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Consultation on Liverpool’s gay village ends

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  1. What’s a gay village?

    1. It’s a bit bigger than a gay hamlet and a bit smaller than a gay town. ;-)

    2. Paddyswurds 24 May 2011, 11:28am

      A gay villiage in places like Liverpool is a place for straight drunken thugs to gather after kicking out time at the weekend to “bash some queers” or even murder them as in the case of the tragic Michael Hauser and many others. Stay well away from such places if you value your looks/face or even your life.

      1. Michael, Liverpool 24 May 2011, 12:00pm

        “Places like Liverpool”? Is that why the number of homophobic incidents so far in 2011 is higher than the whole of 2009/10 in nine LONDON boroughs? (Google “Huge rise in anti-gay attacks sparks call to fight hate crime”, London Evening Standard)

        The capital aint that sophisticated, let alone the regions.

        FYI, Michael Causer was sadly killed in a suburb, not the city centre. High profile attacks in Liverpool’s Gay Quarter include the one on James Parkes in 2009 and the recent beatings of two drag queens, but I don’t think these really compare with Ian Baynham being kicked to death in full public view in the centre of London do they?

        1. Paddyswurds 24 May 2011, 2:50pm

          ‘…………..
          ……Apologies on getting tragic Michael Causers name wrong and i can’t even claim typo.
          One can hardly compare a super-city like London with a city not much bigger than a large town as Liverpool is. Suburb or no he was murdered by straight thugs in Liverpool as was the Black kid whose name escapes me just because they thought he might be gay some years ago. Liverpool is and always was a homophobic cesspit, probably down to it’s overwhelming catholic ethos.

          1. You are a joke. Michael Causer and the black lad Anthony Walker where killed in Knowsley not in the city of Liverpool. Also, Liverpool is one of the biggest cities in the UK so I would get your facts right before spewing garbage.

          2. Michael, Liverpool 24 May 2011, 5:50pm

            Paddy, please come back when you know “the black kid’s” name and you can at least spell Michael Causer. By the way, “Michael Causers” should read “Michael Causer’s”. Notice the apostrophe? That signifies something belongs to Michael Causer.

      2. how ignorant are you. I’ve lived in both manchester and Liverpool and i’ve never seen cars filled with straight thugs driving up and down the gay village to hurl abuse and try to pick a fight in Liverpool. Sadly, i’ve seen this in Manchester frequently when i worked in a bar there. Liverpool is small but friendly and yes there are people who are homophobic but no more than in Manchester (or any other town or city), the supposed gay capital of the North.
        Further to this, it is not a ‘cesspit’, merely a city that has seen some very hard times but always tries to pick itself up.

      3. There’s a theory that anti-Liverpool xenophobia (which is what it is) is the last acceptable piece of the prevalent anti-Irish xenophobia that has only relatively recently died out. The fact this bigot mentions a “Catholic ethos” proves this.

        As a Liverpudlian of (partial) Irish decent, I find it incredibly offensive. No other British city is treated this way. What’s worse is this bigotry is still infecting national media.

        From personal experience, Liverpool’s gay scene is vastly underrated. Manchester’s is vastly overrated. Nottingham’s (where I now live) is non-existent!

        1. I find that. You cant beat a bit of Garlands, G-Bar and Navy … I find it much better than Manchester’s.

          1. That’s a good point Pablo and well thought out. It would explain a lot of things certainly.

        2. Paddyswurds 6 Jun 2011, 9:14pm

          @Pablo…
          ….for your info thes “bigot” is Irish and experienced liverpool when you were still a glint in your fathers drink sozzeled eyes.

  2. Llandewi Breffi?

  3. martyn notman 23 May 2011, 5:12pm

    they redevelop it…the hen parties arrive, closely followed by the stag parties attracted by the chain bars that will doubtless move in and you basically have an area indistinguishable from any other. Thats whats happened in Manchester anyway.

    1. I missed the spoons last time I was on Canal St :-s

      1. What’s spoons?

        1. Wetherspoons… a large chain of pubs in the UK!

          1. Its for common people

          2. martyn notman 24 May 2011, 2:15pm

            Ha! yes they are generally full of people eating dodgy food after picking up their dole money. No atmosphere either..Jeremy Josephs attempt to breathe life back into what was Spirit should hopefully be an improvement…

  4. Dan Filson 23 May 2011, 6:28pm

    Can you ‘create’ a gay village or does it just happen? I recall Earl’s Court in the 1970s and its death. Soho is having its day in the sun now but will rent increases pressure it out of business? Was Canal Street ever sustainable once loft apartment chic took over? Brighton of course is a different story – it has sunshine (British version) and the sea which together lure – in good weather – near-naked men, always a useful ingredient.

