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  1. Thats great. lets bring the full thing over to the UK next. Why should marriage be just the Churches thing

  2. These bigots cannot grasp the concept that marriage is:
    1 Secular
    2 religous (optional)

    1. Marriage is not religious. It was around long before religion. The union of two people.

      1. @Adam88

        Marriage needn’t be religious but its disingenuous to say that it can’t be …

  3. Sad c–t, to make one’s life mission suppressing the rights of the gay community. What an empty hate filled life he has, I’d hope he has an epiphany on his last day on earth and is filled with a deep remorse and anguish, I’d also hope that day is pretty soon.

  4. Bigots are losing on gay marriage, and society is winning as a whole.

    1. Hopefully globally that is the case, unfortunately some areas will take some considerable time to catch up with this …

    2. Don’t give them yet another excuse to discriminate by calling it ‘gay marriage’. It’s all just plain old marriage.

      1. Jock S. Trap 25 May 2011, 8:25am

        Yep, have to agree with that John.
        I do feel calling it Gay marriage devalues Equality.
        It is marriage Equality we want, not something specific to us as a community but something for everyone to celebrate.

        1. If have to label it I don’t mind same sex marriage (but only during campaigning to achieve equality) but once equality has been obtained … its marriage – pure and simple

  5. I think that reality is setting in.

  6. It should be like they have it here in the Netherlands, the complete seperation of marriage from religion. A couple gets married at the city hall (the only requirement of the government to legalize a marriage) and then they may go and have a religious ceremony if they choose. Makes things so much simpler.

    1. Definitely agree with that Dirk. Ireland could so with a little learning from the Dutch.

    2. Exactly right.

      Let marriage be a legal issue, insofar as the law of the land is concerned. Let couples make up their own minds on whether to add a spiritual dimension.

      People were getting married long before christianity.

    3. Absolutely, some straight and some same sex couples will want a religious aspect to their marriage/commitment ceremony – some will not … it is important that as a society we can facilitate both and that whether or not a religious aspect is chosen that there is no detriment to the couple

  7. Jock S. Trap 24 May 2011, 12:31pm

    Enough already and just change the damn law!
    They have the power to progress a decent society by listening to what the majority of people want.
    Question is will they peacefully or will they have to kicking and screaming?

  8. Dirk, that should be the norm across the EU, get religion out of secular issues altogether.

    Actually, since Daly is ranting against divorce, gay activisits in America should take that cue and exploit it just to annoy the republicans by supporting a tongue-in-cheek ban on divorce. I can just hear the bigot, masters of the double-standard republicans mouthing off about that one. Ditto for the conservative bigots in our own country including some in the Labour party, not to mention the arch bigot Tory C of E cultist clerics in the House of Lords.

    Cameron should take Daly’s concession very seriously if he wants to remain PM in 2015.

  9. Reading the article it quotes…
    “Daly theorised that God was boosting the popularity of gay marriage and polygamy to spur Christians into action and encourage them to end ‘easy’ divorces.”
    Where does this theory come from? I haven’t seen any press releases from god or his PR people. Maybe by contrast I could “Theorize” the popularity of gay marriage is as an example of the gay community showing the straight community how to get it right! which is almost implied in his theology .

    1. Where do any of the “theories” come from, they’re just made up to suit the owner. Studies have shown a perfect correlation between what “god thinks” and what individuals want to believe. Its quite convenient, really. They forget that the fallacy is that they imply god is a powerless idiot, or does not exist in the first place (although I’m more the latter than the former, personally)

    2. actually, God is boosting the popularity of marriage equality (what is this “gay marriage” thing?) because that’s the right way to live a good life… all humans should be equal. After all, if you believe in God, you should believe that He made all men/women equal.
      Daly, in his arrogance, is perpetrating a fraud against those who would blindly follow his interpretation of “God’s will”.

      As far as anyone can tell, there is no gain in the popularity of polygamy. There is no excuse for lumping it in with marriage equality.

      HOWEVER, if Daly really wants to “interpret” his Bible, he should remember that polygamy is IN that book and is “God’s will” according to at least half of the Bible.

      1. Talk about something and somebody you know. You apparently don’t know my God. It has never been God’s will for polygamy. In the old or new testament. People just do what they want to do. You should read the story of Sodom and Gomorah. Same sex marriage is wrong and I will stick with that until the day I die. Regardless of what this world says. I will love them and treat them with respect, but I will never agree. It is no different than any other sexual sin. Daly sounds like he is growing weary in his faith.

  10. Paddyswurds 24 May 2011, 2:38pm

    ……….Looks like the USA is finally being dragged kicking and screaming into the twenty first century.

