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Australian PM Julia Gillard faces gay marriage grilling

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  1. What a great publicity stunt! The Australian press will love it…

  2. Jock S. Trap 17 Jun 2011, 11:44am

    Wondering what the next headline will be on the day after this dinner!
    Or will it get cancelled?

  3. I love the stunt … Can I join a UK organisation that pushes such honourable causes with such panache … please …

    1. Galadriel1010 17 Jun 2011, 2:13pm

      The Aussie gay rights movement is so much more organised than it is over here. There were at least two marriage equality marches in Melbourne whilst I was there, and I was only there six months and not paying much attention to anything apart from university. Can’t imagine Stonewall organising a march up Oxford Street and paintballing models of Cameron, can you?

      1. Can’t quite see it but would relish it …

        Or a BBQ in Downing Street with 5 other gay-ers that might be fun

    2. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 10:03am

      Prehaps Stonewall should have the same kind of competition so people can question their commitment on marriage Equality?

      1. I wouldnt enjoy a BBQ with Ben Summerskill as much as I would with David Cameron and Nick Clegg …

        1. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 12:20pm

          But David Cameron and Nick Clegg have openly supported marriage and civl partnership Equality.
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          Stonewall on the other hand have to be pushed and pushed into supporting and it still looks like they are stalling on the subject.

          1. @Jock S Trap

            I still think there are issues to push Cameron and Clegg on in terms of LGBT rights.

            The leaders of the country are more likely to bring us the rights than Stonewall – Stonewall has had its uses but is stagnating.

            In any event I would enjoy a Downing Street BBQ more than meeting Summerskill

          2. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 3:27pm

            So long as they ain’t serving again.
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            Interesting place though away from the days politics.

          3. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 3:28pm

            Cleggy made a right ol mess serving the salad last time!!

  4. concerned resident of E3 17 Jun 2011, 12:09pm

    Really hope that this, with all the the patient lobbying and a possible yes vote at conference will ultimately change Julia’s mind on this. It is perplexing that she holds this opinion and I don’t think anyone would punish her for changing it.

    1. This article may help you understand Jullia and the Australian Labour party and why she holds “her” or is it the Catholic’s opinion”

      http://economics.com.au/?p=6402

      “The labour party and the Catholic Church”

      1. concerned resident of E3 17 Jun 2011, 12:52pm

        while this is true, it is also true of the Labour party in Scotland but that did not ultimately stop them legislating against Clause 28, lowering the age of consent and introducing civil partnerships in the Scottish parliament in the teeth of a very hostile campaign against each by the Catholic bishops. Now Gillard is an atheist and is also not married to her partner, she has an out lesbian in her cabinet and by all accounts in her private life she is not anti-gay. So the suspicion will always be there that she is adopting this line purely for electoral purposes because she knows the Catholic church can mobilise a substantial portion of the Labour vote. She needs however to have the courage to take on the church as the Scottish Labour Party did because this issue commands widespread support in Australia now.

        1. Well she doesn’t have a majority govt anymore and depends on the Green voting with her so hopefully that may sway her opinion as well…personally I don’t think she has any opnion at all and simply sits on the fence and will say anything depending on where the power shifts…frankly I find her a crappy PM , only marginally less crappy than Abott

  5. This should be a shock to her system. I would love to see the meal like an episode of come dine with me.

    A very clever way of getting your point across, I’ll be following this story to see what the outcome is.

    1. Can we persuade the Australian media to film it …. lol

  6. Hopefully this will go some way to shaking her bigoted views.

  7. Coming from South Africa – where gay marriage enjoys the same same legal status as straight (the definition of marriage here is the joining in union of two consensual adults for life) – I cannot believe such a a liberal country as Australia still is debating this……! Doesn’t the Oz gay population have any clout?

    1. mary libcke 17 Jun 2011, 12:37pm

      I completely agree. Here in the U.S. gay marriage is certainly not equal either.

    2. michael in sydney 17 Jun 2011, 1:26pm

      polls have shown that a majority of australians support gay marriage but our current government barely made it into power in the election, the nation isn’t happy with either of our major parties that ran. We didn’t have a majority government voted int and we have a few independants and the greens party who have formed a majority government with labour as votes were so spread out. Labour is introducing a carbon tax which has made them look like they are pandering to the greens (who are for gay marriage equality) to keep their government alliance, so they are using the anti gay marriage stance as a way of distancing themselves from that perception. there is a few reasons why, but mainly its being used as a political foot ball. also both major parties have strong alliances with christian groups :(

      1. Cheers for that Michael – sounds like a political nightmare! I thought the majority of Ozzies would support gay marriage…..it seemed strange to me that it was still being debated. Now it makes sense! Politicians…trust them as far as you can throw them. They are public servants – but they seem to forget that!

