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French transgender woman hopes to run for president

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  1. HelenWilson 15 Jun 2011, 2:56pm

    “However, the party expresses a simple adherence to the principles of the French constitution of 1793: respect, freedom and tolerance.” She forgot the last bit; lots and lots of blood and head chopping ;) …………….. I wish her well, her vote count will be a indication of the tolerance of French society as a whole.

    1. TheSpanner 15 Jun 2011, 3:40pm

      No, her vote count will be a function of multiple variables. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for not voting for this woman, I’m sure, that are completely independent of the fact that she is Trans.

      For her to assume she will get the majority of the LGBT communitys support pays a great disservice to LGBT voters. I’d like to think most of us vote on and consider a wider range of issues than simply those which immediately affect us.

      1. HelenWilson 15 Jun 2011, 4:56pm

        You are not the real spanner sod off troll

        1. TheSpanner 15 Jun 2011, 5:07pm

          Clearly- we have different names.

          Do you even know what an internet troll is? Someone who deliberately derails the conversation with off-topic of inflammatory remarks…sound familiar?

    2. Another Hannah 15 Jun 2011, 10:27pm

      The blood and head chopping happened when the French revolution was sabbotaged, it’s aims of Liberte, Fraternity and Equalitie are entirely laudable, especially given the people were starving literally. I think Helen is showing just how staid and conservative (small c) she is, much of the trans. community is very, very staid, with censored knowlege, and used to the company of the most progress resistant. There is a failure to grasp the forces concerned, that the French political system is not like ours, and that if she doesn’t win this will make other parties think about trans. rights more, and they risk losing votes if they don’t. Anf in the end she would be voice for LGBT people right in the thick of things!

  2. I’ve had the pleasure to know Brigitte for some time and she’s a pretty amazing woman who has fought a great deal for LGBT rights in France. She’d definitely make a better president than the corrupt old guard which make up the rest of the potential candidates.

    With the level of discrimination and lack of tolerance in France, I don’t hold out much hope for her winning the presidency but I do hope she will open a few eyes in this act that may result in a society more tolerant of those who live a life outside of the narrow confines of the mainstream.

    Bonne chance, Brigitte!

  3. B Goldberg made this party without the LGBT lobby. She is just alone and absolutly not representative of transgendered people.

    1. HelenWilson 15 Jun 2011, 3:35pm

      Is not the point that you will do nothing just representing the LGBT you need to have a much broader base of support to become electable. Single issue political parties never do well, just look at UKIP and the BNP.

  4. Jock S. Trap 15 Jun 2011, 3:28pm

    Good luck to her!!

  5. jamestoronto 15 Jun 2011, 5:35pm

    “Respect, Freedom and Tolerance.” Good words but can’t find them in the 1793 Constitution of France. In fact, that document never got off the ground, so to speak, since after it they couldn’t stop chopping off heads. Not an auspicious start to any campaign.

  6. OrtharRrith 15 Jun 2011, 6:05pm

    I wish her the very best of luck and I hope she makes an impact.

  7. I hope she gets a good amount of vote. I know she will not win, but if she gets a good percentage of the vote, then that is a good thing.

  8. Another Hannah 15 Jun 2011, 10:38pm

    I hope she does well, she does not have to win for us all to win and have a voice, and let the politicians know our voices count. France does not have an undemocratic system like ours.

  9. I have just looked at this womans website. She makes very clear she is not transgender and has went through a transsexual process.

    Why is Pink News imposing the ideology of transgenderism onto her, without her consent?

    1. well maybe i missed it: she clearly identifies as transsexual – and re-reading my copy, i might have been better to write that. Though in numerous places, she simply identifies as “trans”.

      What she doesn’t seem to do is specifically reject the transgender label.

      More seriously, as i do speak to organisations like Trans Aide – which describes itself as une “Association nationale transgenre” – on a regular basis, it may be that you are about to export to Europe a divide that seems to be far more prevalent in the English- or more particularly american-speaking parts of the world.

      Trans-aide quite happily mixes ts and tg, with links dotted about in a way that doesn’t fit neatly into the divide you suggest. Still, i should maybe have checked directly – so i will ask next time i speak to Brigette…

      jane

      1. It is difficult to export to Europe when I was born in Europe and presently live in Europe. I was actually born not to far north of you and will always live in Europe.

        Transgender was imported into Europe from the US. Not the other way around. I am well versed on the origins of transgender and the constant revisionism that has occurred over the last decade, to sanitise it. It actually is a good excercise in Newspeak and Doublespeak.

        Those who invented and first used the term transgender, vehemently opposed the right to sex reasignment surgery for transsexual people and campaigned against delisting homosexuality from the DSM in the US.

        Transgender in its original form, was an extremely homophobic ideology.

        The inventors of transgenderism also strongly supported making transsexualism a mental disorder and campaigned to make transsexualism a mental disorder.

        Transgender was used that way by heterosexual tranvestites since its inception in the mid 60′s, right up until the end of the 80s.

        Original transgender activists considered any MTF transsexual person who was lesbian to be a completely deluded man in need of therapy. Most of them refused to even accept the existance of FTM transsexual people.

        Regarding the transgender or transsexual arguement. They have had that in France, Spain, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria, Italy, Switzerland, luxemburg, Netherlands and various other countries in Europe, for over 20 years now. It flares up every now and again. You would find that out if you talked to ordinary transsexual people from those countries, instead of self appointed activists. If you did that you would find that the majority of post transsexual people out there, prefer to be referred by there first name and not labelled as anything other than the women or men they truly are.

        In her article, the woman you wrote about doesn’t mention transgender regarding of herself. Her involvement in a group does not indicate identity. Only she can tell you her identity.

        In future, it might be polite to ask the person you are writting about first how they prefer to be referred to, instead of imposing what you think.

  10. If someone’s silly enough to give their political party a name they’ll have to change in a couple of years if they don’t want to look completely out of date then I can’t see them being able to run a country very well.

  11. There’s a picture of Brian Souter next to the headline for this story in the ‘On Facebook; section of the homepage. Is that intentional?

  12. Viva La France, she has my vote.

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