    1. About time too!!!

    2. Don Harrison 24 May 2011, 3:20pm

      Paddy its best not to hold your breath

  11. “I don’t want to be extremist here…”

    Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!! Since when?

  12. George Earl 24 May 2011, 3:24pm

    I’ve been paying United States federal, state and local taxes for my entire work life–over 35 years. And for the same length of time I’ve been gay. And living with the same fabulous partner. In the years I have left on this planet of ours, why should I have to keep living a bit still in the closet? Sure, I’m “out” about much of my life, but where and when will my right to marry my partner be granted? So many countries are virtually decades ahead of the USA. At times I wish I’d been born in one of them!

  13. Is this becoming a US website?

    6 stories on the front page are about North America.

    Is nothing happening in the UK.

    Or is Pink News merely lifting stories off the US sites now?

  14. David, I would take it to mean, in the case of the UK, no news is good news!

    Its good to hear what’s going on in America and elsewhere because it keeps us vigilant that the crazy nutters doing disgustingly vile things there won’t be doing it here.

    1. Emphasis on the good to hear news from “elsewhere” particularly Europe which seems to get forgotton by PN…and possibly has a greater impact on the UK…i’ve got to agree with David, did PN used to report so much on the States…it’s such a big country with laws at state, city, federallevel . it’s quite confusing what’s happenning over there for non Americans….

      Gay marriage , for instance, is constantly cropping up in Australian news at federal and state level but it hardly gets on to PN??

      1. Jock S. Trap 25 May 2011, 8:29am

        Maybe you can’t tell where the relevent news is going to come from.
        Sometimes there is a lot from one country.
        Sometimes there more from one party in this country.
        I guess you can’t tell where the news will come from until it happens.
        Either way it’s worth reporting.

  15. George Earl, the reason why other countries, even the UK, are decades ahead of the U.S. is that religion based bigotry is allowed to meddle in the political process. Over here, it wouldn’t be tolerated. They can rant and spew their venom all they want over here, but they won’t get anywhere as they do in America. We don’t have even a quarter of the hate groups found in America, thankfully.

  16. Good on him for having the courage to own up to it. I hope to hell he’s right.
    None of which stops him showing the usual mad egotism of religious fundamentalists – everybody and everything comes down to God giving them messages.

    1. Next thing we know he’s be singing ‘I once was lost but now I’m found, was blind but now can see.’
      He’s still a bigot.

      1. Jock S. Trap 25 May 2011, 8:30am

        He is but still a losing one!!
        Or is that loser?

  17. “Daly theorised that God was boosting the popularity of gay marriage and polygamy to spur Christians into action and encourage them to end ‘easy’ divorces”

    No Daly…everything you and your group have dreamt up in the past and now has nothing to do with God….but you’re right you need to get your own houses in order before criticising anybody else lives…..My theory is that God created your type of groups in order to highlight what total nonsense anti-gay Christian groups spout out and highlight what a nasty bunch of people you really are!. Any popularity in gay marriage I suspect is a result of your ridiculous, discriminatory reasons not to have it and your obvious distate of gay people….it’s not what Jesus, God and Chrisitanity is supposed to be all about….no wonder people are getting repulsed by religion!

    1. It’s not religion, it’s politics. And the worst kind of politics. Who cares if anyone gets hurt as long the ones spewing hatred can’t be blamed. All they do is load the gun and hand it to someone else to pull the trigger.
      It’s called Henry the Eighth Syndrome.
      Look it up.

  18. Well there’s a small amount of progress here in that Mr. Daly finally admits that his fellow evangelicals are a bunch of steaming hypocrites who preach marriage sanctity one minute and have serial divorces and affairs the next.
    He still needs to work on the whole “what god intended” angle.
    He doesn’t have a hotline to god and anything he imagines god said is down to using his made up man in the sky as a sockpuppet.
    His “Old Testament” homophobe god punishing the evangelicals by giving gays equal marriage rights would be a bit of a stupid own goal by a supposedly omniscient being to prove a point!
    How do right wing evangelists manage the sheer cognative dissonance? Don’t they ever listen to themselves speak?

  19. There does seem to be a lot of cutting and pasting… In some there is no editing to suggest that the story is not regarding the UK. The report regarding military chaplains got me confused until the last few paragraphs… I think Pinkews is becoming a little lazy in its editing.

