So he was getting his end away without paying for it and he got 8 months for this? Judging sentences are just so random in this country. I wanna know how much an escort would expect to be paid to travel from London to Wales. They sound like suckers in more ways than one.
and a further three year sentence? WTF.
I also know a few of the escorts who were conned by this guy who weren’t sufficiently connected into information networks to know what was going on.
Goldsmith usually offered £2000 to spend a few night, or weekend with him in Wales. London escorts are frequently asked to travel outside London, and most are aware of the risks of expending large sums of money to travel halfway across the country on a wild goose chase, but other escorts newer to the game, think all their dreams have come true and fall for it.
Whilst the hourly rate for escorting may be relatively high, for some clients are few and far between and it may take hour after hour of sitting on the internet hoping to get a client, chatting to a series of time wasters and idiots before someone comes along.
Mr Goldsmith coming along with his offer of £2000 should have sounded too good to be true (and of course it was), but in the event of no other options on the table, its understandable that people might fall for it
Rumour has it that Mr Goldsmith would also ask the escort to supply drugs for the meeting, which the escort would then have to outlay for, and after a bit of slap and tickle, make an excuse to leave to the room.
The escort would then hear a car door slam and wheels spinning on the gravel drive as Mr Goldsmith exited the hotel car park.
I’ve also been told that he has drugged escorts with the drugs they have provided and stolen the remaining drugs and mobile phones etc.
Having supplied Mt Goldsmith with drugs, escorts have been unable and unwilling to the go to the police about what has happened and have had to sneak out of the hotel in fear of being charged for a room he has not been paid for in addition to their other loses.
(One) moral of the story is of course for escorts not to involve themselves in supplying drugs to clients, but when you are struggling to support yourself, its understandable that people will do things their might otherwise not, or that they might regret.
Bstard lets hope his backside ends up like a clown pocket
I note the various comments on here about giving up the day job, what a good job it is, etc, etc.
Escorting is not an easy job and as a result most people manage only to do it for a limited time before the constant pressure to party and take drugs (with people you mostly don’t know or like) takes its toll and causes problems.
Half the gay scene is out taking drugs in London, but to do it in an environment where you are uncomfortable and know no one is a recipe for disaster.
The pressure on escorts to take drugs is enormous and the physical effects on an escort that is working a lot can be equally damaging as any psychological ones.
Those pressures result in escorts getting into situations like this and having little recourse wen something goes wrong.
Goldsmith engineered situations where he knew that people were extremely unlikely to go to the police by pressurising his victims into committing illegal acts first.
I have the utmost respect for those who came forward to testify
Here in the USA, the hate group Family Research council – their founder, George Reker was caught paying about $20,000 to rentboy.com for a 21 year old male college prostitute to accompany him on a vac trip to Europe.
Jo-Vanni Roman, the boy, admitted his job was to give this hhomophobe massages on his private parts
Its always that way.
Stranger then fiction – twice exposed and caught in gay sex with male prostitutess, former homophobic minister Ted Haggard recently came out supporting gay marriage.
Got to feel sorry for his wife though – 3 dicks and no interest in pussy
Yep, this is the problem.
They will do anything to cover up there own actions even if it means destroying a community and it’s rights.
This is of course directly because of religion and the reason why we should Never trust those who preach such homophobia as it’s usually to hide their own curiosty.
Only those completely comfortable with themselves are at ease with all others not needing to question or restrict Rights.
lol! this guy has messaged me on gaydar repeatedly over the last few years. apart from not being a prostitute I kind of figured it was a hoax anyway. had to block several of his profiles
Was he randomly messaging people? Considering by your own admittance you’re not trade.
I wanna know how much an escort would expect to be paid to travel from London to Wales.
Presumably their overnight fee plus travel expenses?
Yeah but surely there would be some other incentive, I mean to get off your ass and go to Kings Cross to take a train to Wales to sleep with a guy. He musta said he was going to pay them treble time or something.
Usually these people offer thousands for their time.
Basically though these people hope to prey on the vunerable that maybe are desperate for the money.
Paddington is the correct departure stationn for Wales.
That half hidden train platform on the Harry Potter films- you’d need some force of the supernatural behind you to get you to Wales- especially for a sh@g.
why would you travel to wales anyway surely you can get enough business in london.
