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  1. It’s going to be “interesting” to see what the report actually says and what Cameron thinks of it.

    Why he got a reported commissioned by a head of a Christian group (who are hardly going to view such topics neutrally) I don’t know..

    1. OutGuider 2 May 2011, 9:41pm

      Why is the head of the Mothers’ Union a man?

      1. Could be Regina..But none the less…heh heh

    2. I think this has been hyped up by the Daily Mail and the Christian group concerned. It is an INDEPENDENT study, so it has not been commissioned by the government. I have no idea why it is reported that David Cameron is expecting to see it. The head of MU, however, has been invited to head a group looking at sexualisation of children. That does alarm me, how religious groups are framing the discussion here, when there is hardly any peer reviewed study on the matter.

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 7:51am

        I have to admit this does sound more like Daily Mail and Christian meddling to me rather than politics however I agree how a religious group can help in discussions over the sexualisation of children. It may indeed be a problem on the rise but surely parents are the best judge not religious leaders.
        As for soaps, it has long been the thing to have ‘adult themes’ so really parents should be more responsible in what they want their children to watch. Having said that with the amount of violent games and films being watched by children I hardly think a kiss is really any equivalent.

        1. Paula Thomas 3 May 2011, 3:28pm

          But the study has been commissioned by the Gov. It is only independent in the sense that the Gov. is not conducting the study, although they are paying for it with our money!

      2. Mothers’ Union explicitly refutes all allegations regarding the banning of lesbian kisses on television before or after the watershed as claimed by the media this week, including in The Sun and the Daily Mail newspapers. The Bailey Review as conducted by the Department of Education is independent of the Mothers’ Union’s Bye Buy Childhood Campaign and therefore, any recourse to statements against Mothers’ Union are unfounded and should be directed to the Department of Education at this link –
        The Mothers’ Union’s Campaign is gender inclusive and is therefore, neither targeted towards or against any type of relationship and should not be expressed as such.

  2. This, if true, is appalling. A good day to bury bad news?

  3. JamieWake 2 May 2011, 8:14pm

    David Cameron – just goes to show that the tories never change. Even more prouder to stand as a lib dem candidate this year after Reading this – even prouder to have been open about my sexuality in my campaign

    1. Good luck! :)

      1. JamieWake 2 May 2011, 8:23pm

        Thanks Jae

        1. But the Lib Dems are a joke… not least because when the chips were down they agreed to form a coalition with this butterfaced monstrosity.

          1. Charles Gormley 2 May 2011, 10:22pm

            How can you be proud to stand as a libdem candidate when you are in coalition with that shower? I am sure you are a nice decent person, but frankly, I hope your party (and I guess, by extension, your campaign for election) get your arse kicked wherever it is you are standing.

          2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 7:59am

            That was the democratic process Aerobic1.
            Even though it wasn’t enough to get an outright win the Tories beat Labour.
            Also the Lib Dems did negotiate with both main parties.
            The referendum of the voting system being the key point.
            Labour wouldn’t agree to the referendum on voting change at the time.
            Plus the Lib Dems had were very wary of Labour after ditching them in 1997 when they had a similar agreement on voting change.
            Funny how Now Labour have changed there mind on AV.

    2. de Villiers 2 May 2011, 9:31pm

      DC has made no comment on this. It just goes to show that the criticisers of the Right never change.

      1. he is “yet to express a view on the report”….for or against???? If some of us (gay and straight) are still offended by gay people kissing in a soho pub where there aren’t supposed to be any children then it’s quite credible that some people would also want same sex kisses banned from TV and that includes DC …it’s not hard to simply say to PN that the report is wrong!

    3. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 7:53am

      So now we listen to the Daily Mail crap?

      1. Turns out it’s just that: Daily Filth crap

  4. Don’t forget to sign Cameron’s attempt to scrap the Equality Act:

    1. Here is the PM’s speech on deregulation (i.e. scrapping the Equality Act)

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:09am

        He’s not talking about scrapping the Equailty Act Cleggy. He’s talking about some of the ridiculous regulations that Labour introduced. He promised that he would give the public a say on every regulation and he is doing what he promised but far from encouraging scrapping, he’s encouraging us to get involved and how each bill can been acted on, weither keeping it the same, improving it. It is unlikely the Equality Act will suffer because most of the regulation is more about Health and Satety issues. Some are pathetic ie children not being allowed to play conkers in the playground etc.
        It actually makes a change for a government to give us the oportunity to have our say but it is up to us to make sure we are heard.

