Gary has said normal thing. Homosexual kissing is a sick and abhorrent practice of disordered people. You can remove my comment but it does not change your sickness. It clearly shows your weakness.
And how is life ayt the convent treating you these days?
Having reached the age of 80 how does it feel to be someone who has never reached an orgasm#?
Bloody foreigners – can’t even string an grammatically correct, idiomatic sentence together!
…..oops, pot kettle and black, methinks. if you are going to correct grammar make sure your own is faultless. An does not preceed the letter g as in “an grammatically” It should be ” a grammatically” Not that she would know of course.
I think “honest” is probably not foreign but is just not overly familiar with the dictionary as well as being a bigoted pixie in the sky fantasist who believes that when she dies she will be welcomed into some weird fantasy land inhabited by hetro dead people…
Honest.. are a fagot? You just sound like one of those gay guys who is afraid to admit it; come on be honest with your self, you are among friends. Call it woman’s intuition.
A snog in sounds great… any one want to be my partner, boy or girl I don’t care.
David, Paddy, Wooden Spoon and Honest, unless you witnessed the said kissing crime I suggest you shut up!
You can feel that way and say those things. However I know Karma will get you in the end. Negative is no way to live. I feel really sorry for you.
Homosexual, sick, abhorrent, disordered – and loving it!
Sick, abhorrent, disordered,
Sounds hot. Where can I get some of that action?
I think thats a nightclub innit?
…..lovely tasty cock…. But what would she know, she has never seen one since the last time she handled her dads.
honest, if you’d been able to see past the red mist to actually read the story you would have realised that Gary was actually claiming (even if spuriously) NOT to be anti-gay, you unutterable dimwit.
You do leave funny comments. So uneducated, so pathetic. Are you sure your allowed on here? Has Mummy left you all alone?
You do seem slightly over obsessed by everything Gay. Is that a hint do ya think?
This a fake profile – probably a Pinknews so called journalist keeping the topic alive by creating bigoted remarks to anger readers
Uneducated and pathetic? Excellent choice of adjectives, Jock. I’d also add repressed ;)
LOL, yes Iris definitely repressed.
honestly honest i love homosexual kissing, i think it is homophobia that is sign of sickness and weakness
you are weak you bigoted scum – does hiding behind your pc make you feel strong?
homosexuals aren’t disordered etc
plus if someone doesn’t like kissing they don’t need to keep watching and this john was too cowardly to give his last name
I doubt his ‘attitude’ lets him out much.
Well, you’re entitled to your view I suppose but why are you reading a gay newspaper if you find kissing homosexuals sick and abhorrent?
Why do you keep commenting on a LGBT website? Why are you even reading Pink News if you find this community so abhorrent?
The idea of sexual orientation being a sickness is a total joke, especially coming from someone who, I suspect, has ulterior for venturing onto an LGBT website so frequently. Denial much, honest?
Why do you keep frequentlng a “Gay & Lesbian Website” if gays and lesbians are so abhorrent to you?
And as a roman catholic I could say to you That hetrosexuals having sex and outside wedlock is also disgusting and children out of wedlock is also disgusting Using condoms prevents life and is imoral Divorce is Imoral is certain cases Now tell me Am I wrong for my actions? Getting drunk is mortal sin and I bet you are guilty of some of things above yourself?
You complete hypocrite
Amazing how those witnesses in support of the gay couple are not afraid to give their full names when giving statements, yet those opposed hide behind annonymity. Shows fully where the truth of this situation lies.
Yes, that struck me too.
Agree. Guy on the radio sounds like a lying twat.
Having listened to 5 live for a few years, I reckon they use members of the production team to make a fake controversial calls to whip up the debate.
Gary from Richmond could well be just a device 5 live used to keep listeners tuned in.
Must admit I thought that. People who aren’t afraid of the truth aren’t afraid of giving their names.
“Must admit I thought that. People who aren’t afraid of the truth aren’t afraid of giving their names.”
Quoted for, er, truth. Well you said it, um, “JOCK S. TRAP”… LOL!!!
What makes you think that it’s my name and that I have a sense of humour about it? Wasn’t it you under another name that said you couldn’t respond to me because of the name, yet you don’t show it. You seem to have a very unhealthy problem.
More’s to the point you don’t see me changing my nickname to suit my argument. You get me no matter what.
So why are you so obsessed with me William? It’s almost like having a stalker. You just can’t seem to leave me alone.
I repeat. I already have a partner, I have no interest in you. You are not my type. I’ll will never want you.