    1. Clark Downes 24 May 2011, 12:35am

      You can create one, though it probably will show. Generally they just form and then authroties that be accept it and name it a “village”

  5. OH DEAR …!

    Liverpool if i can give you any advice PLEASE think again ?

    I have lived in MANchester now for over 20 years and have seen it change !!!

    Your council is chaseing that pink pound Look what has and is happening here in MANchester It is eating its self

    You have a great comunity and sprit

    PLEASES PLEASES PLEASE think before you are forsed into making that change
    “The gay scene is not just for gay people. It is not about making it a ghetto, it is about making it a destination.”
    I think James Davis has given the game away with this comment ???

  6. Michael, Liverpool 24 May 2011, 9:21am

    Niall,

    I think what’s being proposed is physical improvements to the area and more encouragement of gay businesses there. As regards marketing, my only fear is that it’s marketed to the wrong people and the area becomes diluted with hen and stag dos. This would be a tragedy. Would be nice to see more ads for Liverpool in the gay press and gay radio stations.

    1. I know what you mean, just look at canal street and how MANchester decided to market the GAY village …
      Pride fetches millions into the city one way and another yet they have pulled the few grand it put towards pride …

      MIF has still got its fundding ???

  7. paddyswurds – Michael Causer was killed in Knowsley not Liverpool.

    Anyway, Im glad they are trying to get a daytime gay scene rather than keep to the nightime economy. Cafes etc will do wonders to the area and bring in visitors. The gay scene is great at night (sometimes abit too straight tho haha) but the city needs a gay daytime economy.

    1. Paddyswurds 6 Jun 2011, 9:19pm

      @James…
      ….and Knowlsley is located where? Last time I looked it was a suburb of Liverpool and just like the rest of this awful homophobic town somewhere to leave in a hurry.

      1. No it isnt a suburb of Liverpool, it is a borough in its own right – separate. What next? South Shields is part of Newcastle?

  8. This is what governments and councils do. They chase after the pink pound at the expense of the gay community. By exploiting, marketing the gay community.

    There is no dignity in being gay any more. We have all become nothing more than a commodity for capitalist pigs.

    I cannot understand the gay community bowing down to this. There is no such thing as a gay village. They end up being straight anyway. Manchester has proven that.

    Time to fight back and get our gay communities world, wide back. End the repression of gay men once and for all.

  9. martyn notman Are you for real ?
    “Jeremy Josephs attempt to breathe life back into what was Spirit should hopefully be an improvement” Get a grip !!!
    They are apeing Weatherspoons with its stupid drinks promos .He (Jeremy Josephsis) not doing this for the comunity he is in it for the MONEY …!…

    Nothing wrong with that BUT to see him as trying to save the village is a joke.

    Im pleased to see tho that you have HOPE…

  10. Liverpool is a place for homosexual thugs….

    1. And the evidence, if you please, Sherlock?
      .
      Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot you’re 7,862,334 miles away on Planet Zarg.
      .
      The way you write, you show so much hate, showing your true colours. Homophobic neanderthal.

    2. Unpleasant murmurings about his sexuality had also reached the school where he worked – “that I would probably be messing with some of the boys” – and so, at the age of 29, Muhsin decided to come out.

      “I came to realise that I’m not the only one … others are also faced with having to get married and so on, and negotiating this dilemma by drinking and committing suicide and all of that.

      “Out of that grew the need to start an organisation – and that’s the time when I went to the papers. I gave the whole story to the media about me and I said any people out there who are experiencing the same thing – get in touch.”
      http://www.al-bab.com/arab/articles/text/gt_may2007.htm

  11. There are several comments here about stag and hen parties invading the Village. Having lived in Manchester for a few years, I never really saw Canal St overrun. Yes, the ‘L Plate’ wearing stocking and suspenders brigade do descend every now and again. Where Manchester has the advantage is that with the village being one long street the parties tend to stay at the on end. In Soho and Brighton where it is more spread out some of the venues have banned stag/hen parties. I hope that the redevelopment of Liverpool will mean that it be inclusive and the hetero community can feel comfortable coming down for a pint. Maybe some prejudices can be dispelled in the process.

  12. Paddyswurds 7 Jun 2011, 11:10am

    Why is this non story still hanging around like a bad smell. Surely some of the stories that came after warranted more page time than this fable.

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