      2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:10am

        Oh, and I filled out the form when it first came out and have encouraged everyone I know to do the same and will continue to do so.

  5. Why don’t they go the whole hog and put a warning onscreen before these programmes start. Warning the following contains scenes of smoking, talking and other behaviour you will see if you go outside and open your eyes.

  6. So Cameron does one of those ‘It get’s better’ ads and then (allegedly) goes and supports a bill that would ban same sex kissing before 9pm. Hmmm how does he think it’s going to get better for gay people if this happens? What a f***ing hypocrite if this is true. I did say before the election that leopards don’t change their spots. Seems, unfortunatly I might just have been right. Mind this story couldn’t have come at a better time, 3 days before a bi-election. One more reason to vote against them!

    1. de Villiers 2 May 2011, 9:32pm

      > What a f***ing hypocrite if this is true.
      Slow down. It’s getting a bit like the Harry Enfield righteous brothers on here.

    2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:11am

      This is according to the Daily Mail. The Prime Minister hasn’t commented yet. Are we now to suddenly believe the Daily Mail now?

      1. They choose to believe the Daily Mail when it suits their agenda. How convenient.

        1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 10:20am

          The Daily Mail are used to whipping up hysteria when they feel they need a following regardless of if it’s true or not.
          How many stories recently have we here talked about where the Daily Mail has deliberately left out material or reported things wrong to suit there readers?
          So now we are to believe them?
          Wish people would make up their minds!

      2. Absolutely let’s see what the report says and camerons genuine comments are before barracking him – speculate and discuss by all means but only attack on his real views…

  7. Ashlee Kelly 2 May 2011, 8:23pm

    If they are gonna ban gay kisses because it could be ‘damaging to childern’, then they should get rid of near enough every soap storyline out there. Because I’m pretty sure that murder, rape, drug abuse, petty crime, extra-marital affairs (or just sex in general), well…pretty much everything is more harmful than a gay kiss. At least showing homosexuality on soaps will make it seem more normal to people that would otherwise only get their views on it from tabloids.

  8. Helen Wilson 2 May 2011, 8:29pm

    This would be the equivalent of a pre watershed section 28 type ban of gay people on TV.

    If we are not allowed on TV before 9pm, will we be banned from public places too?

    1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:12am

      Helen, this is a Daily Mail report.

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:13am

        This is the Daily Mail whipping up religious attitude in support of it’s reader. If they can’t win in the courts then write a piece and Hope it comes true. I doubt there is any truth it at the moment.

    2. I’ve got to agree with this, there’s definitely something going on. Sexalisation of young people reviews by the home office could lead to somekind ban on SS kisses etc on pre watershed progs …a lot of heteros are uncomfotable with gay affection on TV and many would prefer their children not to see it. Will SS kisses have to be downscaled to holding hands?? Lets face it there’s so little images of gay affection on TV it won’t take much to scare the advertisers and channels to reduce it even further. Even if Cameron doesn’t go with a recommendation like this what is the govt actually doing to increase gay images on TV..the lack of this is just as significant as putting a ban on it…..simply keeping your head down for or against isn’t good enough, he’s gotta help promote gay images on TV….when did we ever see Tory gay MP kiss on TV(in public), it’s ok to say you have a civil partner as long as he/she is kept hidden..

    3. @Helen, The Daily Mail article appeared to be doing just what it did best – whipping up tensions in the so-called marginalised christian debate. The Daily Mail article appeared to be timed coincide with the CLC (Christian Legal Centre) attempting to claim that ‘aggressive’ secularism is pushing christians into the shadows.

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 2:32pm

        In others words what Christians can’t get through the courts they are trying to force on the government.
        Here’s hoping that backfires!

  9. perhaps he could consider banning gay kissing at all before 9pm…you know in case kiddies see and have to be told that some people are in fact gay!

    but seriously i love the sophie sian story and this would be such a slap in the face to all positive gay storylines in soaps

  10. So Bugs Bunny would be banned before 9pm?

  11. Mumbo Jumbo 2 May 2011, 8:38pm

    Needless to say, the Mother’s Union are a Christian outfit:

    And here is the story as reported in the Daily Heil:

    Don’t trust the shiny-faced posh boy with your rights.

  12. Deeside Will 2 May 2011, 8:41pm

    Seeing same sex couples kissing on TV could make children grow up gay, just as seeing only opposite sex couples kissing made me grow up straight – I don’t think.