Get over it dear, do!
So they are unable to give their names, what does this really say ?
It speaks of a lack of integrity.
These people know that homophobia is shamefull in 21st century Britain, and they do not fool anyone with their, we have gay friends rhetoric. So hitler had jewish friends, how perverse.
Could be that he knows there’ll be a significant group of people who don’t believe him and potentially make his life a misery for it. I wasn’t there nor have I seen video evidence to show whether it was a small kiss (perfectly acceptable) or whether they were eating each others face off (a little inappropriate in a pub in the afternoon). And I’m speaking as someone who’s been asked to leave two straight studenty clubs in Manchester (where half the people in there are snogging) for kissing another lad, though on both occasions I told the bouncer to do one or he’d be losing his SIA licence :-)
- On a lighter not having seen what they look like I wouldn’t want to see them kissing either!!! JOKE!!!!
Strange….I’ve seen plenty of straight couples with their tongues down each other’s throats in pubs….never seen any of them being kicked out.
They would if I worked there.
So witnesses who gave statements to the police stated that the couple’s behaviour was appropriate.
Meanwhile John, 57 claims that their behaviour was inappropriate refuses to make a statement to the pollce.
I feel uncomfortable when I see any form of PDA because I’m just that sort of person lol! But I however, deal with it, because it’s just what people do! Heterosexual or homosexual, everybody has a right to PDA, surely! :)
Am I the only one shocked at just hoe prudish some people are? The same sort of prudes complain about nursing mothers breast feeding in coffee shops. Someone needs to give these prudes a good hug in public and show them intimacy is good for them.
I bet they hate seeing men cry too.
Particularly when you thing a lot of foreign straight men kiss on greeting. How on Earth would these prides cope? They’d go into meltdown.
Women breasfeeding in coffee shops is something entirely different and one that gets right up my goat. I’m not prudish, but I don’t want to sit in Costas opposite someone with her tit out and her baby slurping on it. And the rest of us are left to sit and try not to look while yummy mummy practices her new found rights as a mother.
As for two guys – two girls – boy – girl kissing in pubs, I don’t have any objections, but don’t get me started on the yummy mummy brigade.
I’ve never seen any mother “with her tit out” as you so nicely put it. I’ve seen many mothers breast-feeding in public but I’ve only ever realised what they’re doing after some time (and probably missed many others who I didn’t notice at all).
Your comment is offensive. Babies need feeding and I’d far rather they had the proper milk than a bottle of processed cow’s milk. The idea that any breast-feeding mother would be an exhibitionist about it is offensive and untrue. Most ‘cuddle’ their baby and shuffle about so as to arrange themselves so it’s absolutely impossible for anyone to see their breast.
No idea what your yummy mummy obsession is. Yes, I too think it’s a crap phrase, but that doesn’t excuse your remarks about breast-feeding.
Oh I see, my comment is offensive, but the act isn’t? How does that work, Iris?
…..Let me guess, you are a barren old hag who has never had a man never mind a child. How is the loving act of feeding a baby an offensive act. Women had for the last 400 thousand years, to feed their baby’s as there was no baby food from a shop and cows milk has only been available for about 8 thousand years. Get a grip woman….
Because, Maggie, breast feeding is a 100% natural act. Only our societies prudish attitude has made it unacceptable. I have yet to see any mother flop her tits out. I’ve seen many cuddling their infant close and only after a while have I noticed that she’s actually feeding the child. Babies don’t have our control as adults – when they need feeding, they need feeding. I would consider anyone who didn’t feed the child a bad mother. And a mothers milk is the best food for a baby, it contains many nutrients that artificial and/or cows milk doesn’t.
Stop living in the 19th century. Breast feeding is one of the most natural acts a mother can perform and I, personally, have no issue with it. It’s not your opinion that is offensive, it’s how you worded it, it’s no better than wading in calling people people f*gs, d*kes or n*ggers. To be blunt, get a grip.
Most people don’t find the act of breast-feeding offensive at all. I fail to see why you do. There’s nothing wrong with it, done discreetly as the VAST majority of mothers do.
Nobody forces you to look! the human body comes equipped with movable eyes and heads for just such circumstances.
Its better than the baby starving (along with the associated crying that comes with it) or the mother sitting home alone as an outcast.
My point is that you’re forced to look elsewhere, like this morning when I was in my local Costas. This is subject is a long running debate, however, my original point in reply to your post is that many people, gay – straight or otherwise who wouldn’t have any objection to two guys kissing in a pub, have a different views on women who insist on breasfeeding their children in front of others in coffee shops.
