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  1. Jock S. Trap 31 Mar 2011, 4:46pm

    So backward, So disrespectful.

    Land of the Free? What a Joke.

    1. mmmm… yea, all the countries in the world would do well to look to the UK as a shining example of a homophobia-free democracy.

      But I ain’t bitter… :)

      1. @Jonpol

        The UK is far from perfect on LGBT issues and many in the LGBT communities (including contributors to PN) are active in seeking full equality.

        However, on the issue of the military we are in a significantly better place than the US.

      2. Jock S. Trap 1 Apr 2011, 7:37am


        Fact is UK troops have been able to be themselves for quite some years. Lets not forget that while the US insists on treating its own troops in such a disrespectful way that reflects their attitude towards those country they serve alongside that are open.

        People should be allowed to be themselves anyway but I would have thought if some are willing to lay down their lives for their country they deserve nothing but the right to be who they are and not have to hide it.

  2. Would have been outrageous anyway to sack anyone due to their orientation but when you have announced that you will be changing the policy to go ahead and do it is frankly a further insult to LGBT armed service personnel in the US

  3. The outrageousness here is two-fold. First, a Petty Officer with multiple years of valuable knowledge and experience is sacked. Second, the homophobia of his peer is allowed to remain unchallenged and the peer remains anonymous. It’s not gays in the military that are disruptive, it’s the unchecked homophobia,

    1. @Mitch
      Apart from the two very valid points you raise – and the waste of expensive military training etc, I just can’t see the logic when its very clear from both military top brass in the US and Obama that the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy is ending, that they continue down this callous and irresponsible route.

      1. @Stu
        I agree. I don’t see any logic – or even a morsel of common sense – being used here. Sad for Sailor Morado that his sexuality is being put on trial like this.

      2. OutGuider 1 Apr 2011, 7:47am

        Agree with both of you here. Surely there’s some discretion available to say – strictly speaking the law is still in place but we all know it’s going and therefore we should let this guy stay, particularly given his long loyal service. It just seems such a waste.

  4. friday jones 31 Mar 2011, 9:51pm

    Wouldn’t ratting out your shipmates also make you unfit to serve? I sure wouldn’t want to be working in those dangerous conditions alongside a rat. They should discharge the guy who reported his Myspace picture.

    1. Jock S. Trap 1 Apr 2011, 7:39am

      Quite right.

      I wonder how many have been removed from serving their country just on bitchy hearsay and grudges, weither they were LGB or Not?

    2. Good point.
      It really compounds an already unfair situation that you can be legitimately denounced by a snitcher even though you haven’t ‘asked or told’ yourself.

  5. What a great way to “train troops to deal with the change” away from DADT; keep that bullsh*t policy in place!!! As Groucho Marx said, “military intelligence is a contradiction in terms”.

  6. UPDATE: Hey folks, Petty Officer Morado has been retained! They basically dismissed the charges!!!

    1. Jock S. Trap 1 Apr 2011, 7:39am

      That Never should have been up in the first place.

    2. Whilst I welcome that he has been retained, logically he should never have been threatened with removal from the military

      The sooner DADT is confirmed as being totally gone – rather than the promise it is going to – the better, then this wooly grey period and uncertainty for LGBT US military personnel will be removed

  7. “President Obama has already signed an order to repeal the anti-gay law but it remains in force while Pentagon chiefs train troops to deal with the change.”

    What a bunch of PUSSIES!! Don’t they already know how to OBEY AN ORDER? No more Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell ….and they need training?

    1. Jock S. Trap 2 Apr 2011, 11:25am

      I think they’re frightened. Of what I don’t know.

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