  13. Have you all actually read the stories properley yet.
    He hasn’t commented on it.
    From what I can gather it’s about any kind of sexual content.
    There is no way they are going to say you can have one type of kissing and not another.

    And whilst I’m one – The equality act scrapping – isn’t just a question they are asking on the red tape website – which they do for every new law?
    “Tell us what you think should happen to this Act and why, being specific where possible:
    •Should they be scrapped altogether?
    •Can they be merged with existing regulations?
    •Can we simplify them – or reduce the bureaucracy associated with them?
    •Have you got any ideas to make these regulations better?
    •Do you think they should be left as they are?
    Stop Tory bashing for the sake of it! They haven’t done too bad so far! Perhaps they have learnt from their previous horrendous mistakes!!

    1. what planet do you live on?

      1. Your point?

    2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:16am

      I just wonder after all this time why we are to believe the Daily Mail all of a sudden.
      Talk about being selective.

  14. The red tape website is the sort of website only the nasty party would think of doing. It looks like is been put together by by stuck up Tory twats!

  15. This is a story about speculation about a made up story.

    What a great pity that PinkNews joins in.

    1. Exactly what I wanted to say but you said it much more succinctly!
      I’m desperately searching for the quote where he has said he wants to ban gay kissing before nine.

    2. Helen Wilson 2 May 2011, 9:27pm

      How is it speculation? Cameron asked the mothers union to do the report and they have published findings!

      Its nothing like speculation, more like Cameron’s two faced nature at work!

      1. Where does this say that he commisioned a report about gay kissing on TV before the watershed?
        The government has commissioned an independent review into the regulation of television content and into the future of the 9pm watershed by the chief executive of the Mothers’ Union, Reg Bailey.

        Newspaper reports claim that the review could recommend that gay kisses should be banned before the 9pm watershed and that the recommendations have the support of the prime minister.

      2. No findings have been published at all yet. It is pure Daily Mail speculation. Check your facts.

        1. Helen Wilson 2 May 2011, 9:52pm

          Look on the MU website and they have even got a Tory MP to submit a early day motion to implement the MU findings!

          1. The MU and other extremist groups like Christian Concern, CARE, Front Page Campaign etc have supporters from fronge Tory MPs. It is alarming, however, it does not mean it was commissioned by the government. You are right to make lots of noise about it though as the MU is a homophobic group, and its African affilliates, viciously so.

        2. The govt have said “Parents express real concern about children being pressured into growing up too quickly, to become consumers or sexualised adults earlier than is appropriate. The Government have therefore made a commitment to take action to protect children from excessive commercialisation and premature sexualisation” – it depends really on what they mean by premature sexualisation and what committment means??? Isn’t a bit naive to think that there isn’t pressure to keep the issue of sexual orienation quiet to under 16 yr olds

          1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 12:49pm

            The whole problem about this so called ‘report’ is what age child are they talking about?
            Under 10?
            In which case it is the parents responsibilty to say what a child watches.
            Soaps contain adult themes anyway regardless of a same sex kisses.
            If a parent allows them to watch them they have expect some questions may well be asked.
            Is it right that a parent allows a child to watch adult themes but would rather it was the TV channel remove everyday life to please the child and the parent.
            Yet the parent is happy to watch in the first place.
            Over 10?
            Then I’m sorry but surely such stories are relevent to the growing of that child.
            However it still is parental chose to allow them to watch….

          2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 12:53pm

            Are parents really saying that they would rather black out certain aspects of real life so they don’t have to explain.
            Yet again the ’embarrassment’ of the adult is in question not whats best for the child.
            I understand there is a growing problem with sexualisation of children with regards clothes, magazines etc.
            Companies should take more responsibily but surely whyen it comes down to TV programs that is the respnsibilty of the parent.
            If it was true then they are using the cowards way out of parenting into the blame culture Labour left behind.
            This would make it actually the parents fault not TV soaps.
            Maybe parents need to take back the concept of responsibility over the child and let them grow.

          3. JST – I agree and hope that there isn’t a move to say by some that perhpas showing gay kisses in soaps , leading to jumping into bed of people of the same sex doesn’t get included in what they mean by not allowing children to grow up to soon..

          4. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 2:38pm

            Yeah, here’s hoping, though to be honest if it was full on romp scenes at 7.30pm I would say ok it’s not right but just a kiss and some affection hardly disrupts society.
            I do think this is just typical Daily Mail hot air, the likes that Jan Moir and Melanie Phillips like to spew but is anyone really listening.
            We are evolving as a society and christians dictating there discriminating morals just don’t watch any more.