In my view, those who find this behaviour inappropriate aren’t ‘prudish’ as you claim.
You’re entitled to your view, and I’m entitled to mine. The fact we disagree doesn’t make you right, or me right either, however, it would be helpful if you were to stick to replying to the original thread of the story which is about 2 guys being asked to leave for kissing in a pub, and not, women breasfeeding in coffee shops.
But breastfeeding is a natural part of baring a child. Mothers shouldn’t have to hide that. Just as they have the right to feed their child we have the right to look away of we don’t like it.
@maggie Sorry I pissed you off.. actually I didn’t intend to be nasty at all. Paddyswurds is totally horrible and I just want to separate myself from anything he has said because it is really very nasty.
Fair enough, maggie, but I responded because you’d mentioned breast-feeding. If you have a problem with a particular woman then that still doesn’t justify your generalising comment.
And it seems from what you’ve said above that you find the mere ACT of breast-feeding offensive, no matter how discreetly the mother does it. When people say “That’s your problem” it’s usually meant to be rude, but I’d say that to you in a POLITE way. I accept you have an issue with breast-feeding but you’re in a minority there and it’s your problem not anyone else’s.
‘Gets right up my goat’ is my phrase of the day. Poor goat.
Goats Milk anyone?
Agreed! If a mother needs to feed her baby when they’re in a public place and they only breastfeed, why can’t they go and do so in the restroom? If I were a woman with a newborn, I’d definitely take myself somewhere private to do it (now there’s something I’ve never considered before!)
There is nothing prudish about disliking seeing mothers breastfeeding, I know plenty of people who are uncomfortable seeing it and are quite happy to see people snog in public. I’m sure I’ll get flak for this, but it’s just an opinion.
I only wish I lived in/near London to attend the kiss off!
It’s the most beautiful, natural thing in the world. Most mothers do it of most species.
Why do they have to hide it because a few prudes can’t handle it?
Would you like to eat your lunch in a “rest room”.
Well no, but I don’t really want to eat my lunch from a woman’s nipple either.
….no flak but an honest question. Why exactly does seeing a baby breastfeeding make you uncomfortable or why don’t you like seeing it.?
And another if it doesn’t tax you too much; Would you have Your dinner in the restroom.?
Maggie, don’t be a bitch. Babies are beautiful and need feeding every 3 hours. Often a pub is the only warm place a mother can sit down for a short time. I love to see babies feeding, I think they are dead cute. How can you even say that you cow. you are just out of order.. so shut up.
Yeah Maggie, DON’T be a bitch! ( thanks Nicola, I love your comment)
Okay, all I’ll take myself and my view on breastfeeding in a coffee shop elsewhere and you leave you with all the maturity discuss the issues of the day.
So far on this thread I’ve been called:
a barren, childless old hag whose never had a man; a bitch, someone living in the 19th century, I could go on.
But the story is actually about two guys who kissed each other in a pub and got asked to leave as their behaviour caused offence.
Yet all those who support these two people are also happy to call others such names and engage in such threatening behaviour.
I’m sorry if my view on breasfeeding in cafe’s causes offence.
I can assure you all, you won’t hear from me again.
It’s also very interesting that as a female when I post here I get called an old hag whose never had a man.
yes, I’ve never had a man, but then that’s because I am a lesbian.
I’m sorry, I actually thought this forum was for LGBT people.
Apologies, my mistake and I’ll close the door on my way out.
…don’t bother, just let it hit you on your fat arse as you leave, you baby hating old hag. Are you one of these women who are pretend lesbians because you couldn’t get a man to even look at you never mind shag you so you became a lesbian in your 40s. Fcuk Off! (cant believe i just wrote that but needs must)
Maggie, when you rudely, arrogantly and aggressively assert your discriminatory, bigoted and out-dated (hence my 19th century comment) views, you ARE going to get called out on it. If you don’t like the response, maybe you should address your own BIGOTRY rather than cry about the response of others to vile way in which you express your opinions.
Having a view is one thing, but the way you expressed it was just wrong, get a spine, pick up your dummy and stop crying about it.
The easy way for the management of the John Snow to resolve the facts in this indecent. Release the CCTV tapes and the world can see just who is right.
Ah but they won’t do that. It will show that they wrong.
When was the last time a heterosexual couple was thrown out of that pub for kissing? They claim to have this rule for everyone, but selectively enforce it for certain individuals. That’s called discrimination.
