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  1. adam byrne 10 May 2011, 1:55pm

    Developing country my arse!

    1. The oppressed become oppressors!

  2. Helen Wilson 10 May 2011, 1:59pm

    Homophobia is killing Ugandan society not homosexuality. Any law that seeks to oppress freedom of thought and expression essentially kills off the innate freedoms of the society as a whole.

    Repression starts with a minority group who are easy to target and if the society does not stand against it, its slowly broadened out to effect everyone. What we see in this law is the beginnings of a Christian orthodoxy being established in Uganda along the lines of Saudi Arabia and Iran.

  3. Have you seen Martin Ssempa’s music video remix, they eat the Poo Poo,
    Apparently gays all eat poo poo, seems there’s nothing we enjoy more according to $hit for brains retard Ssempa.

    See here (if the link will post)

    1. I mean how could you have a serious debate with a retard as fanatical as Martin Ssempa?

      1. oi we dont like retard

        1. James wrote :” oi we don’t like retard”
          How about fcuktard then, just to be on the safe side

          1. As long as its not discriminatory

    2. That was funny though

      1. Yeah it is hilarious and ridiculous, but if you were a gay person sitting in at one of these regular anti-gay church rallies I think you might be very tempted to act straight just so you don’t get lynched on the spot by the worked up mob.

        Gays could produce specialist straight porn and hold a rally to try to defame all straight people with that just the same… however eliminating heterosexuals is nowhere on our agenda, gays simply aren’t psychopaths like these homophobic “religious” maniacs.

        1. Nah we dont have to be like them we have to do a sort of underground network where we can help gay people get out of hellholes like that

          They eat the poo poo i’m going be singing that all day!

    3. What an absurd perverse, and paranoid man,
      What an absurd perverse and paranoid country
      A Developing Country ?

    4. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 3:31pm

      Two things about that Jake Benson that I have always wondered…
      1) When he was looking for it this clip can’t have been the first thing they found, meaning they must have looked at a lot of porn to find it.
      Why? Did he enjoy it?
      2) Why hasn’t anyone in the churches, etc they have shown this rather questionable film, questioned Jake Benson over his clear obsession with all things Gay and clearly all things a little ‘poo-poo’?!

  4. Why do they alwys look so gay

    1. He’s actually very overweight and gets very sweaty especially when worked up into a frenzy preaching anti-gay hate while talking and about and showing porn to his followers, I bet his fat, sweaty crack stinks to high heaven…he probably thinks it’s irresisitable. A thoroughly disgusting creature.

      1. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 4:14pm

        Apart from feeling queasy, unable to finish my sandwich, I think that imagine has just cost me five years on some psychiatrist couch!

        1. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 5:08pm

          Oops sorry meant that image!! Doh!

          1. Sorry about that but Pastor Martin Ssempa is a real Sstinker… bring him down! down! down!

          2. Jock S. Trap 11 May 2011, 9:05am

            Definitely, Pavlos!

      2. Gross but funny

  5. Keith Lynwood 10 May 2011, 2:11pm

    I have just bought in a new clause. The death penalty for aggravated religion. All religionists will be shot.

    1. now thats the best thing I’ve heard all day ;0)

    2. *sigh* Why do people assume all Christians are the same? We’re not ALL bigots and assholes, damn it, it’s only the ones that are yelling the loudest.

  6. Adam Alexander King 10 May 2011, 2:40pm

    Keith, that is an extremely ignorant comment, and that is coming from an Athiest.

    I think most people will have something negative to say about this, which I completely disagree with.

    Take a moment to step of your thrones for a moment and think. This is actually a huge step forward for their society. Gay rights in the western world didn’t appear over night. There are steps, and this is a rather large first step, especially as it is coming from an anti-gay pastor.

    Do no forget that our societies are extremely different. What we believe is right and what another society believes is right are two completely different things. At the end of the day, it’s what they have been brought up with. How would you feel if you were suddenly forced to follow all the laws and rules of their society?

    Stop thinking of the negatives for a moment and be happy that they are actually, finally moving forward. If you prefer, they could just keep agreeing with the death penalty.

    1. They are not moving forward. The fact that this is what they’re passing laws on, when their children are dying in the streets, and the collective hand is still out to western nations to prop them up shows how backward they are as a country, and how insecure they are individually as “men”.

      The hideous pastor sounds barely more evolved than an ape, and if he really wants to know what the definition of eating sh!t is, he need only open up his Bible and carry on believing.