    3. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:17am


  16. I thought it’s quite a good idea if it does actually reduce bureacracy and save the country money on some of the old out dated rules and regulations.

    As it says on the site……………..

    This site is designed to promote open discussion of ways in which the aims of existing regulation can be fulfilled in the least burdensome way possible. The presence of a particular regulation or law on this website should not be read as implying any intention on the part of the Government to remove that regulation or law from the statute book. The purpose of this exercise is to open government up to the public…………….

    I’m no twat – as far as I know…

    1. “I’m no twat – as far as I know”

      So you admit, you are a Tory?

      You said; “Stop Tory bashing for the sake of it! They haven’t done too bad so far! Perhaps they have learnt from their previous horrendous mistakes!”

      They have already scrapped a large part of the Equality Act that would of considerably supported gay’s:

      1. theotherone 3 May 2011, 12:55am

        much as I like to tory bash the Equality Act would have made it impossible to employ Minorities in the workplace as the act of employing them could have been seen as discrimination against majority groups in the workplace.

        Trust me, I’m an Employer and ACAS had pleaded with Labour not to go ahead with the Equality Bill as it would have ended Workplace Equality overnight.

  17. Will they ban opposite sex kisses before the 9pm watershed too?…otherwise it’s blatant anti-gay discrimination and must be challenged as it would infringe this countries equalities legislation.

    1. Pavlos, exactly my thoughts as well. Will David Cameron ban Heterosexual kisses before 9pm?

    2. It does say in the article

      “is expected to recommend that sexually suggestive scenes currently allowed before the 9pm watershed”

      The Daily Snail just uses the Lesbian example to cause a bit of controvery.It doesn’t suggest anywhere that it is only gay kisses that are going to get cut.

      1. Certainly not all gay or straight kisses are sexually suggestive, though all gay kisses would probably be seen as sexually suggestive to anti-gay homophobes.

        Who would be making the decisions about whether a kiss was sexually suggestive?

        Maybe a kiss is just romantic or a kiss of friendship or consolation, a kiss of happiness or sadness even a final kiss goodbye.

        If there actually is a proposal to ban depictions of gay kissing (or kissing generally gay or straight before 9pm to comply with equalities legislation) then we must oppose such peculiar censorship born of a very unrealistic, unromantic and a very twisted form of morality.

        1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 10:43am

          Good point Pavlos.
          Not forgetting in many countries men kiss other men as a greeting to. It’s only Christianity that deems this to be wrong and tries to influence others into thinkingthe same.
          Are we to go back to believing showing affection in public is branded immoral?
          I hope not.
          It amazes me that people that have Us believe they are purer than pure are the ones who seem to see sex in everything they see.

          1. My own homophobic father was unable or unwilling to accept that gay men can and do have romantic relationships, he lamented my missing out on the romance that he wrongly thought only opposite -sex couples could find.

            Really this is about anti-gay groups who like to over-sexualise same sex relationships and try to portray gays as very one dimensional sex obssessives, these members of the anti-gay industry really don’t want acknowledgement in the media that same-sex relationships can be and are are equally as romantic and loving as opposite-sex relationships., it’s so much harder or them to demonise romantic same-sex love. A kiss is still a kiss.

          2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 11:57am

            Yeah, it’s sad.
            It is of course the real reason why they want to deny us Equal Marriage and the like because they don’t want to view us as ‘just like them’.
            They want the right to carry on assuming, not actually knowing, what we are like so they can label and use their ‘right’ to discriminate against us.
            It seems Equality isn’t all about the LGBT community wanting to be treated like everyone else. To them it’s about making sure we don’t come across as being human like them.
            That in the name of religion.
            It’s Very sad.

  18. If he actually supports a ban, then, let him support a ban on straight people kissing on tv before 9 p.m. as well as bedroom scenes. There’s a very simple solution to this. Just flash a warning on the screen before the programme airs and…to those who are offended and think children will be brainwashed by seeing two gay people kiss, then switch the channel, or turn it off until the show is over.

    Censorship is oppressive and is suppression of free speech. There are far worse things seen on tv before 9 p.m., violence being one of them. Cameron had better be careful if he’s going to support a discriminating ban singling out one group of people and not others. Shame on him and the tories if he does. If that happens, it will convince me that the tories can’t be trusted when it comes to equality.

