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  1. Christ more straight acting gay men.

    1. What’s straight acting mean? And what does gay acting mean?

      1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 11:31am

        It means they’re confused.

      2. I didn’t coin the phrase. I assume it means boring with bad hygiene

      3. Straight acting gay men are people who James thinks are. And gay acting are people like James.

        James is righteous and only HIS opinion counts. Anybody else who is different James in race or in culture or in opinion or in values, is nothing more then a fake.

        If you want reality,honesty and truth, the only comments you should read on this blog are James because he is so wise he actually knows how every gay man on this planet thinks and behaves.

        Truly astonishing. Such a wise man is this James.

        1. Look if you hate me ignore me dont come here and bitch its more boring than my comments and really pointless. show us your brilliant mind and shame me into the sidelines

          1. But every retort I’ve read to one of your comments does shame you into the sidelines James!. It’s just that you still think otherwise. And I think people might feel sorry for you, so they just leave it alone.

          2. Shall we finish this off at the malcolm x story?

          3. As I said, I feel a bit sorry for you.

          4. OK

            whatever get you through the day

    2. What is your problem with gay men boxing?

      Do we have to live up to our stereotypes as gay men?

      I hope not

  2. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 9:55am

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!

    Sounds fun!!

    :)

    1. A dick measuring contest? No thanks.

      I prefer more cerebral men they use the most powerful sex organ, the brain.

      1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 10:31am

        LOL… what are you on about, dick measuring contest indeed. Your a Very naughty man. ;)

        Already got one of those with a brain, so the rest purely fun.

        :P

        1. slapper one should be enough…..if he’s doing it right!

          1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 2:21pm

            Oh one is more than enough and you know why too…hehe

            ;)

            Oh no just browsing the rest.

      2. Is martial arts a dick measuring contest? Never mind.

        1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 2:21pm

          Have you not heard of cock fighting?

    2. Boxing isnt my thing … but happy to watch this and support those who want to do it …

  3. Why is Pink News such a load of rubbish?
    Ever thought about employing some journalists?
    This site is an insult to us.

    1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 10:34am

      And yet it seems to bring plenty here to read and comment so it seems your in a minority and the only insult my dear tommy is you.

      If you don’t like it so much why be here? Unless of course you one of those who boringly changes there names to suit the argument and in actual fact spend more time between here and some porn site.

    2. Tommy, no one forces you to read it. Why do you read it? If you don’t like it, why not go and read something else. And why is it an insult to you?

    3. Tommy you’re a twat start your own site and fcuk off

    4. As much as there is arguing and bickering on here most of us enjoy most of it

      If you don’t Tommy, suggest some improvements that are reasonable … or put up and shut up about PN … or go away

      There is plenty of good evidence of good journalism on here – some shaky journalism on occasion but plenty good … This article … well thought out, effectively written and interesting – and clearly causing plenty of people to engage in the subject from the comments on here …

    5. Pink News has clearly got the readers it deserves.

      1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 4:05pm

        The best…. Clearly!

      2. And you mum got the child she deserved

        1. Sorry not you jock that cnut ohdear

          these messages pop up all over the place

          1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 4:56pm

            LOL… it’s ok… my poor mother…

            Actually your fine coz your message is as if a response to ohdear, not me dear.

            :)

      3. PN has some fantastic readers – and some very bizarre ones …

        Perhaps thats because it tries to represent a diverse set of communities?

  4. Smashing stereotypes?? ..”and instead of the trademark busty card girls, topless male models will be doing the honours instead”. Yeah way-to-go with those stereotypes. What a surprise to see someone associated with Gaydar getting involved. As for the statement; ”although if someone goes down, they go down. We’re not going to hold back on the night, it will be full-on!” Is he still talking about boxing or the inevitable orgy that’ll take place afterwards behind some skips at the back of a McDonalds?

    1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 10:35am

      Bitter much.

      Why not enjoy life.

      1. CMYB

        Wow that really is bitter I thought i was bad but here’s your crown your majesty

        1. No, CMYB, the bitter crown definitely goes to your comment. Although be careful, James! really wants it.

          1. Not bitter, just cynical. Especially when I see something in conjunction with Gaydar- why not just fess up and admit these things are basically facilitating a bit of cruising away from the saunas and darkrooms, which I have zero problem with. I just get a bit tired of seeing these events advertised as in some being a liberating thing and “we can be just as good in a boxing ring as the straights”. I don’t give a damn whether we can or not, but lets just call a spade a spade or a spanner a spanner (where is he these days anyway?!!)