Oh I’m sure if it was a man and a woman kissing he’d have been just as quick to report it. NOT.
To Hones…. If it upsets you so much here in the free and democratic UK maybe you “go home back your own country where you and people are backward and oppressed ahh but no benefit to be leeched backhome in jungle ahh Dilemma, maybe like free dole money too much so will stay and turn the other cheek to the gay kissing.
‘Back home in the jungle’?! Have I stumbled into an episode of Love Thy Neighbour? It’s like some sort of homophobia v racism death match.
“Have I stumbled into an episode of Love Thy Neighbour? It’s like some sort of homophobia v racism death match.”
These forums are dogged by low-IQ gay white racists.
BBC 5 Live love to stir up a debate. The caller was, most likely, either fake or active sought-out.
Don’t feed the trolls!
Inspired by the levels of accuracy on this site –
John Snow (physician) and his water pump – was a vegetarian and an ardent teetotaler and believed in drinking pure water (via boiling) throughout his adult life. He never married – could this be a Gay Hero that this pub is named after?
Homosexuals. Dear oh dear. Evolution’s deviation (together with blacks), always trying to make a big splashy show to make up for their lack of fully-rounded humanity. And then trying to silence anyone who points it out.
Just because nobody wants to snog you at the pub tonight is no need to take it out on everyone else.
Oh dear, that was an extremely poorly constructed sentence from me there. Never mind.
Just remind yourself of that the next time you hear of a child who has committed suicide because of those very words.
Then what do you care, it’s only a child right, just a human being.
“Evolution deviation”? like how human’s evolutionally deviated away from primates and basically every other living organism?
No, I would support you right to voice your opinion even if your assertions are not backed up any evidence unless you have some you would like to share? Also , care to tell us your name?
……Contrary to what your evil Abrahamic book of fiction tells you, the white man is actually the evolutionary deviation.
1.5 million years ago our ancestors were all black; eg Lucy et al.
Do you think that you with your racist homophobia are the epitomey of “fully-rounded humanity” You are actually an insult to the human race and a prime example of it’s more baser elements.
………..a prime example of it’s baser elements…obv**
Paddy you are a twat
“Evolution’s deviation (together with blacks)”
What an truly delightfully erudite comment. Maybe you can explain, in a world of intelligent people, how your gene’s ended up with such an intellectually defective creature like you? Your mother was on heroine when she was on the game, was she?
I just love the way that one area under discussion can veer away at a multitude of tangents – or whatever the collective noun for ” tangents” is!
However, not living in London, where all the “action” is (or so ’tis rumoured) I will have to miss the “Kissathon” , much to my chagrin!
Enjoy it, guys and galls!
I don’t live in London and don’t really like public displays of affection but to show solidarity I will be kissing my boyfriend at around 9pm this evening, in our flat. No tongues though, we’re not perverts or anything.
Warning to the Prudish
I will be planning to kiss my hubby most of the evening. Arriving from the North I will be showing full affection with possible bouts of fondling, As the sun sets I will be considering heavy petting with the high possibilty of full on snogging arriving from the South…. weather permitting.
It is stupid !!!
Straight couples can almost f*** each other in bus, bar, restaurant and any other public places and no one complain while gays cannot even do a little kiss in a corner of pub. what sort of same right is this?
I dnt think it’s the right way… My bf would prob drag me along tho. Kinda makes me a hypocrite.
Yeah but I bet there’s no stopping ya once you get goin, eh?
Or maybe thats the problem?
Haha… I think getting my bf let me upfor some air from the kissing will be the issue haha
It’s all good!!
I suppose “honest” thinks its equally sick for a mother to kiss her daughter and for a father to kiss his son no matter their age, in fact any family member.
What is “it” doing trolling gay sites anyway? Prurient interest perhaps? If anyone is sick, its “honest”.
LU, you stupid religious halfwit….why don’t you and your “straight” compatriots get your own filthy house in order first before judging others? Blame your f_____g straight compatriots for screwing up the world, wars, rape, sex trafficking, adultery, philandering, pimps and their prostitute whores and the sick straight men, married and single, who patronise them, Just like you, that is far sicker than two people of the same gender embracing.
Funny how LU can’t stay off this [gay] site, isn’t it?
(At least it’s not funny really, just pitiable.)
I have no religion. Biology is my ‘god’, and you go against it. Religion has even started making excuses for you – you even have your own churches now.
I just pity you. Truly.
Leave religion out of it.. where did that comment come from?
Thank you LU, how kind of you. I daresay it’s the same kindness that brings you back to this site over and over again.
