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Religious objections yet again! :-/
Hmmm, Brazil has just voted to end a chunk of legislation that protected the Amazon from logging. Not looking good for the new Pres today!!
Sniff missing lula already
So she take sides with the religious bigots. At least the LGBT people in brazil now know and can vote differently next time.
I’m still struggling to understand why anyone (unless they were malicious) would be peddling the ‘encourage homosexuality’ line. I would love one of these people to actually explain it, with their evidence base naturally.
She has a head like a goats minge
You took the words right out of my mouth, lol And a new hairdresser!
She was tortured for years in a prison camp in the 1970′s by the Military Junta of the time, so easy on her!!
why that does that mean people should go easy on her? she isn’t going easy on other people
What u on about? sounds like you are trying to make excuses for her hate and bigotry.
If she wanted easy why be President?
She had cancer at that time and went under treatment, loosing her hair. Hence, the wig.
@cris , good!, instantaneous karma.
No that cruel rapture but I repeat, why be president if she wanted people to go easy on her?
Doubt she’d expect it.
Either way what she is doing here is wrong and discriminatory.
Correct it or leave.
Very disappointing.
I have problems the minute they start the “…could ‘encourage’”.
Yeah yet again we can’t have people being themselves.
Religious agenda is to force us all to be straight and have children regardless of who we are, regardless of how we are born, no choice, no option.
As if the planet doesn’t already have enough problems.
And exactly what is so great about being straight? Aren’t they mostly straight men responsible for the world’s problems such as wars, famine, rape, prostitution,sex trafficking, terrorism in the middle east and elsewhere, political corruption,religious bigotry, rendition and torture of innocent people, the economic meltdown around the world, discrimination against LGBT people and in the case of Brazil, destruction of the rain forest and abject poverty in urban areas all across that country? These straights are the masters of hypocrisy, bigotry, corruption and exploitation, in fact they have a monopoly on it.
Exactly, totally agree Robert.
Seems they just can’t or don’t want to see it.
It’s not convenient to them.
mind you, youre taking it on face value that all these things were done by ‘str8′ men – just because they were done by men doesnt mean that theyre ‘str8′
And ‘str8′ people truly do not have a monopoly on ‘hypocrisy, bigotry, corruption and exploitation’ – gay people are just as capable of behaving like twisted idiots too!
so some religious bigots whine and she listens
stupid woman
its about maths, 2% of gay vote wont make much difference to her re election chances
I think you mean 6-9%
There’s also anyone directly related or connected to that person – like family that will vote against this woman aswell so that becomes 18%+ that she just lost depending on the size of each gay voter’s family.
Im guessing that she belives in conservative estimate, which is more or less 2%, so in this case your point proves mine. The estimate of 18%+ represents scenario where everybody in lgbt, child and very old, would vote, highly unlikely.
Clearly you believe that too.
Boy are you in for a shock.
“its about maths, 2% of gay vote wont make much difference to her re election chances”
You’re math is flawed, ironically. Bias is a problem for mathematical equations, it tens to make them, well, less equal.
She ought to be nicer to gay people. She’ll never get that make-up and hair fixed.
And she’ll lose ten per cent of her vote next time. That’s the difference between political life and death.
Yep, they should never take the LGBTQI… vote for granted.
Everyone no matter what there political persuasion should support evidence based policy.
This is where you use randomised controlled studies (give group a one thing, group b another, and group c nothing) and see what effect such a policy has.
Unfortunately due to people’s stupidity about science this is never going to catch on. There should be a non partisan pressure group in favour of evidence based policy for everyoner! If followed it would end abuses the world over.
I wonder if all these people who have seen the materials in question are now in fact gay, I mean after all this material can apparently encourage homosexuality so at least a few must have been encouraged to give it a go. No? Then maybe they’re just talking through their backsides as usual.
It will only encourage homosexuality if you are originally gay and have been a closet case …… Which alot of these religous nutters probably are.
WHile I disagree with her, I will say that the right wing evangelical churches in Brazil are a bit scary, so i imagine fear played a bit of a part in this decision.