          2. OK CYMB thats make sense you bnetter give me back the crown until spanner arrives

          3. Eh? It’s just a boxing match? And they’re raising money for THT. I’ve never had a gaydar account, so I don’t have the anti-gaydar issue that I see some gay lads have. I can’t be bothered being cynical about something that is harmless. And a boxing match is harmless. Life’s too short.

    2. @CMYB

      Cynical and bitter

      Ok gaydar is a cruising site in the main – and so what … They have other outlets such as gaydar radio which are more broad based … so what, they are a commerical outlet

      This is a boxing match raising money for THT – nothing more …

      It means something to one of the competitors in terms of (for him) defining his masculinity … great …

      None of that means this is gaydar doing anything other that supporting a charity event. Thats something most businesses who want to appeal to their markets do …

      Not sure exactly what you are driving at … I don’t see anything odd or any claims from gaydar that it is anything more than what you say

      1. correction anything more than a charity even as they say …

  5. Matt Dumas-Bowden 7 Apr 2011, 10:53am

    lots of bitchy comments on here…why?

    good luck guys, gay men can box too…

    1. yes were just like real men.

      Pathetic

      1. “Pathetic” – if that’s how you feel then speak for yourself James!

        1. Bitter much Eddy?

          1. Not as bitter as YOU James who has been calling names to EVERYONE that doesn’t agree with you.

            Nasty human being.

            If you dnt have anything nice nor intellectual to say…..

          2. As I said lets see your analysis of the story

          3. Jock S. Trap 8 Apr 2011, 9:50am

            Rowan

            To be fair James! doesn’t insult Everyone he disagrees with… mostly

          4. Yes thats true Rowan you dickhead

          5. Jock S. Trap 8 Apr 2011, 12:06pm

            Now, now

            ;)

    2. Absolutely Matt

      Plenty of gay boxers out there

      Some gay men seem to want to lock themselves into a particular stereotype though – they fail to see that doing so makes them equally as prejudiced as those who stereotype gays from outside

  6. What’s wrong with men boxing?
    Newsflash: All gay men are not camp.

    1. Not all gay men have to prove their men some just know

      1. Why is a man boxing proving he’s a man? What are you on about? You don’t like boxing obviously. I love it. What’s your problem James!

        1. oxing is such a barbaric “sport” you either do it for money or because some deep seated feeling of inadequacy. Probably a small dick or something

          1. Eh? Who’s got a deep seated feeling of inadequacy? (You maybe?) And why are you so obsessed with dlck size? Second comment on this thread alone – have you been measuring your own today or something? It’s just a story about boxing……

          2. Eddy

            Just cause I tore you a new one on that Malcolm x thread don’t get mad your argument was really weak and these are no better. Taking shots at me makes you come across as a sore loser

          3. WTF are you on about?? So you are saying Asians who have been practicing martial arts since the turn of the century are doing it for money? Where and how?

            Westerners started the whole do ANYTHING for capitalism,so maybe you should reasearh the social anthropology of your background?

            In many cultures, running to boxing has existed for centuries. From Turkey with oil wrestling to Brazil with Capoiera which was started by the West African slaves to relieve the pressure of being held slaves, humans have time and time again used physical contact activities to shape their minds and bodies.

            It’s the Europeans who saw the money in this to make it a ‘sport’.

            Also, way to ignore what the writer said about their being no WINNERS and the money of this going to charity but hey, forget that James when you can spend your time belittling and bullying people with mean spirited idiotic non evidence based ‘facts’.

          4. you really think i’m gonna read that screen dump

      2. James

        Some gay men just want to box – not because they are gay – because they want to box

        Its not incongruous to box and be gay …

        1. Thats ok I got from the story that boking is rebellious and not conforming to the gay stereotype which is bollocks. We are everywhere doing everything and gay boxing wasnt discovered by these clowns sitting around a board room trable think of ways to part us from our cash

          1. @James!

            I can see why you might get that from the story – but thats not how I read it. I read it as one of the participants seeing meaning in his participation being that he wasnt conforming to the gay stereotype … If that means something to him, great … Ultimately, for me the event is about two things – a charity event for THT and an example of gay men having fun … I would go and watch it if I was back south by then but I won’t be …

    2. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 11:32am

      Nothing wrong with it at all.

      :P

  7. Sorry…some

  8. I am gay. I like boxing, I started boxing after getting bullied when I was younger, not for self defence but to boost my confidence. Its not a barbaric sport, it is a contact sport. Its fun and it keeps me healthy. I dont think boxing makes someone anymore or anyless of a man. Some people need to remove the stick from their behind, some people like boxing, some people dont, deal with it.