You knowledge of your god might be little wanting, though …
You think about gays quite a bit…. don’t you?
If you think homosexuals go against your god, then you need to get to know your deity a bit better.
The Russians have been doing it for years and the Arabs love to hold hands as they walk down the street. Maybe honest prefers to see men blowing each other up with grenades. After all, that’s what men were created to do.
Some people just seem unable to accept that sometimes in life you will see things that you don’t really want to. I don’t like seeing people in leather trenchcoats or balding men with ponytails. And I’m not too keen on nose studs either. But to expect people not to make these bizarre fashion choices just because I don’t want to see it seems ridiculous to me. Is seeing someone snogging or breastfeeding really a big issue in your life? If so I think you might have a slight problem.
Hey, there’s nothing wrong with leather trenchcoats or nose studs.
Totally with you on the bald head/ponytail thing though lol
I have to say I’m shocked at the amount of venom on this thread. For those of you who ‘don’t like gays’, bugger off & let everyone else discuss the story like mature adults. As for the breastfeeding haters, I can’t wait to feed my son wherever I like & I’m not sitting in a dirty bog to do it!
Here, here!! Good for you CC!!
Gary [no surname] from Richmond, 57yo, and his wife found the two guys kissing “over the top”; Lucy Clements and Jamie Morton, both 20something, sitting next to the guys, saw nothing untoward about their behaviour.
I’m sorry to say it sounds like an age divide in attitudes – sorry because I myself am closer to Gary’s age.
Once again, the Reader Comments are bogged down with ad hominem mutual mudslinging, to the detriment of discussing the actual issue. I share a suspicion of someone only known as Gary from Richmond, but in fairness that is how these radio stations always announce callers, and probably they have the caller’s true name and phone number before letting them on air. Radio stations thrive on controversy, so this was just the call they wanted. Who knows if it is true?!
As to baby feeding, there is nothing more natural in creation, as innumerable renaissance oil paintings illustrate. Why is there prudishness about breast-feeding? The female breast doesn’t turn me on one iota. I wonder how the alleged police investigation will go (if it is not already a closed file).
Rehan, she has serious issues relating to her sexual orientation. Any sane, well-adjusted straight man or woman wouldn’t deign to troll gay sites to spew this abnormal hatred against us. She or it needs long-term psychiatric help with a large dose of prozac. What sane gay man or woman would visit a straight sexually oriented site of this nature?
Rehan, she has serious issues relating to her sexual orientation. Any sane, sexually well-adjusted straight man or woman wouldn’t deign to troll gay sites to spew this venom against us if they were that comfortable with themselves. Its abnormal behaviour to say the least. She or it needs long-term psychiatric help with a large dose of prozac. What sane gay man or woman would visit a straight sexually oriented site of this nature?
Mo, exactly right! This Gary as he’s called, I’d like to see the media show his face to see who he really is. I think its suspect. Maybe the Daily Mail or some other rag paid someone to say it? Anybody could call up and say it without having actually been present.
If this man Gary has nothing to hide, then he’ll come forward and reveal his face and then we can find out if others in the pub saw him there.
“honest”…..I bet if you had to kiss someone of the same sex or face death, I wonder which you’d choose? I hope you ‘d choose death to live up to your conviction.
The very fact that the denouncer had to explain his (old) age and marriage status is a clear sign he certainly knows he is out of his time. But it doesn’t give him special right or treatment under the law to protect his outdated sensitivities. Putting his –allegedly- gay and lesbian friend up front to claim no harsh feelings is lame and fake.
But I guess only time will end up erasing the shock from the old folks out of the scene. Some people seem to be simply too old to learn new things anymore.
BROKEN RECORD RHETORIC
Have alook on the Sam Smith’s (Brewery who own the pub) Forum. We’ve no fans there…
Had a look at the forum, its wall to wall comments from neaderthals trotting out the usual cliches about the lgbt community.
Remember people, homosexuality is a neurological flaw – during the foetus development something goes wrong and has for generations – obviously they’re not designed to be gay. However, as with other ‘problems’, gays shouldn’t be discriminated against where their ‘problem’ doesn’t prevent them from doing whatever they do in life.
homosexuality isn’t a flaw or problem etc you jackass
You said it, Jock, and who is better qualified than you to comment on ignorance, eh?
you are very qualified William unlike Jock
@Charles, I think your will find that ignorance is a flaw.
Charles, when will you be visiting a neurologist?
Gary from Richmond and late of Tunbridge Wells.