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Bill could make gay history compulsory in California schools

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  1. I hope this includes all the anti gay violence and needless suicides. Including suicides of people who’re not gay but think they might be.

    1. Dan Filson 15 Apr 2011, 6:01pm

      Well said

    2. Actually, I hope it’s more positive than that implies. The history of California is full of positive stories of gay artists, politicians and others making an enormous contribution to American and world culture. That should be the emphasis of the teaching of history – how gay lives have contributed to the development of democracy in America and beyond.

    3. I agree – they should try to make this as positive as possible

  2. Dan Filson 15 Apr 2011, 6:01pm

    Tough syllabus to write.

  3. Please God that this goes through. We have a history of suffering, and bravery and triumph that HAS to be told.

    1. I don’t think ‘God’ features in the gay history syllabus unless its to do with us being damned by crazy fundamentalists and religious right-wing.

  4. I feel sorry for kids who comprehensively hates gays… :)

    1. Don’t worry about them, they don’t even go to school…. like you didn’t. We’ll help them find the medical help they need for their ignorance. Maybe its not too late for you, you too can be cured of your stupidity and ignorance, and then be allowed to join civilised society? Would you like that Rich? Hmmm? You could have things like friends and books? Like that?

  5. Jock S. Trap 16 Apr 2011, 7:47am

    Good place to start. Something that needs to be celebrated around the world. Esp in helping to reducing bullying, abuse and suicides.

    I applaud this, lets hope the religious Nutjobs don’t get their claws into this like they have over Equal marriage.

  6. Any chance they could scrap ‘creationism’ whilst they’re at it?

  7. Dr Robin Guthrie 16 Apr 2011, 6:01pm

    Whilst their at it just mention Alan Turing.

    Gay inventor of the modern day computer who committed suicide after having been demonized by society.

    That is gay history.

    1. Quite right. And he’s an LGBT hero.

  8. LGBT history is being deliberately written out of BBC kids’ programmes. Check out my latest blog. You’d think with so many LGBT people working in the media things would be different.

    1. Dave, read your blog, i’m happy to raise this issue Cbbc, i feel strongly that Newsround should be covering this kind of story, not necessarily this one in particular but other LGBT news items, including Pride etc. Can you supply me with a contact number or e mail address please?? Will continue to follow your very interesting Blog.

      1. Lizzie, thanks for your message. The Director of Children’s is Joe Godwin. BBC email addresses are usually transparently constructed as

        Hope this helps, and that more will start to appreciate the important role that bias in the media plays.

        1. Thanks. x

  9. FFS. There is no such thing as gay history, black history, etc. Stop putting needless labels on things. There is only history.

    1. Jock S. Trap 17 Apr 2011, 7:38am

      Why isn’t their such thing, Adam?

      1. Because history doesn’t happen (or very rarely happens) because someone is gay. It happens because of their ideology, it happens because of the country they run, etc.

        1. I’m sorry, but that’s just nonsense. History is a branch of knowledge that records and explains past events, so can be from a particular perspective, and hence why we have “the history of civil rights in black people in America” sometimes referred to as “black history”. It is a sub categorisation of history form a perspective, and is quite valid. Stop being so pedantic and focus more on the event, not its label.

          1. Jock S. Trap 18 Apr 2011, 8:40am

            Excactly Will


            History is important. It defines who we are, so it’s just as important to remember Gay history as it is Black history as it is general history.

          2. As a historian myself, I would have to concur with Adam. Black history, gay history, women’s history – these are all narratives aimed at fighting for particular political rights in the present and not about representing the truth of the past or about uniting minorities in a struggle against those that oppress them. It is important to remember gay figures like Alan Turing, but only when appropriate and not for the sake of it. Like Adam says, Turing was not a brilliant logician because he was gay, so history should not represent him as such.

          3. Jock S. Trap 18 Apr 2011, 3:43pm

            “fighting for particular political rights”

            I have to disagree with that. Yes history is history but important figures need to be remembered not only for what they did but also who they are. Don’t forget most of those historical figures had not political or human rights to be themselves which in turn makes remembering them even more important.

            As in live everybody has a place in history and who they/we are is important. I’m all for remembering the dead on Memorial Day, remembering soldiers as soldiers but there is nothing wrong in remembering those who fought were Black, White, Asian, Men, Women, Gay, Lesbian, Straight. Yes we remember they were in this together but it is equality important to remember who made up that togetherness.

            We’re led to believe, rightly that cultures should be respected and remembered, well we are part of that society too.

          4. Jock S. Trap 18 Apr 2011, 3:45pm

            Was meant to put “fighting for particular political rights…” as continued sentence not as a comment taken out of sentence..

  10. Chutneybear 18 Apr 2011, 10:32am

    Think its an excellent idea I think. Teach the kids about Stonewall etc and the teachers will be neutral . Fair play to the yanks on this one :)

  11. As much as I sympathise with the need to redress imbalances in our understanding of the past, unfortunately, forcing schools to teach history in a partisan manner is not the way forward. I fear this will only serve to segregate our community further. Instead of asserting our own story, we should focus on integrating our story into a broader narrative of minorities and exclusion.

  12. I am wonder: when people will began to castrate homosexuals again?

    1. Why would you want to do that to yourself?

      1. Jock S. Trap 19 Apr 2011, 8:19am

        Exactly, classic closet case or what?.

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