I hope this mother is given some help. Such a difficult situation to be in. My heart goes out to her.
I feel sorry for his mother, however if hes not British by birth hes not our problem, simple as that. He has committed a crime and is being punished, it is to the Americans to decide what to do with him.
Firstly as far as Im aware you dont have to be ‘British by birth’ to be British.
Secondly International Human Rights law means that it isnt up ‘to the Americans to decide what to do with him’ if what they decide to ‘do with him’ contradicts fundamental Human Rights Legislation. (which it appears currently is the case)
thus spake staircase2 the fat lipped ‘oracle of belly’. I take it your single and not looking
The gay community is not homogeneous. Some of us are able to think beyond our next ‘encounter’ and actually care what governments do in our name and consider this whistle-blowing actions of this gay man, who has the right to a British passport, admirable. P.S. I do have a partner and can also spell ‘you’re’
YOUR point being? What the hell has what I wrote to staircase got to do with you? So you have a partner? He should’ve gone to specsavers.
This a site for public comment about the article. My point is that a proportion of the gay community cares about the issues reported. This relates directly to the article, unlike your response to Staircase2′s clear explanation of the issues behind the case to Daniel. Catty name-calling of contributors will only reinforce public prejudice that members of the community only focus on the trivial and the vacuous.
Worded slightly wrong, if hes not a British citzen hes not our problem. And secondly, yeah it is up to the Americans, as long as they stay within the law. Have you considered the reliability of the source concerning him being made to strip regularly. There could be a reason to it, such as suicide risk possibly. I’m sorry but I just don’t accept the image of American’s being savages.
They’ve been proven to torture people before why not now
Same-sex relationships are a crime in several countries, too. Just because a country decides something’s illegal, that doesn’t give them carte blanche to do whatever horrific things they want.
Yeah, not comparable in the slightest. It is right that whistle blowing is a crime, as you can clearly tell its wrong.
Treason is a crime, whistle-blowing on wrong doing within an organisation is not; indeed in Britain whistle-blowers have certain protections under legislation.
The fact is we are talking about someone in the military, not a civilian, it is completely different. He had no right to hand over those documents, he was in a position of trust and he completely disregarded it. He has to be punished severely or else it sets a dangerous precedent whereby soldiers think they can get away with leaking classified information, which would put lives at risk.
Apart from him being gay how is this a story for this site? His confinement and subsequent treatment is due to his involvement with the Wikileaks debacle and has nothing to do with his sexuality. AND he’s a yank, who served in the US forces, why is this William Hague’s problem?
READ the article eh? (it explains it all….)
He has not trial yet. It’s typical American lynch mob justice!
Let’s face it, they are never going to get Julian Assange, so this kid’s gonna get the rap.
Like Osama bin Laden is responsible for every terrorist action of the last 20 years, they need a donkey with which to pin the tail on.
According to Amerian law… Turning over classified documents to someone unauthorized or in this case to a foreign national is an act of treason. Why would so many care about a man who betrayed his own country to turn information about foreign relations(mostly) over to wikileaks?
Because some of us think we should know what our governments get up to. This isn’t like giving away military secrets, this is stuff everybody should have the right to know. Governments are far too secretive and will get away with whatever they can. In my mind, what Manning did was the right thing, but still, was a bloody stupid thing to do.
Agreed, its called transparent democracy. Lets face it, the US government is anything but trustworthy.
I also agree. The international community established at the Nuremburg Trials that where a government has engaged in illegal acts and breaches of human rights their soldiers are also guilty even if they are ‘only following orders’. They say that the truth is the first casualty of war, Manning is a brave man to disobey orders and leak some truth to the public about what’s really been going on.
Tell us something we don’t know, nuremberg scmunenberg.
I wonder if you’d feel the same way about someone who committed “treason” against North Korea or Iran? Probably not, because they’re “bad guy” countries. You’d probably salute them. America commits despicable acts all over the globe, and we see this man as a villain why exactly? The man’s a hero.
Humanity has produces few truly brave people who put their necks on the line and whistleblow to expose the bad stuff their elected leaders are doing in their names. I admire the bravery this young man who happens to be gay. I would like to think that some of his values as to what is right and wrong that motivated his actions may have come from his mum, who is British.
When is he actually going to be tried?
Under US law he should be jailed for his crime. (Although in this country and others some whistle-blowers have been found not guilty by courts due to their actions being for the greater good.) The problem right now is that he is being punished in ways that other remand prisoners aren’t. Remember, he hasn’t even gone on trial yet.