Oh dear – one step forward, two steps back. Disappointing indeed.
Get a new wig :D
Dito!
Made me laugh there RedDevil!
All entitled to objections.
If the material was not appropriate then it is right that it is suspended.
Everyone on this forum seems to believe that people should be encourged to be gay, from the responses posted.
Children should not be taught about it, they should be left alone to find ther feelings, then if they require assistance, they should ask.
We do not need to teach people how to gay, gay people have far too may rights, and use the laws to their own advantage, this needs to be stopped, as this is not equality.
It is not disappointing nor is she a bigot, which is a very strong word to use against someone who has the duty and care of children.
If you want to be equal, then don’t do different things.
There is straight sex ed why shouldn’t there be gay sex ed
No one is suggesting children should be taught how to be gay. Do you think people are taught how to be straight? Were you taught how to be the sexuality you are? Gay people do not have equal rights to heterosexuals, so if we have too many rights, what does that make straight rights. Or do you think that gay people should be unequal and not have as many rights? You’re a bigot. Just as she is.
lynn said “If you want to be equal, then don’t do different things” What an awful, boring, empty, joyless, artless, and ugly world that would be.
- I fought with my feelings with little support or information and married a woman only to realize what a waste of both our lives that was.
– “Too many rights” As a US citizen whose family has to pay almost $15,000.00 a year more in taxes than a straight family in a similar situation would when we often do not have enough to buy groceries I think I need a few more rights personally. – People like you do not have the good sense or decency to study history, learn the truth of the issues you engage, or consider the effect your words or actions have on the lives of real people. You are a destroyer, not a protector of children, you are just another ignorant monster with the blood of all those children who have committed suicide in their pain and confusion on your hands.
You think you can be encouraged to be gay then? How interesting. If that were the case there wouldn’t be any gay people at all – all the straight sex education etc would have encouraged us all to be straight, right?
And it’s not just about children who are gay, it’s about ALL children. Equality education encourages children to understand that people can be different – gay, a different skin colour, etc – and that’s OK.
It’s a pity you don’t seem to have had access to such education else you’d realise that gay people don’t want to be treated specially, we just want to get on and live our lives like you want to, without nasty, ignorant bigotry and people depriving us of rights that you take for granted.
I find it more worrying that people still think being LGBT is somehow taught.
Disturbing or just disturbed people?
And “far too many rights”? All we want is the same amount of rights as straight people. Now off I go to attempt to limit the rights of all heterosexual people because I’m personally not straight. Er…no, actually I would never dream of that and neither would any LGBT person. Nor would I try to stop straight sex ed or straight anything. If I suddenly got the urge to do that, I’d realise I had a problem with my own self-esteem.
As we don’t know what the objections were or what the material was like, we don’t know whether the material was appropriate or not, do we?
there’s no reasons provided other then hints to religion being at fault, no-one has said anything to the effect that they believe what you claim nor is there any proof that you can encourage people to be any sexuality, children should be taught so they know if they are gay, be hetero or lesbian, gay people do not have too many rights as many countries still have too much homophobia and homophobic laws and inequality, she is a bigot, everyone does different things anyway as there is no standard personality, likes etc – you support racism? racism is about people being different
Lynne, are you from Texas?
Wow, Lynne, you so educated – cough – , Please do tell how you teach someone to be Gay, or born.
What rights? And please educated us about what is equality?
“We do not need to teach people how to gay, gay people have far too may rights, and use the laws to their own advantage, this needs to be stopped, as this is not equality.”
Eh, what? Are you stupid? How does one teach one to be gay exactly? More to the point, why were you not though anything about gay people to come up with this nonsense, are you that insular?
…..I dont think you understand what ‘equality’ means, Lynne….
Don’t think ‘Lynne’ understands a lot of things!
Just another politician who once elected turns their back on the principles they were elected on in favor of power and money. This one in recent actions shows no concern for any form of life. And like Obama she will likely not gain any power, but loose it for turning her back on the people who elected her. – It is also an interesting side note that better informed, more intelligent, more life affirming people, like Christina Kirchner, also dress a hell of a lot better too, LOL.