    2. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 2:54pm

      So as societies may be different so are each individuals response to this kind of news.
      Keith may actually feel angry enough to say what he has but with one major difference..
      Keith’s comments is as far as it goes.
      Those LGBT people in Uganda having to endure this action, these threats,this hatred in more than mere off the cuff comments.
      Keiths banter is LGBT Ugandans life.
      I would rather Keith was able to express his anger in writing than in action and can understand why he made the comment in the first place.

    3. Uganda is wrong , ugandan society is wrong and primitive, its not even a debatable issue, worthy of any more commentry. Your moronic post only highlights what a fool you are, nothing further.

  7. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 2:47pm

    All he is doing is showing that Evil stems from religion.
    As for the killing society claim, is it not them wanting to do the punishing, the killing of another human being.
    Yet again they accuse all others of the actions they themselves are doing.
    Sadly until religion is weakened in these areas life won’t change.
    On the other side of that there will always be brave souls who will stand up at cost to make a difference.
    In the end they will suffer badly as the HIV numbers increase, treatments denied through fear and a religious society yet again responsible for the preventable deaths.
    So they have the blood of the innocent on their hands.

  8. AFAIK Ssempa has previously supported the death penalty. Anyone know when he changed his mind?

    1. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 2:55pm

      Probably the rent boy he had at the weekend.
      Biggest closet case going I reckon.

      1. Spot on.

    2. paul canning 10 May 2011, 3:51pm

      He has NOT, neither has Bahati. This is the sort of media manipulation and interference which the BBC (the source for this story) and other mugs from the MSM parrot.

      1. ..and PinkNews slavishly rewrites.

  9. My hart go’s out to the poor people of Ugandan that are gay. And to the poor kids who turn out to be gay as they will have nowere to turn and meny will end up killing themselfs.

  10. The guy is a disgrace to humanity.

    As fir Uganda …. The place is just a lost cause.

  11. This is the man – sorry, pastor – who buys gay porn to show it to his ‘flock’ (including children), isn’t it?
    Such a terrific role model. . .

  12. Uganda law, Uganda’s Goverments choice. Everyone should keep their nose out of another Countries business of running.

    1. Should we keep our money out of the country’s ‘business of running’ too?
      Granted, it would probably be of use if the American evangelists stopped corrupting everyone with their financial and other resources.

    2. Jock S. Trap 10 May 2011, 4:18pm

      If a country gives aid to Uganda they have every right to poke their noses into that countries business of running.
      If they bring in such repressive laws against their own people then we are entitle not to fund that government.

      1. Jock S Trap
        Has it ocurred to you that your proposal to cease aid to Uganda might further entrench the homophobia being experienced by the very people that you purport to be in support of? This issue should be debated in a sober and mature way and now is probably the best time to shape the attitudes of Ugandans towards LGBT people. Frankly, name calling is not going to achieve much and might just undo all that has been done around the world.

        1. Jock S. Trap 13 May 2011, 10:41am

          Sorry Jospeh my life and that of any LGBT person is Never and should Never be up for debate.
          My life and those of any LGBT person is not for anybody to extinguish just to make themselves feel better about themselves.
          That is just sick.
          Any country that funds such a regime has the right to poke their nose into their business and deman where the money spent.

    3. Wim in Holland 10 May 2011, 8:28pm

      How Ugandan is this law when it is the result of the “preaching” of three anti-gay AMERICAN preachers Scott Lively, Caleb Lee Brundidge and Don Schmierer, who tried here in Uganda to realize (what is not possible in the U.S.A. anymore): the christian ideal of a gays-free society.

      1. Jock S. Trap 11 May 2011, 9:09am

        And the sooner people realise there is no such thing as a ‘gays-free society’ the better.
        Until then those sad, deluded people will carry on murdering, torturing, abusing the LGBT community, probably in the name of Religion.
        Well, that will be the excuse anyway.

  13. Helen Wilson 2 hours ago

    Homophobia is killing Ugandan society not homosexuality. Any law that seeks to oppress freedom of thought and expression essentially kills off the innate freedoms of the society as a whole.

    So we are gays objecting to straight and religious people having freedom of thought and expression?

    1. Helen Wilson 10 May 2011, 4:56pm

      That’s clearly not what I’m saying!

      By saying its not OK to be gay and we will imprison or kill you if you are, they open the Pandora’s box so next time its not OK to be atheist, liberal or a supporter of another political party ect… Its a road that can only lead to totalitarianism.