    3. Francois, Australia liberal? You have to be kidding? I have lived in Australia all of my life and it is a very conservative country. Gay, lesbian and transgender people face discrimination and open hostility everyday! The ‘religious’ monsters are going to fight to the death over marriage equality! It is like a war as far as I am concerned! The two old political parties are in bed with the Australian Christian Lobby and will do anything that organisation asks them!

    4. No Australia is a very complacent country. Not a lot of fighting spirit here. Too much of the laid back attitude.

      Also we are not a democratic country as we once was. Very Communist now under this Prime Minister and Government.

      1. michael in sydney 20 Jun 2011, 11:34am

        I agree Australians tend to be complacent

  8. I don’t know about grilling. She certainly needs spit-roasting.

    1. I wouldn’t touch her with a ten foot barge pole

      1. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 10:04am

        I cover my eyes on seeing any picture of her in case she can still turn us to stone.

  9. How do I add an avatar its really complicated.

  10. I hope the 3 couples are quite blunt with her and ask her straight out

    “Hey Prime Minister, how can you as an atheist, dare to pretend that same sex couples be denied access to the legal contract of marriage’.

    I suspect the wretched bigot will cancel this dinner.

    She is vile scum!

    1. If she does have that dinner then I hope its a low fat one because her arse is getting gigantic

  11. So, let me get this straight..Charlie Sheen can make a “porn family”; Kelsey Grammer can end a 15-year marriage over the phone; Larry King can be on divorce #9; Brittany Spears had a 55-hour marriage; Jesse James and Tiger Woods, while married, were having sex with EVERYONE. Yet, the idea of same-sex marriage is going to destroy the institution of marriage? Really? Our Prime minister Julia Gillard has to wake up to reality, and hopefully this dinner will do just that.

  12. I think it would only be fair for public interest that they stream this dinner live across the pInkernet!

    (Or at least one of the couples sneaks in their iPhone and Ustreams it)

  13. muscletongue3000 17 Jun 2011, 5:08pm

    traditionalist? living in a non “marriage” is not part of a traditionalist view. it is sin and forbitten in most cultures –

    1. She and her partner are actually getting married – he proposed not long ago. Having said that, I don’t know many people who look kindly upon an engaged athiest denying gay people the right to marry. It’s just a tad hypocritical.

  14. GetUp! is not a gay rights movement. It supports a variety of progressive actions for justice.

  15. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2011, 10:06am

    What they have deliberately left out that these people invited are in fact dinner for this witch.

  16. If she’s such a “cultural traditionalist” then why isn’t she married to that man she’s living with? In most “traditional” cultures such a thing would be seen as quite immoral (and possibly illegal).

    1. @Daniel

      Could that be that she has double standards and is only a cultural traditionalist when it suits her?

    2. But doesn’t the natural order theory put forward by the Christians mean that marriages are only for the factory production of children ….you want strong young women for that not ageing redheads…apparently she has ” been criticised for having an empty fruit bowl and a barren womb. ” …can’t remember who made the comment but it sounds like a Cath.

  17. Governments need to start taxing the Christian churches in the USA and other countries for getting involved in politics which is illegal in American and if you see a preacher or hear of a preacher using his church to preach politics report them to the IRS until the tax them for violations of the tax laws.

  18. Rich (original) 18 Jun 2011, 8:38pm

    She should kick out homosexual degenerates from her country….

    1. She certainly should bar you from Australia – you would be a waste of their oxygen

      1. Jock S. Trap 19 Jun 2011, 7:29am

        Anywhere should if it had any sense.

    2. Rich you are obviously a person who is trying to make Muslims look ridiculous while insulting gays at the same time,
      Now what kind of a troll is both anti-Muslim and anti-gay?
      I’d put my money on your being a Christo-fascist, bigot, troll.

  19. http://www.smh.com.au/national/qld-labor-backs-samesex-marriage-20110619-1g9ph.html

    Seems ALP in Queensland have voted to back SS marriage so she is increasingly getting out of step with the States and territories and the majority of Australian and labour voters…she really does need to show that is not being bullied by the right wing Catholic side of her party…….

  20. Julia Gillard calls herself a “cultural traditionalist” then surely as a leader of what is considered a Christian country she should be married. The fact that she has chosen not to marry is her democratic right. Then this right should be applicable to ALL. This article in my opinion illustrates the continued battle that is put upon us. http://www.mooneevalleyweekly.com.au/news/local/news/general/changing-attitudes-to-homophobia/2198854.aspx

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