LOL. He musta promised them the moon on a string to get their asses all the way to Wales.
Genuine business as an Escort can take you anywhere in the country and sometimes around the world, Hamish.
Hopefully he will be out soon, and can take on this mugs again, well done for fleacing a gay prostitue.
It’s just a job not the most evil thing in the world most prostitues would prefer to do other things if they could. seems a bit harsh to want them to go hungry just because you don’t like what job they do
Hamish don’t patronise sex workers some have minds of their own and enjoy what they do
Go hungry? To be honest if I could trade on my looks instead of going down the 9 to 5 route I would. You don’t seriously think that the average escort (in London anyway) is on the game to make ends meet? If they ain’t selling their asses they’re off at the gym perfecting their physique. I think you have the wrong idea as to who is on the game these days.
I happen to know some gay prostitues in leeds and they aren’t exactly living comfortably. they constantly have the risk of getting a dodgy punter etc its not that glamorous however if it was legal I’d definitely do it.
The best way to escort is to go high end in hotels only no house calls its so much safer, and its not illegal
You can meet someone dodgy on a normal night out at the boozer ffs. As for ‘it’ being legal, I’m assuming it kinda is or else all these guys wouldn’t have made complaints to the police? I’m pretty sure you can operate as an escort or prostitute, you can’t pimp or control a prostitute but you can work for yourself so to speak.
Hamish is thinking ‘well when you put it that way’…..James! I reckon we’ve converted Hamish to the idea of going on the game. We’re gonna have to break him in then pimp him out to the Pink News brigade. Lu/Jenny sounds she’s in need of some human interaction. Tis is a dirty job but Hamish is here to do it.
Really I didn’t know it was legal. However I don’t think my boyfriend would approve of me selling myself lol
It depends, for most if your good enough you can work up a client list of regulars and then just do those with maybe a few extras every now and then..
I’ll have a word with him Hamish, he’ll see things our way eventually. Think of the extra income you’d be bringing home. If that woeful Billie Piper Diary of a Call Girl thingy has taught us anything its that the punters and clients all look like Calvin Klein underwear models, you get wooed in top restaurants and you have a bill at your local Ann Summers as long as Sarah Jessica Parker’s face. What’s not to like?
You don’t seriously think that the average escort (in London anyway) is on the game to make ends meet?
But what is the ‘average escort’ in London? I don’t think the buff Brazilians in a limited number of West End gyms would appreciate being called ‘average’!
Seriously though, I think it’s not particularly helpful to generalise about many hundreds, if not thousands, of London-based ‘escorts’.
I may have a go if I’m made redundant
Well why wait til you’re made redundant James you can come round and clean out my ‘gutters’ for starters. Even Jock admits to have being on the game back in the day.
You need help
Help? You can call it whatever you like James but yeah I need ‘help’, it should take a couple of hours, longer if necessary!
Yep, Even me.
Well I had to pay for my Hobnob addiction somehow.
Nope if you good at something… get paid for it.
My friends used to say I could charge for it so in the end I did.
Well Jock that sounds like fighting talk! In particular your admittance you’re good at it. I’d like to see for myself mind, I’d like to put my money where your mouth is so to speak.
No, I won’t expect you to pay That much!!
Anyway, those days are gone, only one man who gets those kinds of ‘favours’.
Oh yes and for free, don’t want ya thinking I still charge him.
CMTB you might not be a looker but you could still do triga porn I think you have the right attitude!
I have the attitude AND the looks, you cheeky so and so!
Its that cnut LU or that other hate fill frigid bitch but its name escapes me
Well done? They haven’t done anything wrong you muppet.
“Well done”, Jenny? So “well-done” that you go to prison for it? You sound more than a little warped, in more than one way.
Jenny is Lu by a different moniker. She’ll be banned again and reappear under another penis envying man-baiting name such as ‘Alice’ or ‘Rosie’, some feminine sounding name that contradicts the poison she writes.
Forgot about Lila and whatshisface the islamic fundamentalist guy is pretty quiet the last few days.
Thats the cnuts name
CYMB you mean rich he must have bought the dildo and a bottle of poppers
Ha! LMAO. Rich is the b1tch I was trying to think of. He’s ‘elbow deep’ in his uncle today I reckon.
oh you mean fcukface, nope sorry…Rich thats it.
Is that you lila?