Great Lady! Congrats!!!
Oh Yay, Oh Yay, Roll Up, Roll… Yawn, I’m bored now!
Surprised I got that far to be honest.
stop dissing my cheap slut on the side.
I miss the Rich that had much better English and ranted about Russia. When is his personality going to “flip” over again, do you think?
Perhaps a spot of ECT might help, so to speak, failing that perhaps we can get the red flag out. It seemed to work before
Shocking!!
Not too long ago, the RC Church objected to women getting above their Bible-ordered station (children, cooking and the church). How stupid does a (wo)man have to be to lend her ears to some bishops?
This is disgusting,this presient is a troglodyte!! I’m so happy to be a civil partner of an English guy and live here in England.I’m afraid to come back to Brazil,they are so homofobic and nasty.I’m happy here in UK.
Kadu, I also think Brazil is more conservative than the UK, but she’s done that for political reason. Whoever was on the presidency had not done diferently.
Cris, I agree with you,but she doesn’t have a strong opinion.Do you know why? Well, some years ago, when she was just a candidate ,she said that she stands the gay rights and the abortion.Now, she has been done everything against these two topics,because of the bishops.There is no excuses for this.That’s ridiculous and pathetic for a president!!!
She Gould be disgusted with herself. The rain forests already over logged are losing the protection they had under her watch. Aiding the ruining of our world destroying it’s beauty , creatures, it’s very life force.
Now shes not going to allow kids to be educated and help the future generations be accepting and better people.
Adam88, no one dares to go against the evangelical bench in the Brazilian congress. They’re as powerful as the farmers lobby. On the top of that, Brazil is a extremely religious country. You have no idea how she has been praised on the social networks today.
Stop attacking her! She is a woman, you have to respect her. female politicians are far better than male politicians. Women have a much higher level of empathy than men, this is mysoginy, so shut up!
Just because she is female ,why does that automatically deserve respect more than a man? and it does not mean she is precious and above critique as a polltician. She has asserted herself as a bigot and homophobe. You do not understand the concept of misogyny, clearly .
Misogyny? Jaysus, not this lila again?
Sweetheart, I do not have to respect anyone simply becuase of their gender. One earns respect for ones actions. Grow up and cop on.
No. she is a politician, she has to earn respect regardless of gender.
lila? :D Equality is being treated the same. This person, who happens to be female, made a decision many of us here disagree with her on so we point that out – just as we would have done if she was a man.
And don’t insult real victims of misogyny with your silly – or, more likely trolling – comments.
Yep Lila was my first thought.
It’s seems Crazy’s back!
It’s ok, I’ll get me bike out ready!!
what the fukk, who the hell is fukking lila? I’m just saying that mysoginy is far worse than homophobia. Don’t offend women with your fukking woman hating comments, you are a bunch of fukkin cowards. A man who attacks a woman has no place in this world. Monsters!
Oh, grow up. What are you saying, that a president – or any politician – is above reproach if she’s a woman? Get real. (I do agree, however, that the spiteful remarks about her hair and appearance were completely unnecessary.)
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‘Misogyny is far worse than homophobia’? Really? How do you know? How do you quantify such a claim?
Er, Sorya, I’m a woman. And BOTH misogyny and homophobia are bad. ‘lila’ is someone who writes very, very much like you, both in style and content.
But what do you think of the actions of this woman? You didn’t say.
“Don’t offend women with your fukking woman hating comments”
My dear child, no ones comments are bigoted here, apart form yours. You will hardly get the respect you so deeply crave from acting like a rabid-dog with stupid comments like that. I suggest you get the help you need.
We should ban all promotion of unhealthy lifestyle choices, I’m sick of seeing religious advertisements on buses outside churches, and nutters shouting on podiums in the street. Stop encouraging our children into your religious cults you bigotted freaks! from a Lesbian Christian :)