  19. Lets all start a twitter campaign and kiss in demonstration on the basis of something that someone from Corrie says about something that the Daily Mail has made up. I think thats how tabloid social media works now days isn’t it? …. as I said, what a great pity that PinkNews makes editorial decisions to increase internet tittle tattle instead of reporting news.

    1. Whats worse is people don’t take the time to actually read the detail! Just jump on the bandwagon cause if the Tories are involved and its against gay people it must be true!
      We just come across as moaning wingers!
      I’ve sat and watched my friends retweet stuff today without actually clicking on the link to read the story – Just retweet the headline…

      1. I like Rob :)

        1. Why thank you! I like Toby!
          Good to see some intelligent points for once instead of the usual pick one of these off the list of stereotypical things a gay person says if it involves, David Cameron, The Coalition, Student Fees, The public sector, gay people, the Daily Mail, Dan Wooton!

        2. Although I do hate the Daily Mail most of the time. – Although their ipad App is great -it’s just a shame its that paper.

      2. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:29am

        Must admit I am a bit disappointed in PinkNew’s reporting of this article esp since there info seems to have come from the Daily Mail.

        What is it they are reporting?
        The Daily Mail’s blatant mis-information and bad reporting or just to add to this so far non-story?

  20. de Villiers 2 May 2011, 9:35pm

    This thread is insane. Prime Minister makes no comment on gay kiss. Cue outrage from gay contributors that Prime Minister seeks to ban gay kissing on television.

    1. …but don’t you understand? someone from corrie said something about nothing. That’s important news.

  21. They should ban that shiny faced xxxxxx

  22. “The government has commissioned an independent review into the regulation of television content and into the future of the 9pm watershed by the chief executive of the Mothers’ Union, Reg Bailey.”

    Relevant questions are: Who commissioned the so-called ‘independent’ review. Why was that organisation chosen, rather than Ofcom?

  23. Jodie McGuinness 2 May 2011, 10:46pm

    this is so stupid, so what if two people who kiss are same sex.
    really it should be shown at any time to teach young kids not to be prejudice towards homosexuality!

    1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 8:29am

      According to the Daily Mail.

  24. There are three stories here:
    1) Young actress tweets in support of equality
    2) Fringe group tries to use national concern about sexualisation of children to stir up anti-gay prejudice while giving misleading impression of PM’s agreement; is assisted by major newspaper more interested in page views than in accurate reporting
    3) Fringe religious groups use Big Society to gain influence.

    No. 1 is good news, and scarcely surprising. Young people are committed to equality.

    That is one reason that No. 2 is highly unlikely to be a successful strategy. Will we see stricter rules on representation of sexuality pre-9pm? Possibly. Will these rules distinguish between opposite-sex and same-sex couplings? Almost certainly not.

    The real story is no. 3. In every part of the public sector, religious organisations are moving in to fill the gaps left by cuts. We must insist that public services remain secular, and make sure that loonies do not start to gain get a hearing because of our silence.

    1. Thank you, @atalanta. Most sober comment on this thread.

    2. Excellent comment.

    3. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 10:22am

      Excellent comment atalanta.
      A bit of common sense.

    4. Wonderful! What a shame it took a comment to find the real story.

  25. Am i right in thinking this would be illegal under equality/human rights laws anyway?

  26. Someone is posting as me again probally someone I bitched slapped. Imitation is the sincerest firm if flattery punk.

  27. Ed Johnson 3 May 2011, 7:40am

    Absolute rubbish. As for this ‘Corrie’ star, don’t you have anything else to do, like your hair?

  28. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 7:44am

    So a Daily Mail report? Yeah right, I doubt there’s any truth in it and as said the Prime Minister is yet to express an opinion.

    More Daily Mail ficton people. I’m certainly not going to take too much by it until I hear it from the ‘horses’ own mouth.
    So now PinkNews reports on something the Daily Mail is saying. Please see this for what it is.. ie The Daily Mail.
    I repeat I doubt there’s any truth in this.

    1. A source close to the inquiry said: ‘It is hard to protect children in the internet and mobile-phone age but we have to do something.

