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  1. Two issues jump out at me in this story – firstly the entrenched homophobic culture within Jamaica which needs government to take dynamic leadership and ensure that all Jamaicans and visitors to Jamaica are afforded their human rights

    Secondly, the actions of the Jamaican police officer returning the Swedish crews TV equipment actually portrays Jamaica in as bad a light as the homophobic culture. The implied corruption of sweeping homophobia and gangs attacking foreign TV crews under the carpet is outrageous. If the Jamaican authorities want Jamaica to be portrayed favourably in the international community then they need to ensure they clamp down on breaches of human rights.

  2. The corruption of the Jamaican authorities, the poor record on human rights generally and the prevalence of homophobia makes a mockery of the laid back image it’s given here in the UK by advertising and cultural references.

    It’s time for Jamaica to enter the 21st century and start getting to grips with it’s shocking lack of civility.

  3. Worst country I have ever been to as cabin crew.

    We had an attempted rape of a female crew member and a gay male was knifed.

    Vile.

    1. I have dealt with people from all over the world and travelled to more than half the worlds countries.

      Even in Iran and Pakistan I did not feel as vulnerable as a gay man as I did in Jamaica

  4. The fact that the crew’s equipment was seized proves the Jamaican authorities have something to hide. The British Commonwealth authorities should re-write the rules for membership highlighting that violation of basic civil and human rights of LGBT people automatically ensures exclusion from membership, permanently, unless it can be demonstrated that the problems have been remedied. Financial aid from the UK should also be withheld.

    1. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:22am

      Yes, I have to agree that does make a lot of sense although the betting is we would be accused of trying to overrule these countries governments.
      I agree though completely, all in these countries must have decent human rights including the LGBt communities of those countries.

  5. “an angry mob wielding machetes and other weapons”

    What are these people, animals?

    1. israel4ever 1 Jun 2011, 7:28pm

      Yes.

    2. Unfortunately it is the description of many events in Jamaica that I have heard of

    3. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:19am

      Most animals act more civilalised than these thugs.

  6. … he was only trying to prevent foreign film crews portraying Jamaica in a negative light.
    .
    When a policeman really doesn’t understand the concept of censorship, a country’s in trouble.
    .
    Sorry, stating the bleeding obvious as far as Jamaica’s concerned.

  7. Staircase2 2 Jun 2011, 12:54am

    what a bunch of wankers

  8. jamestoronto 2 Jun 2011, 4:06am

    [For the Jamaican] government to take dynamic leadership and [for the police] to clamp down on breaches of human rights… will all take place shortly after the Pope and the Ayatollah and the like all state that being gay is okay.

    When the government and the police are the worst abusers of human rights in the country expecting them to do an about face is purely wishful thinking. Jamaican culture in general is unashamedly proud of its homophobic attitude. It is disgusting to hear about how the population feels murdering gay people is quite acceptable and the killers brag about it with impunity. A friend of mine who is Jamaican but now living in Canada as a “protected person” says that no one has ever been convicted of murdering a gay person.

    1. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:34am

      This is the biggest problem.
      This comes from another deeply religious country, prodominately Christian who feel this kind of behaviour is fine because it’s God’s will.
      Therefore I would imagine too many people murdered from our community with very little in the way of justice.
      While I agree with Robert that I wish the Commonwealth would act I have to question why organisations like the United Nations aren’t doing more to protect LGBT communities in these deeply flawed homophobic countries.
      It cheapens human life when they will act to save a population from a cruel dictatorship but not the LGBT communities threatened each day with being slaughtered.
      It doesn’t add up.

  9. johnny33308 2 Jun 2011, 5:54am

    People do you really need any further proof that Jamaica and all the other disgusting island ‘countries’ in the Caribbean are cess pools of bigotry and violence and unfit for civilized people to visit EVER? Do not spend any Gay money there, people-the citizens of all of these sorts of places do not deserve any sort of tourism at all. Leave them to stew in their own hatred and savagery. Cancun and the Riviera Maya are MUCH more hospitable than these stinking little island ‘countries’ which are worth nothing at all to anyone, unless of course the ‘citizens’ were removed. They are indeed VILE! Rich is probably from one of these stinking cess pools.

    1. You never call eastern europeans savages and they attitude is the same

      1. johnny33308 2 Jun 2011, 2:32pm

        Any place in the world where not everyone can feel free is FILLED WITH SAVAGES and barbarians-it does not matter the names of the places or the color of its citizens-savages are savages and barbarians are barbarians. NO place like this should ever be supported in any way whatsoever. Happy now? That includes the USA, as well-land of the hate-filled and bigoted KKKristians and other savages.

        1. Caps eh.bit of an angry one aren’t ya

          1. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:36am

            Like you don’t have your ‘moments’… ;)

    2. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:35am

      I agree johnny but what about those LGBT Jamaicans that live there?

