Staircase2 – people are entitled to their opinions. They may not agree with you but bulldozing anything that goes against you isn’t the best way of debating.

          I understand that politics is about give and take. It’s about appeasing all sides and as much as we dislike what certain politicians do at times we have to take into account that politicans are there to try and please as many people as much of the time as possible. It’s how they win office after all.

          His record on LGBT rights is very good. He was a powerhouse in the 80’s who helped assisted the gay rights movement in many ways and for that we do have a lot to be thankful for.

          1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 5:08pm

            @Mendirin: Sorry – I don’t see how that contradicts what I’ve been saying…
            Of COURSE people are entitled to their opinions – and if they’re going to be putting up untrue opinion on a public forum and claiming its fact then they have to expect that people will challenge it.
            Re-read everything I’ve said – I’m not sure that you have.
            (and btw re ‘change’ – change happens all the time anyway – I see nothing wrong with Ken Livingston being the next Mayor if he’s the best person for the job )
            Talking about his ‘age’ is just ageist nonsense – like so much else being spouted on here….
            What we ‘need’ is GOOD innovative ideas to solve the problems we are faced with – age has nothing to do with the delivery of those.
            Ken’s record speaks for itself.
            In my experience the people who don’t like Ken Livingston have always tended to be Sun reading, reactionary bigots…(and I’m not seeing anything on this comments board to suggest otherwise….)

          2. Jock S. Trap 2 Jul 2011, 9:34am

            Ken is past it.

            He’s had his day and he should have taken the hint and retired gracefully but hey ho not Kens style.

            He will now always be a ‘has been’, defender of the extremists, a drain on resources and I just hope Boris gets another term and that Ken will crawl back into the hole he came from, finally getting the message.

  12. So this is the best Ken can write? “Nasty Tories withdrawing money from a piss-up (Soho Pride)”? Nothing in it about him and his anti-gay Islamic chums? Hmm, I wonder why?

    Sorry, Ken Livingstone, we remember you running London like some South American dictatorship and don’t want you back!

    1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 3:24am

      …He didn’t
      …And I do!

  13. For the families civil rights and human rights and equal rights , you had better make sure that london checks the background on any and all candidates running if they signed off before this election on these key issue , you better find out and not guess on what they are for there is a gay woman in london running for mayor earlier this year as a candidate she should be the one who all london should elect and there was another woman who had made promises that she would insure the equal right of lbgt community and families as mayor they are your candidates to elect, they can and will also be concerned about other importantant iniatives for fairness and for the city of london, vote for those women, and vote for the gay man that is running for president down in london or a gay woman running for president and make sure they are democrats

  14. HelenWilson 30 Jun 2011, 5:26pm

    You know we need to strip away the party politics on this issue an see what politicians are really doing…..They all give us plenty of lip service but when it comes around to doing something about it they have all the excuses and delay and stalling tactics like consultations that go on forever…..Enough is enough, we want civil marriage equality and we want it NOW! not after the next election when a new government can delay us some more with promises that never happen….Marriage equality is not some carrot they can dangle on a stick to entice us to vote for a particular party, its a fundamental human right…….When will we learn promises of tomorrow never happen as far as politicians are concerned.

  15. Boris Johnson may be passive on LGBT right.

    But Ken Livingstone is passive on genocidal homophobia.

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2011, 10:40am

      Excellent point!

  16. Look who is trying to stir up the gay vote. Unfortunately Ken the difference between New York and London is the different style of government. The New York State law enabled gay marriage in New York City because of governor Andrew Cuomo, where as the London council can not enact such a law. Gay Marriage would be classed as national issue which should be discussed to members of parliament rather than city mayors.
    I don’t mind equality laws but I am more worried by other aspects of politics which has affected almost everyone.

  17. At the end of this piece, there are as always links to just a selection of past PinkNews articles generated from similar key words. Presumably – and as according to Livingstone and some of the more hysterical leftie commentators here – these would be about evil Boris biting the heads off gay babies? Well, actually, they are not. 17 January 2011: “Ken Livingstone accused of hypocrisy for earning money from anti-gay Iran.” 9 March 2011: “Ken Livingstone defends anti-gay Muslim cleric.” And so it goes on. Last year – all the stories re Livingstone and that nice Mayor of Tower Hamlets… And on. And on, and on. But don’t worry about reality: that doesn’t seem to be the meme for commentary on gay issues, as evil Boris bogeyman is such a comfort blanket. If readers think that Livingstone actually cares too figs about the sensitivities of gay Londoners as opposed to thinking them part of an essential anti-Tory box-ticking exercise, you need your heads examined. But then some of you do.

    1. Agreed, but there are some very, very naive, stupid gay londoners who will probably vote for homophobic livingstone.

      1. Staircase2 1 Jul 2011, 5:09pm

        Its not factually true to call him homophobic

  18. If he wants my vote he can go to the east london moske and tell them the stop hating. until the he can fcuk off

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2011, 10:41am

      Yeah, think he throw that chance away when he broke ranks with his party to support the Homophobic Mayor of Tower Hamlets.