      ‘For some parents, what has been considered acceptable in the past – such as that Brookside kiss – is not appropriate for children to see early in the evening.’

      a soure close to the enquiry very likely means Number 10 – if you think this kind of stuff ends up in the Mail (and the sun) on the basis of a government source without Cameron’s press people knowing and endorsing it then you have little idea of how the media works

      this is cameron sending a message to the core tory vote, whilst not actually getting too close, whether it actually happens or not will likely depend on how much noise is made – thats how spin doctors work

      anyone who think cameron is a friend to the lgbt community is living in a dream world – just look at their voting records before they realised they had to pretend to be living in the modern world to get elected

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 10:31am

        What rubbish.
        This is nothing more than the Daily Mail whipping up hysteria to aid it’s reader.
        Nothing more nothing less.
        I very doubt it’s had a whiff of a politican near it.
        Also ‘A close source’ doesn’t even suggest a politcian.
        It suggest’s according to the inquiry.
        Lets not scaremonger on the basis of a Daily Mail report.
        It as a publication has about as much facts as a ‘healthy’ McDonalds menu.
        Old news doesn’t sell newspapers. Lies, conspiracies and scaremongering do… for some reason.
        It’s why I stopped buying newpapers long ago.

  29. A Tory homophobic ? Universe just imploded >>

  30. Any comment from Stonewall? Aren’t they supposed to be monitoring positive images of gay people on TV and I include same sex kisses before 9pm as one of those positive images…This may all be daily mail hype but I’d prefer to complain now rather than wait until the other side wins…It’s still pretty hard to trust the Tories on LGBT issues ! Just wish I could see anywhere on the web that the mother’s union is actually pushing for this something to do with the bye buy childhood thing? there’s not much to go on from this artcile

  31. If I remember rightly, I got quite offended when I read this so called actress say she only wanted to be a ‘nice looking’ lesbian. It seems she is on a popularity bandwagon. Why on earth is her twitter comment the top news story today? PinkNews, this is dreadful, you’ve got to admit?

  32. I’d be more impressed by the minds behind Coronation St if they didn’t just show two us a lesbian couple which are really only designed to titillate audiences. Apart from the gay role Brooke Vincent is PAID to play what exactly has she done for us lately? I wouldn’t worry too much dear, I’m sure the scenes you’ll inevitably play in panto when your FHM cover girl career nosedives won’t be cut.

    1. Feeling bitter today?

      1. Not in the least Eddy, you feeling monosyllabic today? You’re usually all over other people’s posts like Tiny Tim on a Christmas ham, why so slow today? W@nkers cramp given you repetitive strain syndrome? Never mind, gives us grownups a chance to talk amongst ourselves.

        1. Galadriel1010 4 May 2011, 2:43pm

          ‘Feeling’, ‘bitter’ and ‘today’ are all polysyllabic.

  33. I sniff reactionary groups promoting an agenda. Let’s wait to see how Call-Me-Dave actually pronounces. I can’t see him getting embroiled in such nonsense, regardless of his private tastes.

    1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 12:01pm

      I must admit Riondo, this is exactly how I felt.
      Personally i think he’s got more important things to deal with than this.
      I can’t see him getting wrapped up with it either.
      Guess we’ll see but all this is now is the Daily Mail hoping.
      Nothing more, nothing less.

  34. There are plenty of pictures of David Cameron kissing his wife out there if you do a Google search, nutbags could equally say these photographs are sexually suggestive and that children should be protected from seeing them too I suppose.

    1. And of course at the Royal wedding, everyone was waiting for the BIG KISS. Imagine if you could only watch that after 9pm.

      1. Jock S. Trap 3 May 2011, 2:41pm

        And we got two… Saucy mare, ban then, ban then.
        Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it.
        Not sure what the Daily Mail hope to achieve but don’t think it’ll get them far.

  35. Why do tory supporters never admit their party are homophobic? The tories are homophobic, get over it. We all know how members of the cabinet have voted over the last ten years in regard to LGBT equality. I don’t have a problem with gay tories – LGBT equality isn’t everything – but just be honest with yourself and who you are voting for. I know labour passed many laws for our equality (obviously only because the EU told them to), but have the tories done anything yet for our equality? Just asking?

    The biggest joke about this to me is the government commissioned the ‘Mother’s Union’ to review the 9pm watershed. LOL. Why not just ask the church of England, or the muslim council, contact the pope, they’d all have a similar view. Or maybe just get a psychic to contact Mary Whitehouse and see what she thinks?

    No kissing before 9pm! We’re British! Oh please, get me out of this country. But then the question is, where in the world where you move to?

    1. What has this government done for us?

      1. Set up a consultation to legalise gay marriage, allowing religious groups to perform ceremonies if they wish to

      2. Made homophobic bullying in schools a top priority

      3. Kept all measures from the equalit act relating to discrimination on the grounds of sexuality

      4. Taking action to stop refugees being deported based on their sexuality.

      They’ve been in power for a year. Yes, they have a dreadful record on lbgt issues, but give them a chance. Tories attitudes to social issues are massively different than they used to be.