    1. And it’s good to get anger out. I always imagine the punch bag is someone I really hate, it stops me smashing their head in for real. I can think of a few people on here who could do with a few rounds.

    2. Fair enough so the PN headline “smashing stereotypes with pink collar boxing is bollocks as some of us are already boxing

      1. James, James, James.

        Why do we ALL have to be just like YOU?

        Jesus, some diversity please! We are human after all, not just gay. Oh wait a minute, I forgot being gay was a race…

        1. Rowan you’re new welcome I look forward to reading more of your comments but now you can fcuk right off . I post my opinion you can challenge it fine but what the hell was that?

          1. You know exactly what it was. All you do is bully or belittle people.

            I’ve not read your comments on the Christian right insulting or attempting to kill gays in Africa nor the right wingers trying to whitewash anything that is inspirational about gay people, so I don’t know if you spit about as much venom to THEM who HATE us, as you do people in your own community who have written a nice article about a different way to get fit that helps you mentally and physically where EVERYONE is a winner and the money goes to charity.

            Instead of praising the diversity or the money going to charity or the simple fact that this guy has SPELLED out that this isn’t about anyone winning but taking part, making this as unsport like as when straight men do this, you spend comments insulting anyone who is positive about this.

            And your Malcolm X comments? Huh? Have you spoken to black gay people or black people about how they feel when finally history tells the truth? Finally? Really?

          2. Noting say I’M AN IDIOT like capitals

            Hah!

          3. James!

            I don’t know if its deliberate on this thread but you seem to be coming across as a bigoted bitter queen who thinks no gay man should box.

            News flash
            Some people are proud to be gay but it doesnt define them and do not feel they have to submit to stereotypes that either the outside world or others within the LGBT communities set for us.
            I do jujitsu. I also dance. I cook. I have also raced rally cars. I have played football. I sing. None of these are due to me being gay – they are things I want/wanted to do. Some are more “obvious” for a gay man – others less so. At work I have carried out roles totally at odds with convention for a gay man. I did them because I wanted to and I was good at them.

          4. Apologies James! you have shown me that you are not trying to come across as bigoted against gay men boxing through some of your other comments

          5. Cheers

  9. @James! Re:CMYB “Wow that really is bitter I thought i was bad but here’s your crown your majesty”. Yes learn from the master! All bow before me! I won’t be sated until I get Spanner onside!

    1. lol nice one.

      You’ve got new competition from Eddy and Rowan

    2. Don’t worry, you and James and your intellectual ramblings will definitely get the crown for most objective, perceptive and thoughtful comments of the day about the sociological behaviour of gay men in modern society.

      Bar non,you guys have the vast gay communities mindset down pat. By miles. I await the books!

      1. And you haven’t? Taking sidesweeps at two people posting their opinions. I never ever thought I’d be siding with James! but you’re as opinionated as the rest of us and not above a little slagging other people yourself. Cee to the You to the En to the Tee.

        1. Hmmmmm

          CMYB I sure there’s a compliment in there somewhere!

          1. Well I was trying to call Rowan the moan out.

      2. Seriously who the fcuk are you? To have so much pent up fustration landing here out of the blue you must be one of those bitches I sent running before..

        1. I assume you’re asking Rowan the moan this?

          1. Yes he was someone else I must of hurt his feelings.

            Hah!

      3. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 2:30pm

        Rowan

        At least James! comments on the story, then maybe bitchs.

        All I have seen you do it bitch about comment not the story.

        Whats that all about?

        1. @Jock S Trap

          Fair ….

          Although, I dont know about you – but I am happy to be held to account for my comments … and happy to admit when I am wrong if an opinion is put forward that causes me to reconsider my views …

          Surely, thats the purpose of debate

  10. @ Eddy re” Life’s too short”. So are dicks apparently, James! has mentioned measuring them on more than one occasion. It’s all down to the gag issue James!; if you ain’t choking on it you’ve got yourself a Thai houseboy.

  11. Boxing seeks to inflict injury deliberately and is an ethically unacceptable sport. I have no doubt that gay men can be as good at it as anybody, but why do it??

    1. Because we can. Because we choose to. Because we enjoy it. I mean you could get into the psychology of it I suppose, if you were really bored. But two consenting adults boxing in a ring is not ethically unacceptable.

    2. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 2:31pm

      Riondo

      It’s simple…. Choice.

    3. Have you ever tried boxing? Amateur boxing is quite safe, you wear protective head gear and spend ages on the punch bags before you are even allowed in the gym. Yeah the aim is to beat the opponent, but I dont want to cause lasting damage to them.