Kudos to the sex workers for having the guts to step up to the plate and get this wanker convicted.
That man has no cheek bones
Where he’s going he won’t need cheek bones, a gag reflex and control over his bowels maybe but not cheekbones.
lol you have a filthy mind
Also he doesn’t look 40 to me, he looks about 20, that was probably another lie.
Somebody I know went through similar about 6/7 years ago.
They promise to pay for all the travel then a big pay out for there services.
Usually a thousand or two.
We kept trying to tell him it sounded like a hoax but he didn’t listen and sure enough it didn’t end well.
I think the old saying “If it sounds to good to be true” avoid at all cost.
In my younger days when I did escort work it’s the one thing you learnt Very quickly.
Having said that some people fall prey because they are vunerable and need the money.
and in other news Lady Gaga decides to change her dress…
But seriously this is pretty awful. A lot of these escorts are afraid to contact the police and I feel sorry for them.
Actually, on the bright side it looks as though a number of them haven’t been afraid to contact the police, and from this admittedly short account it seems the police have acted pretty responsibly.
Yeah it’s good to know because many people think sex workers, straight or gay aren’t looked after but then I still think the industry should be legalised properly.
However, yes it is good to know the police acted responsibly.
lol bless em but there is a certain irony here of fleecing the fleecers….
“No honour amongst thieves” as Pluto once said….
“lol bless em but there is a certain irony here of fleecing the fleecers….”
Staircase, how exactly are they fleecers. They are upfront that they are charging for a service and people approach them who are interested in that service. I can’t really see any ‘fleecing’ from them.
The ‘fleecing’ generally comes from the clients, who won’t pay, bouncy cheques, fail to do bank transfers, send dodgy confirmations that they have made transfer payments, give false addresses for the escort to turn up to, ply the escorts with drugs in order to stretch a one hour session into a six hour session for no extra money, abuse, beat and torture …. and of course on the odd occasion, murder, the escort.
CMYB might be happy to give up a career at McDonalds to take on all that extra hassle, but the level of ill-informed comments on here about the life of an escort is staggering. A few people here have a significantly romanticised view of the life they actually lead.
They are providing a service and people are willing to pay for that service, weither we like it or not.
It’s certainly not the easiest profession in the world, though it does have it’s rewards as well as it’s many dangers.
I haven’t got a romantic view of the life of an escort. TBH I can never fathom why anyone would need to pay for sex, unless they had some obscure kink that they could only get an escort or prostitute to fulfill.
There are many reasons why someone would pay for sex.
Some to pay for something more than they get at home,
Some want to have something they wouldn’t normally have or do,
Some to control some to be controlled.
Many reason as well as the obvious a lot of people find paying for sex the biggest turn on.
It’s a fetish with some people.
I wouldn’t call anything about it romantic and I agree there is a shelf life with this industry.
“TBH I can never fathom why anyone would need to pay for sex, unless they had some obscure kink that they could only get an escort or prostitute to fulfill.”
So running it into the ground because you don’t understand it.
Very quick to judge on here sometimes
Not running it into the ground at all Sister Mary, I wouldn’t pay for sex, others do, end of.
I can’t really see any ‘fleecing’ from them.
Quite right, SMC.
Sadly Staircase does have a point. Not all escorts provide a genuine, upfront service. A minority are little less than charlatans who turn up, and demand payment after only a few minutes, and become aggressive when the client refuses to cough up. Knowing several genuine escorts, they are having a tough time of it because of the current climate, and so the trade is attracting fly-by-nights who are scaring away regular punters. Most escorts go into the business to provide the best quality service and many do so because of their personal circumstances, as a means to an end or a last resort. As long as an arrangement has been agreed to prior to the meeting and the client gets the service agreed, who are the rest of us to judge? But the spotlight does need to go on exposing and unearthing the element of charlatans who are of the opinion they can rip clients off with impunity. Clients should be able to report rip-off escorts to a central database accessible by all to stamp out the rogues.
William, do you have any evidence that the ‘escorts’ involved in this story were part of what you admit is a minority? From the story as reported it seems to me pretty clear that the victims here were the ‘escorts’, not the customers.