  36. Yes, if this is true, then it’s truly shameful (and worrying).

    Why just ban gay kissing before the watershed? Surely, this will be in violation of Equalities legisation, no?

    And, shame on the LibDems if they turn a blind eye to this.

  37. MothersUnion 3 May 2011, 2:09pm

    Thank you to AdrianT for pointing out this is an independent study. Although Reg Bailey is heading up the Review, it is run by Dept for Education and not Mothers’ Union. Our campaign, Bye Buy Childhood, is gender inclusive not targetted towards or against any type of relationship.
    The readers of Pink News, more than other groups, would understand issues of equality, and therefore why we do not select our Chief Executive on gender :-).

    1. Independant study, you mean as in not biased? Pope heads review, but it’s independant and not biased towards a catholic agenda! David Cameron heads review but its independant and not biased to a tory agenda! Rowan Williams heads review, but its independant and not biased to a church of england agenda! Oh please ‘MothersUnion’, do you think the people who read this website are stupid. Have you ever searched for the word homosexuality on your website? And you think that you’re an inclusive organisation? Yeah right.
      Mothers Union = christian organisation who preach the word of Christ whilst pretending to do charity work.
      The tories should have just got rowan williams to head the study. Virtually the same thing.
      Who the hell voted the tory ‘christian alliance’ into power? Oh I forgot, no one did. They didn’t win the election. They had to wait until the lib dems would form a coalition with them to get into downing street.

      1. Oh wait, there you go…….

      2. The Mother’s Union has put forward this helpful response:

        03/05/2011: Clarification on reports published in print and online 1st and 2nd May 2011.

        Mothers’ Union explicitly refutes all allegations regarding the banning of lesbian kisses on television before or after the watershed as claimed by the media this week, including in The Sun and the Daily Mail newspapers. The Bailey Review as conducted by the Department of Education is independent of the Mothers’ Union’s Bye Buy Childhood Campaign and therefore, any recourse to statements against Mothers’ Union are unfounded and should be directed to the Department of Education at this link –
        The Mothers’ Union’s Campaign is gender inclusive and is therefore, neither targeted towards or against any type of relationship and should not be expressed as such.

  38. Galadriel1010 3 May 2011, 3:12pm

    I’ll trust the Daily Mail when Hell freezes over.

    It’s worth noting that this recommendation, if it is indeed part of the report, is only one part of it, and that Cameron supposedly hasn’t seen it yet. I don’t trsut him either, but I’m not going to condemn him for an alleged soundbite that could have been about any part of the report, the whole thing, or nothing at all.

  39. how is this country supposed to move forward and say it is modern and free thinking when issues so small as a same sex kiss are constanly making headlines! im sorry but homosexuality is part of the world and kids are going to see this no matter what – unless mof course u keep them locked up in a cellar! it is so much more common these days for families to have one if not more homosexual members!even numbers of same sex parented families are rising daily!
    if britain wants to prove itself in the world,then it really must grow up and deal with it!!

    1. Yeah right 3 May 2011, 7:57pm

      families ALWAYS had a gay member of the family. they just pretended otherwise.

  40. Typical Daily Wail cr@p. They love to get people all outraged – and often about hypothetical situations. I’ll only comment on Cameron’s views if and when he does make them known.
    And no, I don’t trust the DM’s alleged source.

  41. OK people need to cut the c*ap. The conservatives commissioned a christian organisation to look into sexualisation of young people, how could ANYONE not realise that we would be the target for such a report.

    This is what always happens, any time the govt (either lab or con) gives a religious group a responsibility they turn round and attack lgbt people, single parents and atheists.

    So please all you tory apologists cut the bs, if you think david cameron is not smart enough to have realised a christian group would attack gays straight away given the chance, then you are as deluded as he is.

    1. Linda Papadopoulos, Sexualisation of Young People Review. Home Office, 2010 – how does this fit in…I wish someone could clarify what report/reviews etc are going on here? Beware of what at the moment???

  42. Andy O'Malley 3 May 2011, 7:54pm

    the equality bill came into force on 1st Oct 2010 which would make it impossible to enact this change without banning all kisses of any kind before 9pm. This is covert homophobia and should not be allowed to go unchallenged.

