Show me a lezzer who isn’t as rough as badger’s ar$e.
nice reply mate
people are all different and individual
I’ve seen some series that don’t stereotype or focus on the sexuality of people so I was surprised when they we’re LBG
I think you’re Irish, aren’t you? I was brought up to think all the Irish were thick drunks. I didn’t and don’t believe it and I’m sure you find it offensive. Negative generalisations are nasty. Don’t indulge in them.
If you haven’t already seen it, you should watch ‘the kids are alright’. Amazing film about lesbian parents. Although, perhaps it may be a little too human, and not enough of a joke, for someone who would write what you did above.
Sorry, but that’s offensive – and simply untrue.
Some are Paddyswurds and some are not
I suspect it was an attempt at humour, but ho hum …
I have mixed feelings on this report …
I mean I don’t want to limit creative talent in terms of how they artistically portray characters etc
I also think that there are some gay men who are camp, many (including me are not generally)
I think lesbians are a fantasy of many heterosexual men – portraying that potentially could demean the straight men more than it does the lesbians (although care should be shown)
I wouldnt want to limit freedom of speech and expression
But I would want to see a fair, realistic and representative portrayal of the LGBT communities that is balanced, honest and accurate.
Some films and TV programmes manage it well – but not all
Also, some do we evaluate comedy on the same basis as drama etc etc?
You are really showing yourself up now ain’t ya. Are you drunk or are you naturally this offensive?
Silly question really.
Aren’t Irish people stereotyped as violent, lazy, pope-loving alcoholics?
I think Paddy might not like you for stereotyping him as Pope loving lol
“Andrew Pierce, a journalist at the Daily Mail .. who is gay”
I bet he doesn’t have a high job satisfaction…
Film stereotypes LGBT people – as it does with every other group of people. What news. I think the problem is film’s stereotyping more generally.
Absolutely, take a look at any film aimed at the juvenile or tween market and you’ll find every stereotype portrayed; the jock, the dumb blonde, the nerd, the cynic, the sarcastic teacher. Its not just the LGBT community getting a whitewashing. Mainstream film making has become very pedestrian and predictable, every rom com follows the same pattern, likewise the horror genre. If you don’t like it then just don’t watch it.
I disagree with a lot of his opinions but he is very entertaining in his radio show on LBC
Pierce is a shrill right wing pope and widdecombe loving self hating embarrassment.
Wouldnt be how I described him but usually I find myself on (or approaching) the opposite end of the spectrum to him. His programme on LBC is often balanced and he is willing to debate (and on occasion) admit there is an alternative view and I think I once heard him change his mind … As for Widdecombe loving – not sure, if he is – he needs our pity lol
I’m not sure about this obsession with characters being camp – there are, of course, camp and non-camp gay men in reality and therefore some representation of camp men is to be expected. It is the reduction of such characters to mere caricatures, who only exist to be gay that makes the portrayals objectionable. That many are also reduced to being the listening post of the heterosexual protagonists compounds the insult.
While I have no problem with a character being camp *and* a human being, I think the problem with the characters that people are often thinking about are the ones where their depiction never goes beyond camp. The characters that are thrown in because, in filmmakers’ minds, gay = camp = hilarious.
Absolutely agree with the article. Its rare that we see a well adjusted, non-camp gay male on t.v. and in films. We’re never depicted as a doctor, lawyer, policeman or other professional. Even in comedies where there’s gay content, the character is almost always represented as camp or effeminate. I’m sick of it. When will straights and straight media understand that we’re not all your stereotypical hairdresser, interior or fashion designer.
Sadly this isn’t news. The LGBT community are only really good for dramatic or shocking storylines and don’t tend to get treated as equal loving human beings, who live day to day lives just live everyone else.
Which is kind of the thrust of the report.
I would like to see more balance and better representation – but how do you balance that with artisitic licence especially when some genres such as comedy concentrate on identifying the differences …
Firstly, yet again this infers that being camp is purely stereotyping and something to be resisted. This attitude is really not helpful to acceptance of gay men, especially when we consider the fact that many gay people are indeed camp. However, many are not and therefore a cross section of gay people that represents all types of gay people is important. I generally most are represented on TV programmes, it’s just that those who are not “camp” fall below the radar and therefore people only tend to take note of those who are. Let’s take a look at some of the gay characters on TV. Those who are camp: Graham Norton, Paul O’Grady, Sian Tully (coronation street) etc. Those who are generally not: Derren Brown, Dr Christian Jessen, Simon Amstell , Stephen Fry, Sir Ian McKellen, etc, those somewhere in between, Christian (Eastenders), John Barrowman, etc etc there are just soooo many and some are camp some are not. Same goes for lesbian TV personalities. Perception rather than reality??
If it has been reported accurately here then this study was not a study into whether “flim” actually does stereotype gay people, but into whether members of the public believe it stereotypes gay people. There is a significant difference. between the two.
Secondly “film” is rather a large thing to comment on. Obviously there are legitimate concerns about the output of modern film industries, but “film” could include everything as far back as the 1890s from across the world. I suspect a lot of the respondents were discussing their impression of films in general, including those going back many decades. Can we really draw any meaningful conclusions about modern media representation of LGBT people from the starkly homophobic films of the 1950s and 60s or the camp stereotyping in the 70s and 80s? Yet I don’t see how the questions this survey asked differentiate between historical attitudes in films and those portrayed in modern ones.
LOL, who the heck funded this study? More to the point, haven’t they got more interesting and meaningful ways to pass the time. Like watching paint dry? Sad.
We are always stereotyped. It’s lame.
I must admit I get seriously p*ssed off with all the stereotypin being used in films – it’s lazy and patronising. I was unfortunate enought to watch the film Skyline the other day and it was absolutely appalling -when the aliens were trashing the city it was the men who went outside and waved guns around leaving the women in the apartment in their underwear basically being pathetic. I don’t care if the film was aimed at 14 year old boys, in fact it makes it worse. What was really funny tho was the way the cast were killed off in order of their “morales” or ethnicity. The adulterers went first, then the smoker, then the latino! Two straight whites at the end of the film. FFS! Sian
Oh get over it!!
People complain about stereotyping because it is considered the “average, typical, accepted norm” of a particular type of person or thing. That does notmean there aren’t exceptions to the rule, but it is simply what most people envisage.
What’s a stereotypical Estate agent like? Or an Irishman? or a Young Tory?
Yes, we all have ideas conjured up, so what? Let people use stereotypes, you don’t have to be one of them.
Cause the journalists on here are just filling time during their lunch hour before heading back to Boyz magazine.
It sounds like you don’t like Pink News – perhaps you shouldn’t read it.
Are you suggesting this wasnt a serious report …
Also, there is a lot of serious journalism being reported on in pink news at the moment – with the occasional light hearted article (I dont consider this particularly heavy, nor for that matter light weight)
Its a piece of research that has been published whose content is relevant to the LGBT communities … where is the problem in reporting that?
Meanwhile you’re at the pub getting drunk before going home to beat up your wife (whom you married because you think that being gay is a sin)
That was directed at Paddyswurds obviously.
Wow, its like you’ve known me all my life.