It always amazes me that America wants us all to think it’s in charge of the world yet continues to allow discrimination showing it is far from Free or humane.
Yup. It’s bad enough banning it, but banning any form of rights or equality? WTF is that about? God bless america my arse.
The USA is clearly a failed democracy if these rabid bigots are allowed to trample on people’s human and civil rights.
I really think that the USA has a fundamentally flawed democracy if a minority’s rights are subject to the whims of others.
you are confusing being democratic with being civilised
Democracy involves freedom for ALL human beings not some.
Interesting that that’s what some peopel said when laws promoting racial equality were introduced, kane. You see, most people don’t consider equality as uncivilised.
Too right Iris.
I find it funny that these people get so desperate they stoop so low.
Yet they used exactly the same arguments about Racial issue and Black rights yet theEarth didn’t cave in on itself.
It is religion that’ll ulimately destroy this planet through their bigotry and hatred.
I’m still astounded how cruel and heartless some of these Right-wing ‘Christians’ can be. When there are so many things going wrong in the world, how can this man genuinely justify stripping the smallest of rights which will make the lives of LGBT couples slightly easier. I mean seriously?
What absolutely nasty people.
So it’s not just “marriage” itself that they oppose now, it’s anything that resembles it?
What, do they think that if they get rid of legal recognition then gay people will just disappear?
They just don’t want to see the LGBT community being just like them because then they may just start questioning themselves.
It’s all about insecurities.
This whole arguement is about insecurities… Their’s.
They want to keep it to the ‘them and us’ thing so they can carry on assuming and labelling.
I agree with everyone here. America prides itself on being the “greatest country on earth”, whatever that means, yet it has arguably some of the worst social policies on gay equality in the western world. There are 30 states apparently that allow a ban on same-sex marriage, supported by almost all republicans (conservatives) in power.
Even with marriage equality in five states, those gay married couples are not entitled to any of the federal rights and privileges that straight married couples take for granted. So in fact, marriage equality in those states is not really about full equality at all. Gay couples still can’t sponsor their foreign born partners either.
I’m beginning to agree with you, David, it is a deeply flawed democracy and its political system is so screwed up that in some states, marriage equality is allowed to be put to public referenda to either give to or take away rights from gay people. Thank goodness we don’t have that system here in the UK.
It seems that homophobia is a vote winner in many parts of the USA. Just like anti-semitism was a vote winner in 1930s Germany.
Sadly, you are right.
Weetzie, there are apparently many right wing religious nutters in America who almost always vote republican and who do not want any semblance of equality for its gay people in any way shape or form. They believe in discrimination against the last group they can hate. Its roots are in religious bigotry too.
We need to be very vigilant in our own country especially with those groups like the Christian Mothers. I won’t be surprised that we’ll see more of them in the months ahead once the marriage equality discussion gets underway. Don’t be surprised if we see American infiltration from right wing religious groups trying to weedle their way into the equation, maybe even fund them, hate groups like that awful National Organisation for Marriage (NOM) that is throwing millions of dollars to make sure marriage equality is defeated in every state in America. They should be added to the ban on undesirables from entering our country.
This is what GLBT people have to live with every day in AmeriKKKa. Such actions as this fascist governor of Wicsconsin has taken instigates violence and even murder against GLBT people all over the US. Some freedom we have as prisoners of the fascist kkkristian agenda that has destroyed our beloved country. Disgusting and despicably evil religious people are free to inflict whatever they wish upon innocent gay people….
Thank god we live in Europe!
One of the things the founders of the USA were anxious to establish were constitutional safeguards to prevent democracy becoming popular tyranny and mob-rule. Sadly they do not seem to function at State level.
Yet again, the USA demonstrates breathtaking hyocricy. It lectures China about human-rights, yet Republican bigots like Wisconsin’s governor will take legal steps to prevent gay equality. Having lived there for five years, I can state without fear of contradiction that America really is totally schizophrenic.
Thats a fair point John.
It does show the US up for the hypocrites that are.
This is the same snivelling little bitch that is trying to break unions in Wisconsin? The same corporate bagman who was caught toadying to someone pretending to be one of the Koch brothers? That Scott Walker? Yeah, he is dangerously close to facing a recall in the next few months (I forget the exact rules) so he is trying to cement his position in government by appealing to your standard pavlovian right-wing hateful discriminating christofascists. It looks to me like an arse-saving exercise – that he throws tax-paying and law abiding citizens under the bus is of no concern to this filthy “politician”. It is an act of utter perversity. And exactly what I would expect from the GOP.
My thoughts exactly. What a depressing world we live in that supporting stripping away people’s rights is seen by some as a vote winnner.
Walker is a vile creature, who represents no one but straight, rich, white men. This is as unsurprising as it is disgusting
John, I so agree with your points, well stated.
I’m eternally grateful to be a British citizen. Our country isn’t perfect, but its a lot better place to live if you’re gay than it is in America.
People such as Walker are a disgrace to their country. They don’t give a hoot about the people, only their own greed, self-agrandisement and power who pay lip service to mob rule which is now the so called Tea Party gang who are controlling the republican party. Serves them right, people get what they vote for.
As Edina Monsoon (Absolutely Fabulous)once said….”stupid people deserve a stupid tax”.
I have very little time for people fighting against instating equality ……… for people like Walker trying to take them away I have absolutely no time
Walker’s agenda seems to be denying rights to anybody but his rich benefactors. Six Republican state senators are already facing recall. By Wisconsin law, Walker won’t be eligible for recall until next January. One would think he would tone it down in hopes people would lose interest but apparently not.
Nasty, nasty sociopath.
But the gay rights movement there is also pretty flawed and wimpy. They’ve literally handed it to those scumbags by either not turning up to vote to spite Obama because of DADT, or voting for the GOP or just being so strategically poor that NOM could come in and win ALL THE TIME.