  43. I don’t think this is true. Cameron has always been supportive for gay rights…

    1. Yeah, because voting AGAINST repealing Section 28 in 2003 is SO supportive of gay rights. -_-

      1. Jock S. Trap 5 May 2011, 8:01am

        Trouble is we’re not in 2003 lex, this is 2011 and it’s 2011 plus that is important.

      2. de Villiers 5 May 2011, 3:22pm

        Cheap and empty sarcasm.

  44. The Lib Dems won’t let something like this happen. There won’t be a ban. Mark my words!

    1. You mean like the tuition fees saga?

  45. If cameron is so supportive of lgbt equality, then his silence is deafening, when he could be disproving the supposed mail allegations. And why is he wasting more taxpayers money on this stupid commission? like the stupid one on what makes us happy, when folk is losing their homes.

    1. de Villiers 5 May 2011, 3:21pm

      Silence as to what? A newspaper makes unfounded comments which the PM has not made and of which he probably does not know. And even if he did know them, there is no reason as to why should he comment upon this particular unfounded comment as opposed to all the other hundreds.

      1. well i disagree, you’re wrong, i believe he should, if he really is supportive of equality as he claims, also why another waste of funds on a stupid commission?

  46. If we just sit on the side lines and wait to see the outcome of this who knows where it will lead? Over the past ten years or so in this country laws have been passed that have consequently been twisted and abused to suit other situations, i.e. the terror laws, council snopping on people etc etc etc. I admit that Labour are as guilty of this as the rest of them. But at least their laws are not aimed at the gay community alone.
    If we wait for this to come to head we could have the same happen to this. Ban kissing on the television up to the watershed, could go on to ban kissing in the street for same sex couples. That is why I have always defended the cruising community , it is their right to meet, not the sex that has always been the issue, stop that and where will that lead to. Back to pre 2003 sexual offences act and illegal to meet in the street.
    Over reacting? Possibly, but I have in the past, been accused of living in the past too much on these comments boards. But I have lived through a few Tory governments and seen the hate that they have towards people and the double standards that are rife through out their party. I have many tory friends , young and old, and the racism and homophobia that is part of their normal language still shocks me to this day, and yet when confronted with any minority, they are nice as pie and as polite as an old lady on a cake stall at a WI meeting. it’s the back room banter that you have to worry about when it comes to the tories. This vein of hate runs strong and true , and the young tories joining the band wagon , soon start to spout it out behind closed doors.
    If the tories get into power for a second term , we will get , the same as what happen with all other governments, that is, start off ok , then when things have started to smooth out a bit and the dust has settled, they start to raise policies that have been festering for years in the dark, and that what will happen here. It proved it with the poll tax, and it will happen again, with other agenda they have.
    The gay community sits on it laurels at its own danger. The laws that are made now , are easily changed., and if we drop out of Europe, and that’s on the back burner, we are shagged.
    I have already written to NO 10, via the web site re the same sex kissing issue and urge you all to the same. Don’t wait, remember deep down the tories are the WWWW party, White, Well, Wedded and Working, and anything out of this remit is considered an inconvience and not worth their time.
    And remember a few gay Mps sitting on top of the pile, does not change a parties ideals, it just helped getting them into power.

    1. de Villiers 5 May 2011, 3:19pm

      I’ll start to plan the emergency escape route for when the black shirts start knocking on the door.

      1. you must live in middle england?

  47. Why would you subject your children to the soap operas?

  48. Lets hope he goes ahead with the ban.

  49. Tom-Daniel 5 May 2011, 12:37am

    OMG! Why should the government control this? If there are parents who for some reason does not which their kids to see a same-sex kiss, then don’t let them watch (not that I support that method). I think that if the child is old enough to watch Corrie, EastEnders, Emmerdale or Hollyoaks, its old enough to “handle” a same-sex kiss. For heaven’s sake, we live in 2011…

    1. Jock S. Trap 5 May 2011, 8:03am

      Don’t believe what you read in the Daily Mail esp when PinkNews reports according to the Daily Mail.

  50. Gay Daily Mail Reader 8 May 2011, 7:11pm

    Doctors, a soap shown after the 1 O’Clock news featured gay characters including Dr. Simon Bond and paramedic Will Duncan who were seen kissing without provoking a response from ‘Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells’. We have come a long way some Kirk and Uhuru kissing in Star Trek in 1968 but even today people find inter-racial kissing, let slone same sex kissing offensive.

  51. So are they going to ban ALL kissing including straights? Oh and what about all the pre-watershed violence, sex etc?

  52. Sounds like some want an argy no matter who said or wanted what. Sort of fish wives law.

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