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Another US poll finds majority support for gay marriage

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  1. it seems US administration lacks cojones to do anything about it

  2. Jock S. Trap 20 Apr 2011, 2:41pm

    No surprise there then.

    So give us Equal Marriage already!

    Polls here and in the US constantly show support so lets have what they support.

    1. unlike US, UK has a law at national level that recognise same sex relationships

      1. Jock S. Trap 20 Apr 2011, 3:31pm

        Thats true but not one of Equal Marriage. So still separate.

  3. When will PinkNews STOP referring to MARRIAGE EQUALITY as “GAY marriage”?

    Do you not understand the difference by now and do you not understand how your continued use of an inaccurate and inappropriate term is damaging to the cause?

    At this point I’m tired of trying to explain it to you. Maybe someone else can get through!

    1. Hear hear.

      It really disgusts me that an LGBT news website cannot grasp the idea that LGBT people are seeking marriage equality. We are not seeking a new form of marriage – merely equal access to the current form.

  4. Stephen Green @ Closet.com 20 Apr 2011, 2:57pm

    This is fantastic news. The truth is, America leads the way on things like this… so it’s only a matter of time before government honours the will of the people.

    1. America most certainly does not lead the way on marriage equality.

      Aren’t you forgetting the 11 countries which already have marriage equality.

      The Netherlands (over 10 years ago now)
      Belgium
      Canada
      South Africa
      Spain
      Portugal
      Iceland
      Sweden
      Argentine
      Iceland
      Norway

      1. Stephen Green @ Closet.com 20 Apr 2011, 4:19pm

        I said “on things like this” – I’m sorry, I should have been clearer.

        America has given far broader exposure and approval to gays through its media than all of those countries combined, in my opinion.

        In the western world, trends (good and bad) tend to start in the US.

        1. Again not true – have you been to the Netherlands in the last 30 years?

          The US may give more exposure to gay issues through its media but much of said exposure is of the toxically homophobic kind. The kind of negative exposure that even British media would not run.

          This poll shows that 51% of Americans support marriage equality.

          Last month in the Irish Times it was shown that 65% of Irish people support marriage equality.

        2. David is quite right, and your statement is utterly incorrect.

          In 2006 a recent Eurobarometer poll surveying up to 30,000 people from each European Union country, showed split opinion around the 27 member states on the issue of same sex marriage. The majority of support came from the Netherlands (82%), Sweden (71%), Denmark (69%), Belgium (62%), Luxembourg (58%), Spain (56%), Germany (52%) and Czech Republic (52%).

          All of these top this poll’s 51%.

          I believe the reality is the equality trend starts in Europe, with the US a very slow follower.

          1. The fact is that the modern gay rights movement did start (and with a bang) in the USA. The American paradox is the coexistence of amazing progressive dynamism with deep, often religious, reaction.

          2. Riondo, I agree that the gay rights movement may have started there, but contemporary equality is most definitely where Europe leads, given the first equal marriages started here, and continues to gather momentum far beyond the US…

      2. Well, I think it may have been a first when the Hawaiian supreme court ruled in 1993 that it was discriminatory to exclude same-sex couples from marriage, but you’re right that we aren’t leading on this issue now. Keep in mind though that the marriage debate evolved differently here than it did in Europe. If we had started out with Danish-style registered partnerships limited at first to a state here and there, things might have played out differently. Hawaii set us back by nationalizing the debate too soon — it instantly politicized the issue nationwide by threatening to force same-sex marriage on all fifty states in one fell swoop. It generated a huge backlash and turned same-sex unions into a wedge issue. Maybe 51% doesn’t sound impressive, but achieving a consensus on anything in a ginormous federated superstate is hard, and it’s a pretty big deal if we’ve done it on something the religious right has put everything they’ve got into fighting for nearly 20 years.

  5. Hayden, you’re exactly right. Civil marriage isn’t gay but gender neutral. The term “gay marriage” is often used by right wing religious nutters to villify the notion of same-sex couples having the same right as their straight counterparts, its incendiary, the reason why they use it, just as the ‘homosexual’ is another favourite of theirs, a dirty word in fact.

    Pink News should know better! Who on earth is the editor?

    1. Jock S. Trap 20 Apr 2011, 3:34pm

      I agree, it separates us and Pink News should think about uniting equally not dividing like extremists.

  6. Really, Stephen Green@ closet.com? Since when? Holland was the first in 2001. The five states in America which allow gays to marry don’t even have the federal rights that come with marriage. In fact, its not even full marriage equality there, yet. I doubt if it will ever happen, not with their Supreme Court stacked with five or six out of nine extremely homophobic conservative catholic judges for life. We in the UK will get it a lot sooner than America will.

    1. Huh? We don’t know how the court will rule. The last time the court (which has become more liberal since then) ruled on gay rights issues, it ruled in favor of it (Lawrence v. Texas). There have been some changes, but overall the make-up of the court has not changed much.

      1. Paula Thomas 21 Apr 2011, 2:45am

        Yeah, that just shows how far behind the US is. The equivalent of that law was repealed in the UK in 1968 (with further liberalisations in 1994 and 2003).

        1. Sodomy laws were a dead letter in most of the states that still had them by the time they were struck down. I think Massachusetts still technically had one on the books while it was providing state-funded safe sex seminars for gay teens, for example.

          I don’t see what this has to do with Eric’s point, though. Not a lot of gay rights related cases have made their way to the Supreme Court, and of the three I can think of offhand that have, two have gone our way. Catholics are also generally more supportive of gay rights than Protestants in the U.S., and some of our greatest court victories have come from Republican judicial appointees, so you can’t necessarily predict how the court will vote just based on the religion of the justices or which party they belong to.

    2. Jock S. Trap 23 Apr 2011, 9:20am

      Actually Robert I think Sweden was the first, followed by Norway in 1993.

  7. So our self-proclaimed ‘fierce advocate’ Barack Obama sides with the homophoobic minority in the US on this issue?

    Shame on him.

  8. Honestly, with the next election cycle in progress, don’t expect anything to happen. Obama won’t risk it – not when the GOP is already getting ready to pander to the baying hateful mob again (for example, some of the potential GOP candidates have already said they will reinstate DADT).

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