    2. de Villiers 10 May 2011, 10:19pm

      I have disagreed with several of Helen’s posts but your criticism of this one is unfair.
      I have no objection to freedom of thought, which is no more than the absence of government punishment for thinking improper thoughts.
      I support freedom of expression but that is something to be balanced in a fair and liberal society with laws preventing incitement to hatred. Where religious heterosexuals call for the imprisonment of homosexuals and to incite hatred against them, I do object to that.
      I can see nothing wrong in laws preventing such incitement even where those laws take effect to restrict the speech of religious heterosexuals over those of other groups who have no wish to make such statements.

  14. paul canning 10 May 2011, 3:48pm

    The death penalty IS in the bill, coming up for a possible vote tomorrow.

  15. “But he told AP news agency that this “was something we have moved away from”.”

    How very big of you. Now just jump 400 years and you’re might just catch up with the rest of civilisation.

    1. International aid to Uganda is something that civilised countries will be moving away from very soon,

      Uganda is a lost cause.

      So long as LGBT people are able to gain asylum in other countries, I think we should wash our hands of the rest of the Ugandan dump.

      1. That’s somewhat unfair. I agree that this whole affair is a disgrace, but I’m gay and I don’t think that /only/ gay people matter. There are a lot of people standing to lose things from taking away international aid, so you know, it’s ignorant to assume most people are in this and deserve to die for it.

        1. Quite frankly I don’t care if straight Uganda starves – after all the straight population of Uganda overwhelmingly supports this Bill.

          Why should anyone care about the fate of a population that wants us dead.

          This message needs to be be sent unequivocally to all of Uganda – Uganda needs the international community more than the international community needs Uganda. If Uganda does not gets its house in order, then the world will wash its hands of Uganda. No ifs ands or buts about it.

  16. Barbaric homophobic christianity rearing its ugly head.

    1. I do not blame christianity for Uganda’s genocidal homophobia.

      I blame the people of Uganda.

      Are they really so stupid and ignorant that they cannot reject the notion of sexual genocide?

      1. But the people of uganda are inspired by the christian preachers who teach them what they believe. It’s justified through their belief in what ‘the lord their god’ wants them to do. Don’t ask me how, I know Jesus wouldn’t have approved (well, we don’t know that exactly), but that’s the way it is. Christian preachers and the bible inspire and justify their homophobia, so I blame christianity. If you don’t know the cause of their hate, if you can’t accept that christian values cause their bigotry, how can solve it? I guess you blame german people for their anti semitism and not the german people’s belief in hllter and the n4zi ideology? I’m also guessing you’re a christian?

        1. de Villiers 10 May 2011, 10:21pm

          What religion is there to blame for the widespread persecution of gays in the atheist societies of Russia, Cuba and China?

          1. I don’t blame christianity for the homophobia in those places, although with russia it could be argued with the history of the orthodox church there. in cuba and china (and also russia now) I blame communist political leaders – but what have those countries got to do with uganda? I’m talking about uganda, keep focused villiers and stop trying to change the subject.

          2. de Villiers 11 May 2011, 12:19pm

            I question not your observation but your logic. I have no doubt that religion is used to persecute gays in Uganda. However, any suggestion that a secular country would fare better depends too much on hope. Communist societies and/or secular countries still demonstrate uncomfortable progress on equality.
            It is too easy always to blame Christianity rather than other cultural factors.

          3. You think it’s too easy to blame christ, I think it’s too easy for christians and muslims to get away with their intolerance and bigotry because of their religion. I don’t suggest that a secular, or atheist country would be any better, but uganda is neither. And I’m talking about uganda.
            IMO, you have to take each case on its own, as someone who loves the law de villiers you should know that. The homophobia in uganda is inspired and justified because of a translation of the christian belief. Therefore it is christianity that is to blame, however badly it is being translated there. Christ has blood on his hands if this bill goes through. But then, with all the wars fought in the name of ‘the christ’, or ‘jahweh’ or ‘allah’, it’s obvious the mono god concept (like all gods) likes a bit of blood.

        2. Jock S. Trap 11 May 2011, 9:12am

          Indeed Eddy.
          Reports do suggest that only when these American Preachers of Hate invaded Uganda with their warped, twisted beliefs did the Ugandan society turn.
          Christianity, it appears, is solely to blame for this country’s attitude.

      2. Wim in Holland 10 May 2011, 8:37pm

        I do blame christianity for Uganda’s genocidal homophobia, because Uganda is a 85% christian nation.

  17. Uganda is not a developing country.

    It is a backward dump.