      I bet you would have more chance being injured going skiing, riding a horse or playing rugby than doing boxing.

      1. Injury is not the deliberate purpose of these sports.
        If what you say about the amateur sport is true then I am very relieved. But the professional game creates lots of tragic casualties and often represents pressure on young uneducated working-class men who see it as the one way to ‘make it’ in life. A sad reflection on our society. I wouldn’t seek to make it illegal (I think that would make things worse), but discouragement I feel should be the order of the day.

    4. @Riondo

      I don’t like boxing. I don’t like the potential brain injury that can (and has) been caused

      It is however a legal sport

      If a man (gay or not) wants to do it – why not … provided he knows the risks involved

      … and for that matter if a woman wants to ….

      1. Stu
        One can accept someone’s right to do something while also having a right to disapprove of it and attempt to dissuade people from it.

        1. @ Riondo

          Absolutely

          Equally one can criticise the disapproval of it too …

          1. Indeed. I am so glad we are both good liberals, small ‘l’. But you might have a big one, of course (‘L’, that is!).

  12. excellent idea – many boxers on tv are topless going by ads I think

    1. Jock S. Trap 7 Apr 2011, 4:08pm

      my boxers are in the wash. The other one’s at work. :P

      1. you could try to be mature mate

  13. @ Jock S. Trap Re: ” Rowan At least James! comments on the story, then maybe bitchs. All I have seen you do it bitch about comment not the story. Whats that all about?”. There’s a lot of love for James! in the room today!!!! so it should be, he and Spanner have been constantly maligned here for simply expressing their own opinions and if their opinions happen to fly in the face of popular opinion so be it.

    1. I do like a lot of James! comments on other threads

      Have disagreed fervently with him too – and entered into detailed debate

      I just can not see any argument that is reasonable that says gay men should not box – and that is the undertone of his first comment and many of those that have followed

      If I am wrong (either in that being the message or if there is a reason gay men should not box) then please do explain …

      1. The story implies that its something we dont already do I find that insulting. These guys a marketing an event and trying to make it some socially aware event. Smashing the stereotype? The whole tone is negative.

        1. Rubbish. Shown by comments on this thread it is clearly apparent that even other lgbt people do not realise gay people box.
          In my eyes nothing wrong with being a mincing queen, but im glad there are events like this to show that not all of us are mincing queens.

          1. WTF are you on about? So we didn’t know that gay guys box? Are you for real? Scott luv take off those stilettos, they’re so high you’re suffering from a lack of oxygen at whatever altitude it was when you came up with that theory. The majority of the comments on here are either of the “Meh”, “Pfft” and “Whatever” variety, everyone else wants to go along and ogle a couple of well built lads in nylon sports shorts. I don’t think many or any people didn’t consider boxing as a viable sport for gay guys. My reaction was due to Gaydar being involved. Why not some gay sports club or something related to vertical sport as opposed to the horizontal type advocated by Gaydar.

          2. Well I can say from experience that a lot of people are still shocked by the idea of gay people enjoying boxing. There still exists in society an image of gay people as a homogenous entity, and I think events such as this help dispel that myth.

        2. Effeminate men already get homophobia from other gay people and this kind of says if you cant box you’re a cliché that should be smashed.You hold us back we want to be men but we have to get rid of you fems first by excluding you.

          Or am I reading too much into it?

          1. Or am I reading too much into it?

            You might be. Maybe some gay men just like boxing, and don’t mean their taste for it to be interpreted as criticism of those who don’t.

  14. While I personally find the idea of boxing distasteful, if someone wants to spend time doing that then go for it.

  15. de Villiers 7 Apr 2011, 10:14pm

    Goodness. Boxing is nothing compared to the discussions on this thread. I feel as if I have gone ten rounds already.

    1. Lol if make the site worth visiting

  16. TheSuburban Bi 8 Apr 2011, 1:08pm

    I fear wading into this mud puddle of stereotypes but… I box. Actually, just finished with my trainer 30 mins ago. As a black, bi woman boxer — wonder what James! would make of me… am I straight-acting? or waving my dick? (yeah, I got one. In a box, but still… it’s big!)… just wondering what stereotype I’d fit in so I could get my due Pink News comment thread bitch slap…

    Anyway, as to the men who will be boxing on 15 April — more power to you.

  17. Watching two blokes give each other a good licking in the ring. Sounds rather fun.

    1. Jock S. Trap 10 Apr 2011, 10:36am

      Saucy!

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