  19. “One lesson is that we need a Mayor’s LGBT Advisory Panel – and I would appoint a full-time LGBT adviser”

    Why do we need a LGBT advisory board? Ken really thinks that if he appoints these talking-shops (I doubt they would be investigating homophobia in Tower Hamlets, that’s for sure. I could do that for free!) using tax payers money and gain our votes….. He must think we’re crazy and extremely easily led.

    Ken, go away. You’ve had your turn. Go write books or something. Or campaign for LGBT equality in Tower Hamlets.

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2011, 10:42am

      In other words Ken would happily waste more money.

      His signature from last time.

      Nothing changes.

  20. “The city of New York has now made a clear blow for equality – and in the process given clear leadership – with its passage of the same-sex marriage policy. It’s time for the British government to get on with legalising same sex marriage here.”

    Well said, Ken. Nobody else is saying it, long overdue! Why can’t Cameron say it?

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2011, 10:43am

      Guess Ken will say anything to try and plug some votes.

  21. Can’t stand Ken, Boris does more for London than Ken. Ken was all about taxing Londoners more because well we’re Londoners. He needs to stay away. I’ll be voting Boris next year.

    1. Under Boris the Tube has got more expensive, the bridges to south london are shut all at once, you may as well not bother trying to get into london if you live in outer london at the weekend cos he has closed down all the tubes, and bus fairs have gone through the roof, and this is before he brings in his idiotic routmaster buses which cost ten times the cost of a normal bus….and we will be picking up the tab for that too no doubt. The Cost of Boris, and the Cost of his silence when his mates in downing street are cutting the country to shreds means he has to go….. how could he leave lgbt organisations to fend for themselves against Tory cuts to homophobic hate crime support groups and other front line services? Dont be fooled by the Nasty party and its friends….

      1. We certainly shouldn’t be fooled by you, that is for sure.

        Where is Ken going to get the money from for all these LGBT organisations he wants? What will they do? Why do we need them? I will tell you for free where Ken needs to get his prioritises right, Tower Hamlets. LGBT equality is going backwards there. And City Hall, Ken welcomed anti-gay extremists with open arms. I will tell you for free, the LGBT community were extremely angry by this. As if the London mayor, that claims to support LGBT people, would welcome with open arms a homophobe, but one that wants us killed too?! I have let you know just some concerns of LGBT Londoners and I did it for free, without an expensive LGBT talking shop.

      2. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2011, 10:46am


        Wow, what a short memory you have!!

        Ken put up fares by more in his terms plus he raised the council tax year after year. Something Boris hasn’t done once since he became Mayor.

        Ken was more about wasting money and giving jobs to his friends whereas Boris is about London and Londoners.

  22. Ken brought in the civil partnership register, backed the central london route for pride in London, supported the vigil when David Morley was murdered in London, and pioneered the homophobia dvd in schools in London with Stonewall – & he is accused of being a homophobe! Meanwhile, the Tory party has links with far right MEPs in Europe shutting down gay rights. just because Pink news doesnt attack Boris or Cameron on this, you consider Ken to be a homophobe. The media gives the Tory party a soft ride – but they have not changed their colours, which is why Boris has presided over cuts to the LGBT initiatives in city hall, whilst under Ken they increased. I look forward to the day when Pink news,(or blue news?) the Tory press and others in the supposedly unbiased media draw the links between the Nasty party’s alliances with homophobes in Europe and Boris’ cuts to LGBT communities in London – but I guess it wont happen with elections around the corner – might cost Boris the pink vote eh?

    1. You completely ignore Ken’s links to Iran, that executes gay people and forces many to undertake sex changes. You completely ignore the fact he supported the mayor of Tower Hamlets that has links to homophobic extremist European Muslim group (He was excluded from the Labour party, due to this). You completely ignore the fact he welcomed people to City Hall that want gay people killed, with open arms. Do we want Ken back so he can continue doing this? NO! Ken hasn’t spoken out against the homophobia in East London Mosque and Tower Hamlets council chamber. Ken is losing the gay vote and people like you Elision can not face it. Sorry, he has blown it. We’re not interested in increasing council tax to pay for piss ups in Soho or ridiculous LGBT Advisory board that will do absolutely nothing for LGBT Londoners. It’ll be a talking shop, I’ll tell you where there is growing homophobia, in Ken’s Tower Hamlets! LGBT equality is going backwards in the borough and it frightens me. Not Ken Again!

      1. Jock S. Trap 1 Jul 2011, 8:59am

        Sadly they ignore because it suits them Luke.
        Thankfully most of us don’t forget.

        1. LGBTory HQ are off again. Some people ignore what the tories have done because it suits them Jock. But thankfully most of us don’t forget. Iran? What about the tory governments links to Saudi. You should check out the weapons the current government has sold them. Mosques? I don’t see the chair of the tory party, Mrs homophobic Warsi speaking out against mosques. Would you like me to get some quotes about what she thinks about gay people? When the tories have actually done something for gay rights other than talk about it, come back to us and tell us. Sadly some ignore how the tories treat gay men because it suits them. Thankfully most of us don’t forget.

