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  1. Jock S. Trap 24 Jun 2011, 10:55am

    More delaying tactics from the Republicans.

    The safeguards are already in place.
    They have been debated, analyzed, decoded and debated again.

    They are clearly showing their displeasure at this community in showing us they think we are second rate human being.

    I suggest if they want to look at second rate they look properly in the mirror not in their vain usual way.

    1. They will leave everyone stewing on this cliffhanger over the weekend no doubt just to add to the torment.

      1. Jock S. Trap 24 Jun 2011, 11:06am

        I think thats the goal.
        I seriously can’t think what else it could be which says it all about those people in question.
        They know it will come into effect after 30 days so they are just stalling as long as possible.

        1. They won’t just leave everyone stewing – they’ll be busy with other things and will likely not get to this before the legislative session ends. This will then be taken up again in the fall, perhaps.
          And the Republicans will delay and delay.
          It’s usual with them – and makes me marvel that none of them have been shot in a country with our amazing availability of fire-arms and lax regulations.

          1. Jock S. Trap 24 Jun 2011, 3:52pm

            Indeed, Very good points Reed.

    2. Miguel Sanchez 24 Jun 2011, 3:25pm

      I agree totally with you mate and I hope they soon realize we’re far from second rate people. In fact, we’re better than straights in many ways.

      The biggest one is that we don’t teach discrimination and biggotry to our children.

      1. Jock S. Trap 24 Jun 2011, 3:50pm

        The fact we’re clearly far from second rate when it suits like when it comes to paying taxes, insurances as well as voting etc but still they wish to bracket us into groups of scond class citizens.

        Personally I think the key to changing this is to campaign for lower taxes for LGBTQI people to reflect the inequalities we face.
        All that will do though is create so many false claims from people willing to lie to aviod paying tax they may as well give us our money’s worth paying full taxation we already do.
        Full Taxation = Full Equality and not separate but Equal ploys.

  2. Similar delaying tactics by the religious right were used when the UK equalised the gay age of consent. It eventually took the Parliament Act to force through the changes due to bitter opposition from the House of Lords and religious leaders.

    These bigots will do absolutely anything to slow the progress of equality, It’s in their nature to believe they have a God given right.

  3. These idiots really do disgust me. Stalling and stalling beyond belief because they don’t like the thought that maybe, possibly, may be their equals.

    Think it’s about time they got a slapping at the polls.

  4. Thanks goodness the LibDems have promised us here gay marriage by 2015.

    1. They also promised they wouldn’t raise university tuition fees.

      1. Jock S. Trap 24 Jun 2011, 12:56pm

        I guess thats the problem when two parties have to get together and govern.
        Both have to learn to give and take if they wish to continue to provide a stable government.

        It’s a shame no-one made such a fuss when Labour broke an election promise by bringing the tuition fees in the first place.

        1. Actually quite a few people did, but also the Lib Dems have broken more than just one promise, they promised they wouldn’t raise VAT …. they did, they promised Trident wouldn’t be renewed …. it was, they promised to tackle Tax avoidance from big business’s at the moment vodafone has avoided 6 billion in tax, the cuts to education = 7 billion, and thats another thing they promised not to cut education and money for schools ….. they have. Don’t get me wrong I don’t actually like Labour I think they’re pretty much Tories but better pretty much Tory than Tory.

    2. Where? Anyway, everyone knows that Lib Dem promises are like pie crusts.

      1. Alf N. Spit 24 Jun 2011, 1:31pm


        1. Dan Filson 24 Jun 2011, 2:12pm

          Attractive to view, but soggy underneath? And stop you getting to the real meat below? It’s a strange metaphor.

  5. Actually, Governor Cuomo can summon them back into session if it doesn’t come for a vote today. Technically, the session was over as of this past monday. From what I know, state government doesn’t like special sessions, but Cuomo is completely authorised to re-convene the session. He should do it and probably will. He should keep the republicans there until they move on it. Its been done before on other issues apparently.

    1. Alf N. Spit 24 Jun 2011, 1:36pm

      All tactics by the anti marriage NOM people are a war of attrition which they pursue even when they know they are going to lose, because they have the secret funds to do it. They don’t even abide by court orders to disclose their funding. They think that by being relentless they will wear out people’s drive for equality. History is not on their side.

  6. It may be that it’s just a time issue. After all, the NY Senate had many other pressing issues to consider during this extended session…like choosing the official New York state vegetable.

    1. Martin Lawrence 24 Jun 2011, 3:18pm

      And I notice the poor little flowers had to go home at 11.00 for the state of their health. Awwwww diddums. If the House of Lord’s can cope with all-night sittings without all dying then what sort of old crocks are New Yorkers?

    2. Alf N. Spit 24 Jun 2011, 4:10pm

      Choosing the state vegetable? That’s a bit cruel. Did it go to a politician?

      1. LOLOL. Unfortunately, no.

        1. Alf N. Spit 24 Jun 2011, 4:55pm

          Are they still accepting nominations?

    3. May I suggest a squash.

  7. Patience Running Out in Albany Over Delay on Marriage Equality, Other Votes. Watch the Senate Democrats getting angry: VIDEO

    1. Thanks Dana, certainly I am feeling fatigued with all the delay and constant watching for any new development while nothing emerges.

      1. You’re welcome, Pavlos. Keeping a close watch on things here also.

  8. Rashid Karapiet 24 Jun 2011, 5:32pm

    Acquiring legally enforceable partnership rights is of greater significance than gay marriage. I do not understand why gay people are hankering after an institution which is, to put it mildly, shaky. And this campaigning distracts from many remaining issues such as religious discrimination against gay men and women or official silence in the face of international persecution of homosexuals or, in Britain, the questionable treatment of gay refugees and asylum seekers by the Home Office and the wretched Border Agency.

    1. Try telling that to a married gay couple who got married in a Quaker church, a MCC church, a liberal synagogue or any of the other denominations who recognise same sex marriage. Try explaining why you think it is OK that their marriage has no legal standing and gives them no rights when their heterosexual counterparts are treated completely differently and their marriages are given legal recognition and they get all the rights and benefits that follow. Do people like that really want to have to downgrade their relationships in order to get a piece of paper saying civil union?

  9. Alf N Spit….I wouldn’t mind betting that the Koch brothers, multi billionaires, are the principal financial backers of NOM and other right wing hate groups in America. Thank goodness we don’t have that sort of thing in the UK, yet.

    NOM et al should be on the list of undesirables entering our country, a threat to the common good of our society.

    1. Alf N. Spit 24 Jun 2011, 6:55pm

      Never heard of them, but I think we do have a fortunately inept smaller pressure group here that doesn’t seem to be short of funds.

    2. But we already have the Christian Institute and the Christian Legal Centre, both could be classified as anti-gay hate groups who tirelessly lobby and litigate vexatiously to erode hard won progress on gay equality.

  10. Alf N Spit, google them to find out more. Dangerous men I might add.

    Pavlos, true but are they receiving vast amounts of pounds from anonymous resources? We don’t have anything of that scale as we’re seeing in American politics, thankfully.

    1. Are they receiving funding from the American Christian Defence Alliance? I think it’s safe to say they have strong links with the Defence Alliance anyway.

  11. Pavlos, hard to say, its quite possible. Hopefully not.

  12. The vote is tonight – any hour now – confirmed in the New York TImes.

    Live video of the vote here:

  13. According to republicans Mike Long and Senator James Alesi, the 32nd vote is there and possibly two more. Only 32 votes are needed, so it looks like it will pass. Congratulations to New York in advance, well done! This is going to be HUGE!

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