    LGBT people in Uganda should flee (and more civilised countries must strengthen asylum laws for to make it easier for LGBT people to flee the dump that is Uganda.

    All international aid to Uganda must cease unles there are cast iron guarantees that money sent witll not be used to persecute people.

    The fact that Uganda is desperately poor is no longer relevant, In Uganda the vast majority of the population supports the death penalty for gays.

    We should not feel any responsibility towards a genocidally homophobic nation like Uganda.

  18. Jim Burroway 10 May 2011, 5:08pm

    This headline and reporting is irresponsible in the extreme. Ssempa made an off-hand comment, similar to comments that he has been making since 2009. THIS IS NOTHING NEW and shame on Pink News for being played the sucker.

    The death penalty is still in the bill, which may be brought to a vote as early as tomorrow.


  19. Uganda is a great developing country. I have had some lovely times in Entebbe. It is one of the few African countries that I have been to where I have found there to be some planning in the way the towns are structured and there seems to be thought about communities etc.
    Most of the Ugandans that I met were kind, caring and thoughtful and many had no issue with my sexual orientation.
    However, there is a schism – largely fed by extremist American evangelical Bible Colleges and churches that prey on vulnerable people and insecurities to feed their false teachings as truth. This has led to an ideology becoming the norm for most in the country which leads to exclusion of all those that do not comply with the ideology.
    It is good to see that the death penalty is not supported – but the reality is that everyone regardless of differences should be entitled to a free and unoppressed life.
    Harsh though it may be, I often feel that the best way for this to be resolved is by Africans

    1. Stu if you were black theyd have a problem.

      1. All British (and international) aid to Uganda must cease if this Bill passes. That might give Uganda the incentive to scrap this Bill in its entirety.
        I do not want a single penny of my tax money going to a country that would kill me.

    2. Yea right,
      a country where most of the populace view homosexuality as grotesque and worthy of violence . Really sounds like “kind, caring and thoughful” population. Maybe you were viewed as a very naive westerner .

    3. Stu wrote

      “Uganda is a great developing country”

      I am not sure how you equate developing, with a country which wants to pass a bill allowing the extermination of gay people.

  20. its a miracle, prise the Lard (in kind of West Bro baptist church american accent)

  21. I must say, I like all the terms these people come up with: Serial homosexual; Aggravated homosexual; suspiciously transsexual; unapologetically lesbian. Could we keep them?

  22. Mumbo Jumbo 10 May 2011, 6:56pm

    Please sign the international petition:

  23. Staircase2 10 May 2011, 7:13pm

    ‘killing the country’ my arse!

    how is it that so many people in Uganda can be so woefully stupid? And more importantly: how is it that so many of these idiots then get into positions of such power that they are able to talk about introducing such ridiculously ignorant legislation?

    They should all be ashamed of themselves – oh yeah! and sacked!

  24. It sounds to me like they are the ones killing people, not the gays. This guy is a homophobic moron. Sadly, his followers are as ignorant and homophobic as he is so he’s just preching to the choir. I certainly hope our politicians stop ALL foreign aid to Uganda until they institute human rights protections for GLBT people. These people are anythying but Christ-like.

  25. Christianity is killing Ugandans! The likes of Ssempa scream about homosexuality being un-African, well, I say that Christianity is un-African. They never heard of it before the colonisers brought the missionaries with them and enslaved the African mind with the religion of the colonists. Sadly there is no hope for Africa – the people are just too unevolved to survive in the modern wolrd

  26. This has all gone on as Bahati publicly dedicated the nation to the service of Jesus Christ, he continues to demonise gays in the name of Christ and calls them the enemy of jesus Christ , their is a church led mission is to eliminate gays from Uganda.

    1. Sorry , there is a church led mission to eliminate gays from Uganda, a similar thing happening in Kenya and other Afican countries that have had decades of ongoing evangelical church planting operations, initiated by US fundamentalist organisations charged with dispensing the enormous US aid budget there providing them with the opportunity of spreading their anti-gay, anti condom, sexual abstinence message and transforming communities street by street to “the service of Christ”… as they call it, and “the elimination of evil” and of course gays make a useful scapegoat to place the blame for a country that is in a state of collapse… if you are arresting and killing the “evil” gays it looks like you are doing something.

  27. john sharp 11 May 2011, 2:43pm

    religion kills society
    stop religious hatered now
    uganda is looking for a scape goat as they always do to hunt gays . we are born gay and will remain gays . stop all AID to homophbic regimes and arrest there presidents as soon as they set foot on free soil ad as they like stupidity inflict them equal punishment

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