    1. I think US anti-gay campaigner might give the game away

  20. This isn’t an admission of defeat, so much as a rallying cry. Focus On The Family and its affiliates will now target their resources more carefully on those they have lost most influence – the under-30s, hence the Senate-approved “Don’t Say Gay Bill”, and every other pro-discrimination measure the Religious Right has cooked up to persuade gay teens to seek the “righteous path”. On a further note, it’s disingenuous to suggest anti-gay lobbyists don’t want an increase in gay teen suicides when every measure they introduce is designed to promote exactly that: hopelessness. In view of Jim Daly’s statement, the US gay rights lobby should be more vigilant, not less.

    1. Absolutely right. This is just him acting out as the bird with a broken wing hoping that there will be a rallying call to the cause through the fear of losing.
      It’s a cynical ploy to increase the closeted hate mongers to reveal themselves to the cause.
      Watch out.

  21. johnny33308 25 May 2011, 1:49am

    Wishing for other people to have less civil rights than those you enjoy yourself is patently bigoted and purely evil. There can be no excuse for this behaviour. It is grossly DISHONORABLE! Bigots are bigots whatever their ‘excuse’ may be.

  22. The term “gay marriage” is nothing more than incendiary, to agitate and enable our opponents. Pink News and others should refrain from using it. Instead, same-sex marriage is far better. Now that ten countries allow us to access to civil marriage, when do we hear “straight marriage” when a couple of the opposite sexual orientation marry? NEVER! Marriage IS marriage. In a democracy, rights are expanded, NEVER contracted to excluse one sole group who happen to be a minority. Using the term “gay marriage” is used by the religious bigots to include religious marriage. Pink News et al should refrain from using it.

    1. Jock S. Trap 25 May 2011, 8:34am

      I dunno, I think even same-sex marriage is still divisive just as Gay marriage.
      Personally I prefer Marriage Equaliy.
      Though I have been guilty of using same-sex in debates.
      Still surely what we want is to be treated the same as everyone else so I look forward to the day when it is just called marriage.

  23. Jim Daly and other Fcukers on the Family activist’s have it all so wrong, not only about marriage equality but also about what constitutes family, we are gay and lesbian sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, uncles and aunts, nephews and neices and even Mum’s and Dad’s.

  24. That is one guilty looking muthafuka

    1. Smug wotnot, more like! Look at that cheesy grin… looks like he already knows he’s lost face. :P

      Boohoo to Jim.

  25. Protesters recently asked Kate and William before their ‘royal wedding’ to support ‘gay marriage’ in the UK. But don’t we already have it?

    1. I think we have “gay” marriage equivalency but certainly not marriage and CP equality…putting “gay” in front of the word marriage or calling it civil partnership is pretty important distinction no matter what rights that come with them. I totally disagree wit the article the actual name the relationship /contract is given is very important……there is a perception that CPs around the world are inferior, not easily understood and in lots of countries they are inferior…it’s insulting to deny us it becuase we are gay, the only reason we were given it was simply to deny us marriage becuase we are gay, that alone…CP are new, young ideas , generally another label for gays…we don’t need or want it and it is to remain then let that label be applied to straights as well…

    2. Jock S. Trap 25 May 2011, 4:42pm

      How can Civil Partnerships be the same as Marriage when even the name is different, Tony.
      Your blog doesn’t make sense when the majority of us actually want Equality NOT second best.
      Why should things be different? Equal means just that Equal.

      1. High five to that!

        In my mind, it’s not a fight for rights. It’s a fight for equality, and that happens to entail rights. Good for those who have had civil partnerships, and I mean no disrespect by saying: I won’t be having a CP because I won’t be joined under an unequal union.

        1. Jock S. Trap 28 May 2011, 11:00am

          Totally agree Paul UK.
          I can’t understand those who say Civil Partnerships are the same as Marriage.
          Surely the clue is in the name.

  26. GLBT citizens are asking for the right of CIVIL marriage because they need the legal protections for their unions and families.

    Interesting editorial: In the Name of Love – Same-sex marriage and the right to not be alone

  27. Equal marriage won’t be worth much if we’re all dead:

  28. & he’s only saying this to drum up more support – MONEY! – from his followers! Just you watch – down the road one day a scandal will emerge to the effect that some (most?) of the money *didn’t* go into fighting what these sleazebags already knew was a losing battle!

    1. Indeed. I appears that much of the $ raised by anti-gay groups is being funnelled into the election campaigns of ‘Christian’ politicians who are: gaining power and staunching or rolling back LGBT, womens’ and union rights, changing school curriculums to reflect their world-view (Thomas Jefferson has been removed from new schoolbooks due to his being a symbol of the separation of Church and State) and supporting anti-Gay actions like those in Uganda.

  29. If god does exist, could it be that he WANTS gays to be able to marry? Rather than it’s some form of holy encouragement.

  30. Jock S. Trap 28 May 2011, 10:55am

    You better believe it baby!!

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