I was making a generalised comment in response to Sister Mary about the fact that as well as putting up with this clearly mentally deranged fleecer, most hard-working escorts in London today have to contend with the fact that there are an increasing number of fleecers turning to escort work in these hardened times who are ripping clients off and damaging the reputation of all escorts. In fact, I would surmise that it was one such fleecer who ripped the odious Michael Goldsmith off in the first place. He clearly has a psychological personality flaw and it has been his obsessive determination ever since to claim vengeance by what he has subsequently done to seemingly dozens of escorts, and may well continue doing so in future. Let’s just not be under the false assumption that it is a one-way street here. There is a serious unspoken problem today of gay escorts ripping of gay clients, and I suspect the reason we aren’t discussing it openly is because we are scared of being called racist.
Oh, I see. Well, you may have a point, though I’m not certain where racism comes into the equation.
while there is nothing ‘wrong’ with prostitution per se – I dont know a single person who does it who leads a happy life from it. The current tendency for EVERYONE to do a bit IS fleecing. Many people who do it on a whim think they can make vast amounts of money for little work. Whereas the truth is that its a potentially soul-destroying occupation whic drags people into it and (if they dont get out of it of their own accord) leaves them often unable to do anything else to make ends meet. Its become fashionably gay to do a bit of escourting and in a sense that IS fleecing – charging for people to have sex with us when they would have been able to do it freely beforehand IS fleecing.
Prostitution is not a liberating/liberated pursuit and ALWAYS has an impact on how the individual is then able to view sex from that point onwards.
Fair do’s the man got caught. But its a bit like American Tourists being fleeced by someone selling them the Tower of London for £1000 – in a very real sense it could be said that it was their own greed which got them into the situation in the first place. Truth is: there is no simple solution here. The man was justifiably caught and convicted and the escorts in question learned a valuable business lesson which most self employed people & small businesses have experienced: ie how ensure you get paid for services rendered.
You lot would not be wailing so much had the services in question been house decorating instead of sex…. Which begs the question: ‘why’?
His intent was correct, but his method was not. Pity!
When we are all born Rich, we are gifted with a moral compass that guides us through the rights and wrongs of life.
Having read your posting, it is only now that I realise that sometimes they break.
That comment shows you to be a vile and ugly individual.
That you could condone screwing another person over purely for their own sexual gratification is sick. A very Dennis Neilsen-esque response if ever there was one.
Hi Sister Mary, the common consensus on here was to just ignore ‘Rich’ until he f–ked off to some other message board. He’s beyond boring now.
Never heard of him.
This is of course complete rubbish:
‘morals’ are LEARNT not innate….
“there is no such thing as right and wrong – only what works, given what we say we wish to be, do or have”
(God, conversations with God by Neil Donald Walsch)
What Rich said was also complete meaningless rubbish but to somehow equate this to Dennis Neilson is kinda screwed up….
don’t defend rich or you’ll get one of my famous bitch slaps
theres enough of that crap in the gay world as it is without you espousing it too
I like the sound of DC DADY
Degenerated homosexuals (“gays”) on this site defending homosexual prostitutes… That’s clearly indicates their siding with immorality and they want support the EVIL of prostitution in society.
I am sure that such degenerated homosexuals are prostitutes themselves, and this is the reason why they are on defensive here.
And yet human beings weither heterosexual or homosexuals and prostitutes weither straight or gay have been around since year dot.
Much, Much longer than religion itself and it is only Religion that is Evil in it’s blatant hate and discrimination of all those around them.
People live in reality Rich, it is you and your ilk that openly support the Evils of this world and the day your Religions are dead in the water the better the world will finally be.
No go, you only booked that male escort for an hour, stop wasting you time on here and get your good …. already!!
What an idiot.
Just because somethings been around for a long time doesnt mean its an inherently good idea!
(so has slavery!)
I wish youd get over the religion thing – it clouds almost everything you talk about…..
You know it comes to something. I was raised by a religious family, who support me no matter what yet abused and discriminated and worse besides by Religion and their follower who tried to claim they were better than me. Yet every mouth full they gave was nasty, vicious and vindictive. This they call love. For the better good. To save something or other but the only person these people like Rich are Ever bothered about is themselves. Surely that proves that the only immoral people on this planet are people like Rich, because when ever I look and listen to people like Rich I know I and many others like me are worthy a trillion times more than any nasty sadistic religion.
The problem is with the notion of thinking that any of us CAN be ‘worth more’ than another….
if you take that notion out of the equation then the religious bigotry you describe growing up with couldnt have taken place in the first place…..