  10. I agreee Jamiaca is full of violent idiots who also have spawn here spreading the same rubbish. I also think the swedish film crew are bastards. What do you think will happen to those gay guys now? The’re probally dead already

  11. Joe Smith 2 Jun 2011, 9:56am

    Having been there with my partner and felt the tangible attitude of dislike towards us I have to agree with so many of the comments made about Jamaica, along with so many of the other Caribbean Island states. We also have to include far too many African nations who have an endemic institutional and social prejudice against the open lifestyle of homosexuality, but we need to ask ourselves where did they get this irrational and bigoted attitude of hating all Gay people? Why from their good god fearing Christian bible bashing colonial masters of cause. This has to be one of the great enduring legacies of British colonial rule. So while we in the west may have learnt as a society, equality, tolerance and respect for the individual’s rights to lead their lives as they choose our previous colonial subjects cannot leave the teachings of their fundamental Christian colonial masters behind.
    Historically we only have ourselves to blame.

    1. But they share the blame, Joe, if they’re unable to move into the 21st century. Many ex-colonies have had no problem in moving on from homophobia. I think it’s more complicated than a simple legacy of colonialism.

      1. Iris unable to or not allowed to. The IMF fcuked jamaica over in the 70’s and ruined what was a properous country

        Life and Debt is a 2001 American documentary film directed by Stephanie Black. It examines the economic and social situation in Jamaica, and specifically the impact thereon of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank’s globalization policies. Its starting point is the award-winning non-fiction essay A Small Place by Jamaica Kincaid.

        These loans were conditional on structural adjustment policies, which required Jamaica to enact harsh economic reforms, including trade liberalization, privatization, and deregulation. However, the reforms were unsuccessful and left the country with $4.6 billion dollars in debt. The film blames the World Bank and the IMF for causing this situation.

        http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0284262/

        1. Interesting info, James! I don’t know enough about Jamaica to make much more than general comments and suppositions, but I’ve always got the impression that part of the problem is a particular ‘macho’ attitude (that’s not only in Jamaica) which might contribute to any homophobia there. Your comment about financial issues makes sense too. I had no idea about that. Thanks for the link.

          1. cheers Iris

            Their behaviou is inexcusable but if they had access to an education it may have helped to prevent the crap state the country is in now

    2. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:42am

      Joe Smith
      If this has to be “one of the great enduring legacies of British colonial rule” then how come Britain isn’t the same, nor Canada, nor Australia…
      It makes absolutely no sense to blame something that hasn’t been the case for so many years.
      It smacks of refusing to accept these countries make their own laws in which to government.
      Nothing has stopped them accepting the LGBT community expect themselves, their religion and their government.

  12. “The cop also apologised and advised that he was only trying to prevent foreign film crews portraying Jamaica in a negative light. Sadly, such arbitrary action has only reinforced the perception of wanton extrajudicial behaviour on the part of our police.”

    No need, the locals are doing a great job as it is.

  13. The Swedish crew must have known the nuances of how Jamaica is in terms of homophobia and the associated violence before going into of all places a volatile area to record gay men living in such, that was a stupid move on their part, they seemed not to have been properly advised or discouraged from doing so by JFLAG Jamaica Forum for Lesbians Allsexuals and Gays

    The don culture and anti gay sentiments are far more caustic/violent and pronounced in the lower socio economic parts here and becomes more passive as one climbs.

    Coincidentally there were two other film crews on the island one from the US and the other from Europe as well and they took the necessary precautions when finding and interviewing their subjects in safe spaces.

    This was poorly handled or was done to create news it seems here at the expense of two now displaced men who cannot face that community again.

    Usually with a film crew here one requires a permit which this crew as it turns out did not have.

    Sad.

    1. Sometimes the media will act (appropriately) with no warning ie seeking permit or making arrangements to go to a sterile area (which could occur if a prior warning is given).

      Acting in the way the journalists did, it was possible for them to present an expose of the reality of violence and indignity afforded to LGBT people in Jamaica and those that support LGBT people.

      I am sure if the police had granted a licence to film they would have ensured that the crew were not attacked – but it would not have been the reality of Jamaica.

      1. No Stu
        Journalist are in it for the glory. When they leave their subjects have to fend for themselves. Fanny Ann Eddy spoke to the UN about anti gay attitudes but no one was there to help her when she needed it, no arrests no day of mourning she is largely forgotten. She bravely made herself a target probally thinking that her death would be avenged. But nothing
        They dont care

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FannyAnn_Eddy

        1. @James!
          No James! There are some journalists who are purely in it for the glory, and some who genuinely want to help change things for the better – true investigative journalists want to encourage change – and those that help help them with the story are counselled in advance of the support that the media organisation(s) involved can reasonably help with and what they can not – and they have a choice whether to participate or not.
          Yes, there are some journalists who provoke situations – but many more responsible and ethical. The tabloid or Daily Mail style of reporting isnt endemic across global journalism
          Purely, because Fanny Ann Eddy did a very brave thing does not mean that journalists should not publicise the issues facing LGBT people in Jamaica now – and I for one am grateful that they are.

          1. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:44am

            Exactly Stu!

  14. Jock S. Trap 4 Jun 2011, 11:17am

    Yet more news of homophobes and another homophobic country.
    Nothing like playing into the hands of those making the film about their actions.
    When will humanity see all as human?
    Disgraceful.

  15. monkey for sale 4 Jun 2011, 2:16pm

    With the obvious exceptions of ignorance , filth and disease ; what have Africans given the world?

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