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Last known gay holocaust survivor to receive France’s top honour

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  1. Chutneybear 27 Apr 2011, 10:57am

    Flaps :)

    A brave man, shame they were not recognised earlier.

  2. Jock S. Trap 27 Apr 2011, 11:36am

    Another brave soul deserving. It is shameful that it took so long but then it is shameful that Gay people seem to be forgotten when it comes to the Holocaust yet is just as important to history and reason never to forget.

  3. Holocaust is a general title and I don’t think that gay people have been forgotten at all.
    At the moment I am playing music on a deck made by a company called Pink Triangle.
    We wouldn’t have had it, and I wouldn’t be listening to music on one of the best turntables ever made, if it was for the rememberance of gay people and the holocaust.

    1. With all the best will in the world, I hardly think the brand name of a niche-market electronic device is evidence that gay Holocaust victims haven’t generally been overlooked.

  4. It has taken way too long to recognize gay people who died in the holocaust. Even today people deny gay people were sent to concentration camps. This took way to long to happen but I am happy it finally happened.

  5. The muslim council of Britain boycotted holocaust memorial day between 2003-2007 because it recognised gay victims. Yet we still give these people money.

    1. OMG, I hade no idea the muslim community in the UK were that openly Bigoted, terrrible the hatred in Europe towards Gays and Jews now

      1. Dunno if Muslim council of Britain represents the wider muslim community, but it is the definately the case that the institutions of the muslim faith in this country are extremely bigoted.

  6. I like that a gay man got a medal from Nancy.

  7. Eddy - the original one, from 2007 on 27 Apr 2011, 2:34pm

    News like this seriously makes one wish to live in France – a truly civilised and well-regulated country, the capital of which is run by a much-admired gay mayor.

    1. Yes, but France still has it’s prejudices- Burkha’s anyone?

      1. Sam Maloney 28 Apr 2011, 8:57am

        Piffle: it’s not asking too much for citizens in a free country to show their faces. Banning the Burkha isn’t a sign of prejudice, it’s an effort to instill some sense of openness and responsibility– I’d wager most Muslim women are secretly thrilled to cast off the barbaric symbols of a medieval mind.

      2. de Villiers 28 Apr 2011, 9:10pm

        There is no ban specifically on the burkha. There is a ban on -all- religious head and face coverings.

        It is necessary to defend the secularity of the public space in order to defend liberalism and the values of the Republic.

    2. Yeah, France has its bigotry. I lived there for a year and the level of unconcious racism and homophobia is much higher than in the UK or Australia. It’s just like assumptions in conversations, you know? Like they use their word for f#g all the time and cannot be dissuaded from using it, and way before the burka was banned it was normal for a french person to be confused and upset when they saw a ‘native’ french girl in a hijab (“I don’t mind muslims living in my town, but why are they making French women into muslims?!”).
      Please don’t be under any illusions – the UK is doing very well in this area just keep at it, people!

      1. de Villiers 28 Apr 2011, 9:11pm

        France is more conservative than England. But at least the French are honest about it. I have seen just as much bigotry in England but it is latent and hidden. It is English hypocrisy at its worst – not to say anything openly but to make quiet, knowing remarks about it in private.

  8. paul canning 27 Apr 2011, 5:03pm

    You can watch an interview with Brazda here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-1uFsOXWhQ

  9. David Myers 28 Apr 2011, 7:10am

    What is not commonly known is that when the Allies liberated the death camps near the end of the war, all prisoners except the pink triangle prisoners were released. The Pink traiangle prisoners continued to be incarcerated in the same camps for months and sometimes years under the rationalization that they were legitimately incarcerated under the provisions of the German Penal Code – Paragraph 175 which was still in place in Germany up until March 10, 1994 when it was finally repealed in a newly unified Germany. The decision to keep the pink triangle prisoners in the concentration camps was made by the American occupation. Imagine the dispair and hopelessness for the pink triangle prisoners after seeing everyone else released. It surely must have finished off some of them from dispair alone.

    1. Paul Bacon 28 Apr 2011, 8:57am

      To me, this is one of the most disgusting chapters in gay history. The utter hopelessness that the pink triangle prisoners must have felt seeing their fellow prisoners released without them. I must admit that I had no idea that the decision to keep them incarcerated was made by the Americans. These facts need to be more widely publicised. I don’t necessarily like to dwell on the past too much, but we can all learn lessons from history.

    2. Sam Maloney 28 Apr 2011, 9:25am

      STUNNING– could you tell me where to find documentation for that?

  10. For more info & reading refs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Seel
    While the camps were liberated after the war, homosexuality remained criminalised and many gay men had to go back into the closet. If any of you saw ‘Christopher & his Kind’ recently, the lad that Isherwood met in 1930′s Berlin disappeared into the army and then married after the war in order to ‘pass’ as normal. This fact was not portrayed sympathetically in the film with Matt Smith, but the reality was there was no real liberation for homosexuals until the political movements started to emerge from the late 1960’s onwards. It is only in recent years, when survivors started to detail their accounts that it became widely recognised that homosexuals perished in the camps. If memory serves, the Washington DC Holocaust Museum has an authentic pink triangle.

    1. paul canning 28 Apr 2011, 11:45am

      One of the worst aspects of this is the late discovery of the few survivors, and the fact that there are so few. Pink triangles were the lowest of the low and I have read some analysis that they died at a very highest rate for those in work (not concentration) camps. Rudolf Brazda only came forward in 2008.

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