But that is what religion is about these day’s giving people a reason for being better than the next person
Face it Rich most people on this threat are better than you because unlike you, we are not so screwed up and bitter than we can’t focus on our own lifes.
I actually have more respect for a flea than I do the likes of Rich.
At least there may be something interesting with a flea.
Even though a flea can be annoying and irritating you still don’t come close.
To be honest your just too easy (and probably very loose) you a total disappointment.
Never mind dear!
One time you called me “idiot”, next time called me “dear”. The real idiot, certainly, is YOU… hehehe…
Compared to most on this thread you are nothing as we are so Much better than you.
With each comment you make you just keep proving my case.
Jock, we may not agree on absolutely every topic of debate on Pink News (in fact few if any!), but here I salute you 100 per cent. Rich is just vile for vile’s sake, and exemplifies the extremities of religious intolerance. Just like most gay people are not extremist militant fruit loops, most religious people are in fact tolerant to quite a degree. Preferring to follow a spiritualist belief I have never been religious, but it does disturb me how Christianity in the UK is being marginalised while the Islamification of our society is being allowed, nay, encouraged. Unfortunately those of Rich’s ilk serve only to further alienate Christianity to the point where it becomes socially unacceptable to even say the word “Christian” out loud. It will be a tragedy for free speech when that day inevitably arrives, and will be only a stepping stone to more draconian measures affecting our freedoms…
You can tell Rich is clever by his use of “hehehe…” in many of his comments.
You offering mate?
Along long time in Jail, with “GAY” tattooed on each of his butt cheeks.
And maybe Jesus saves on each one of them virtically. with arrows pointing to his anus
For my gay friends I make crosses made out of two dildoes
We wear it around schools etc to make sure the kids realize that religioin is pure animal excrement
I know all about this guy – he’s pathological in his hatred towards gay escorts. It’s not about the sex, it’s about trying to destroy their lives.
He’s a recidivist offender of the worst kind – he just can’t help himself. He’s put so many people through hell that he deserves everything he gets.
But sadly, he will blame the escorts for his time in prison and when he gets out he will just be twice as angry. I think that when he’s finished his jail sentence he should be deported to Uganda.
Excellent idea!! :)
I came across this guy too. Unfortunately in prison. This Chap was in open prison for some time and everyone thought he was in for defrauding a travel agent he worked for. It was only when he was released, when an officer spilt the beans that everything came to light. Cheques for a total of £30K were written to escorts and not honoured. This chap should of learnt his lesson as he was bullied and continually moaned at other prisoners. The funny thing is, he knew what he was doing and after having a rough time in jail, why the hell has he done it again? He must be the biggest fool in the world and at the time, I didn’t even notice it!
You are not an Englishman, you are a fascist. The way you thinking is fascist, for sure. Any deportation is act against Human Rights, because every human have the right to live in the country of his birth. Where is your standing for human rights? Are you selective in human rights application? I mean which rights to grant and which rights to terminate? You are a HYPOCRITE! Shame on you!
This coming from you, the person who keeps ranting about how we should be denied rights.
Oh Rich. your nothing but joke.
Kinda wishing you’d moved to Uganda where you’d clearly be much happier.
ROFL! This is THE funniest comment (Rich’s) I’ve ever read on Pink News. I’m hiccuping I’m laughing so much. OMG the vile homophobic Rich ranting about human rights. Laughing too much now – it hurts!
Oh, Rich, you are just classic. Do you know what a fascist is? Can you afford a mirror?
he’s pathological in his hatred towards gay escorts.
His behaviour does seem to have an obsessive edge. (Not that that makes him any less of a scumbag.)
How do you know about him?
I was involved in the original investigation into his activities a few years ago – I’ve spoken to about 40 of his victims and I’ve met him too. PS the photo they’ve used here is actually quite flattering.
Too right, ! I know where you are coming from!
This guy screwed over a friend of mine and then tried to blackmail him, when confronted, with treats of reporting him for rape! He should be locked away for a very long time, people like this make for some messed up people… want to get your end away for nothing then go to a sauna! A**hole!!
He’s still at it- not an escort but he grindr’d me offering 4k for sex – paid by back apparently. I’ve screen grabbed it all and got his phone number and passed to the police. What an idiot.