“there was concern that the Marines in particular would react badly to serving alongside out gay colleagues.”
“General James Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, had previously claimed that allowing out gay troops could cause a dangerous distraction.”
It’s typical isn’t it. They are more concerned about how They feel, not the fact how those LGBTQ people, those servicing, defending their country not taking any notice of how they feel being banned from being themselves.
Apparently it doesn’t matter that they insult us with their fears.
It’s this old cliche, Gay men jump on anybody syndrome. They are so short sighted they cannot see other than those LGBTQ in the services being allowed to be openly LGBT nothing will change.
When these people stop pandering to homophobes, stop being homophoes and end this already!
As things are moving on towards equality in the US military, I suggest we welcome that with open arms.
That doesn’t mean we should forget the rhetoric that has been used in the past in support of inequality. We should bear that in mind as recall it if we need to hold the military to account for failure to deliver in this area.
Thank you for this story. FYI – http://OutMilitary.com is providing a supportive place for gay servicemen and women to friend, share and network in a post DADT era.
and there are flying pigs about – they haven’t been very committed so far plus when they would rather accept criminals then LBG folk it shows how pathetic they are
gay, bi etc troops would be distracting if you couldn’t do the job you are meant to do and if you are unprofessional, then that means that the unproffessional soldier should be dismissed
If you follow your logic then the South African government should never be trusted because they once had an apartheid regime.
The US military have had (and still do) a homophobic regime but are in the process of dismantling it. The argument has been won. They are bringing in equality for LGBT people. We should celebrate that rather than say “Ah but they were/are homophobic”.
All this with a cautionary – watch and wait – and be prepared to challenge if equality is not delivered or they backtrack.
Its a huge organisation change needs a process particularly when some of that change if statutory and proecural change.
Yes they have done some heinous things – lets not barrack them more and more unless they fail to deliver or they stagnate in the change.
Over 17 years, the U.S. military wasted $756 million and needlessly lost 67,011 qualified people (14,316 discharges + 52,695 resignations). More than a third of the discharges were people with critical skills, such as Arabic linguists, intelligence officers, and pilots — experts who might have prevented 9/11 if they hadn’t been fired (“Cost of DoD Homosexual Conduct Policy,” Government Accountability Office, 20 January 2011).
Homophobic TeaPublicans keep calling the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” a “dangerous social experiment.” They’re wrong. Fairness, respect, dignity, and professionalism are not experiments. 35 other militaries did this long ago — with no problem. Business, industry, government, non-profits, and universities also began this decades ago, and have benefitted from it for years.
Given the US Government’s trend to reverse policy when the alternate side regains power, I’ll reserve my hurrah as a US citizen until after the president after Obama is in office.
If europe would tell the USA to go to hell and go fight all the battles itself, it would help.
the homophobic hate states of America – my coountry – do not deserve your support, let alone the lives of your military, to defend a nation filled with hateful taliban-gelicals little different then the taliban.
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“there was concern that the Marines in particular would react badly to serving alongside out gay colleagues.”
“General James Amos, commandant of the Marine Corps, had previously claimed that allowing out gay troops could cause a dangerous distraction.”
It’s typical isn’t it. They are more concerned about how They feel, not the fact how those LGBTQ people, those servicing, defending their country not taking any notice of how they feel being banned from being themselves.
Apparently it doesn’t matter that they insult us with their fears.
It’s this old cliche, Gay men jump on anybody syndrome. They are so short sighted they cannot see other than those LGBTQ in the services being allowed to be openly LGBT nothing will change.
When these people stop pandering to homophobes, stop being homophoes and end this already!
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As things are moving on towards equality in the US military, I suggest we welcome that with open arms.
That doesn’t mean we should forget the rhetoric that has been used in the past in support of inequality. We should bear that in mind as recall it if we need to hold the military to account for failure to deliver in this area.
This is progress, lets allow it to happen.
Thank you for this story. FYI – http://OutMilitary.com is providing a supportive place for gay servicemen and women to friend, share and network in a post DADT era.
and there are flying pigs about – they haven’t been very committed so far plus when they would rather accept criminals then LBG folk it shows how pathetic they are
gay, bi etc troops would be distracting if you couldn’t do the job you are meant to do and if you are unprofessional, then that means that the unproffessional soldier should be dismissed
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If you follow your logic then the South African government should never be trusted because they once had an apartheid regime.
The US military have had (and still do) a homophobic regime but are in the process of dismantling it. The argument has been won. They are bringing in equality for LGBT people. We should celebrate that rather than say “Ah but they were/are homophobic”.
All this with a cautionary – watch and wait – and be prepared to challenge if equality is not delivered or they backtrack.
Its a huge organisation change needs a process particularly when some of that change if statutory and proecural change.
Yes they have done some heinous things – lets not barrack them more and more unless they fail to deliver or they stagnate in the change.
my comment was about their present not the past so your reference seems irrelevant
What’s the holdup? Do they have to install separate toilets or something? What a fuss!
I agree it has taken far too long
Faster than some equivalent UK public sector organisations (once the decision had been made)
Over 17 years, the U.S. military wasted $756 million and needlessly lost 67,011 qualified people (14,316 discharges + 52,695 resignations). More than a third of the discharges were people with critical skills, such as Arabic linguists, intelligence officers, and pilots — experts who might have prevented 9/11 if they hadn’t been fired (“Cost of DoD Homosexual Conduct Policy,” Government Accountability Office, 20 January 2011).
Homophobic TeaPublicans keep calling the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” a “dangerous social experiment.” They’re wrong. Fairness, respect, dignity, and professionalism are not experiments. 35 other militaries did this long ago — with no problem. Business, industry, government, non-profits, and universities also began this decades ago, and have benefitted from it for years.
Given the US Government’s trend to reverse policy when the alternate side regains power, I’ll reserve my hurrah as a US citizen until after the president after Obama is in office.
If europe would tell the USA to go to hell and go fight all the battles itself, it would help.
the homophobic hate states of America – my coountry – do not deserve your support, let alone the lives of your military, to defend a nation filled with hateful taliban-gelicals little different then the taliban.