          1. Point is, the Tory party is supposed to be this right wing, homophobic party whilst Ken, on the other hand, is this saviour of Ken people, yet his recent record is absolutely shocking.

            The Tories may have done some bad things in the past but in 2011, they are moving forward and we have a supportive PM! Yet Labour’s Ken Livingstone is bending over backwards in welcoming homophobic extremists that want us dead and supporting extremist candidates for office. Ken is going backwards. His Tower Hamlet’s borough is going backwards yet we hear nothing from the left about this. They remain silent. Yet these people supposed to be the beacon of LGBt rights. You may not like the Tories but not once have I ever heard them say they want us dead yet Ken invites his cronies that want us dead or want us to get a sex change (his links to the Iranian regime!).

          2. Jock S. Trap 1 Jul 2011, 10:21am

            Being that I never voted Tory at a General Election until 2010, your comment makes no sense at all.

            Yes I voted Boris last time.
            Yes I will again next year.

            As for the rest of your comments, they’re hardly relevent to this story.
            It’s about the London Mayor, London and whose best to run it.

          3. BTW, I am not a member of the Conservatives or LGBTory!

            I was a first time voter at the G/E and voted Conservative and will vote Boris in 2012!

            I look at today’s record, Ken is supporting extremist homophobic preachers. We’re going backwards in Tower Hamlets.

          4. Jock S. Trap 1 Jul 2011, 10:29am

            I think you’ll find that some people use the LGBTory HQ, etc ploy because they can’t get to grips that some us use our own mind to make decisions for ourselves.
            It’s sad but very true unfortuntely!

          5. Indeed, they just want to stifle debate. I won’t stop in telling them the recent record of Ken Livingstone, that’s for sure!

  23. Why isn’t marriage equality a campaing on the london pride website and why doesn’t Cameron’s speech on it not even mention marriage equality or the consultation process?

    It’s a struggle to find any active person on the issue, gay or straight, tory,lib dem or labour, Boris or Ken?

  24. What exactly has Cameron done for equality? I’ve not read or heard him say he supports marriage equality, although he did say he would “consider” it prior to the G/E to dupe gay voter support. I for one didn’t vote for him and I certainly won’t vote for him if he doesn’t get this done. Consider is far different from support. Empty words that mean nothing. Action speaks louder than words, so where is it, Cameron? Who is Clegg to say we’ll get it by 2015, how?

  25. George Broadhead 1 Jul 2011, 2:38pm

    SteveC wrote:

    “Ken Livingstone has NEVER apologised for inviting and welcoming a genocidally homophobic islamic extremist Yusuf Al Qaradawi to London, Nor has he vowed to never repeat this foul insult.

    Any LGBT person who votes for Ken Livingstone is very foolish.

    Thanks to his support of a homophobic maniac like AlQaradawi Livingstone’s previous reputation on LGBT issues has been massively tarnished.

    Ken Livingstone has said that he must welcome representatives of all major religions.

    Fair enough.

    But when said religious leader advocates the slaughter of LGBT people, then it seriously calls into question Livingstone’s commitment to equality.

    I am disappointed that Pink News is giving a platform to Ken Livingstone when the spectre of AlQaradawi is still hanging in the air like a bad smell around him.”

    Quite right!

    And not only did he never apologise for this appalling gaffe but he staunchly defended it despite the outrage expressed by numerous activists and groups.

  26. red ken yay!! i’m for ken!

  27. Notes from the GLA’s LGB&T engagement meeting
    8 June 2011, City Hall

    1. Welcome and introductions

    The Statutory Deputy Mayor of London, Richard Barnes, chaired the meeting and introductions were made.

    2. Notes from the last meeting and matters arising

    There were no matters arising.

    3. Increasing Sporting Opportunities for Londoner’s, Katy Johnson, GLA Sports Team

    Katy Johnson from the GLA Sports Team presented on the work that the GLA was undertaking to increase sporting opportunities for London’s diverse communities. (presentation attached)

    Richard Barnes announced that the Mayor would be signing the government’s sports charter to tackle homophobia and transphobia in sport.

    The following issues were raised by the group:
    – There was a lack of positive out LGB&T role models in sport.
    – Coordinators bidding to get the 2018 Gay Games to London asked for support from the Mayor for the games to come to London.
    – It was noted that those groups applying for funds from the Sports

  28. I support the positive motives outlined in this piece by Ken for the Pink, but his past history of cosying up to AlQaradawi and the like leaves me with reservations. An issue we should tackle Ken with at any given opportunity as the Majoral election approaches. What about these nasty and offensive anti gay/ pro sharia law posters in the east end. What will Kens approach or actions be to these ? Plenty of questions. We need solid, clear straight forward answers! and no X in the box until we do!

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