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Brighton Pride to charge up to £17.50 entry fee

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  1. Jock S. Trap 16 Mar 2011, 3:49pm

    Seems a fair price if it means a better and hopefully safer Brighton Pride. I’ll be there.

  2. Stuart Neyton 16 Mar 2011, 4:15pm

    Is this really what pride is about?? Any charge is wrong but this is extortionate.

    Pride is a protest, get capitalism out of it, smash the pink pound!

    1. de Villiers 17 Mar 2011, 12:07am

      The price is expensive for many people but the call for the Red Revolution is perhaps a bit too passionate. Pride should be for all gay people who fit within all the colours of the rainbow flag – not just the red stripe.

  3. If you charge, it’s got to be better than before. Look at what happened in London: they started charging as if it were a festival, held it in Finsbury Park or Newcastle or wherever the hell it was and it just got increasingly pants before being totally overhauled from the arse up.

  4. Wait for all the tight-fisted queens to squeal like stuck pigs when they have to put their hands in their purses. They complain about not enough events, yet expect it all to be paid for, even when they would think nothing on blowing fifty quid on a pair of designer underpants.

    1. Staircase2 17 Mar 2011, 5:18pm

      what on earth are you talking about?

      this is PRIDE not an F’ing party – its a gay rite of passage – and on those terms it should be free. How can a closeted person be expected to walk into a shop and buy a ticket for F’s sake?

      Equally how can people on a low income afford to go on that basis?

      THe fact theyre giving away cheaper tickets locally and some freebies (as I understand it) to local organisations doesnt address those two points above.

      Plus (again as I understand it) Pride weekend is Brighton’s largest single revenue generator – this decision has HUGE implications for local businesses too which dont appear to have been properly thought thru.

  5. I think £17.50 is too much but thank Gaga they have ticketed it.

    No, Pride should not be free.

    1. Agreed.
      I think its disgraceful that they think a quarter of the usual tickets and excluding everyone who doesnt have one is the spirit of pride.
      What about the other 115,000 people who were going?
      That extra income would have been a great boost to the area.

      Excluding people because they dont have tickets is not what pride is about!

    2. Jock S. Trap 17 Mar 2011, 9:27am

      That price is at the gate though on the day. I think £8.50 early bird or £12.50 isn’t really asking too much. Lets hope it’s Does give some kind of crowd control though or it will be a waste of money.

  6. this is sick how do they think wwe are all rich last year they said they could do it at 25p a ticket so what are they playing at. for one thing pride is not about charging people all i can say is GREEDY ****

  7. just gona say i don’t mind paying to get in put 17.50 is too much

  8. Helen Wilson 16 Mar 2011, 6:02pm

    £17.50 to get into a public park! is that even legal?

    Brighton just lost my cash i would of spent over the weekend.

    1. £17.50 wouldn’t buy you a couple of rounds of drinks, so I don’t know which planet you are coming from.

      1. Helen Wilson 17 Mar 2011, 10:03am

        £17.50 to get in! So they are now charging you to enter a public park and get ripped off by the commercial stall holders and beer tents charging extortionate prices.

        I would of paid £5 to get into the park, but not £17.50, that’s just a rip off!

        Bye Bye Brighton, I’ll be trying Oxford or Reading pride instead.

  9. And whos pockets is the said £375,000 going to line?

    1. Mary, you’re a twat.

      1. and you’re an offensive knob Spanner – say something constructive.

        1. Mary is a homophobic Christian troll that loves to stir up trouble.

  10. The thing is you’re not just ripped off at the gate with these things – the tat stalls and extortionate booze franchises inside rip you off again. The participatory community event finishes when the march is over.

    1. Jock S. Trap 17 Mar 2011, 9:29am

      That is a good point. They should do a deal with the entrance price covering a coupe of drinks or something.

  11. Mumbo Jumbo 16 Mar 2011, 7:10pm

    Sadly, if more of the people attending had just troubled themselves to throw a couple of quid into the donation buckets these past few years, we wouldn’t be in this situation.

    1. Staircase2 17 Mar 2011, 5:25pm

      not true

      theyre selling the idea of a ticket price as being about ‘safety’ and crowd control (ie limiting how many people inside the event can spend money)

      plus the minute they make it a ticketed event all the costs go up astronomically:
      1) they have to pay for fences
      2) they have to pay security to police the fences
      3) artists performing will probably and justifiably (like London) now expect to be paid to perform
      4) the local authority will expect to be paid for the clean up
      5) Police have to be paid to police the event
      6) Fire too I would imagine
      7) etc etc

      Its STUPID – it was a bad idea in London (several times!) and its a bad idea for Brighton and for Brighton Pride.

      London Pride eventually collapsed under the weight of the stupidity of that action. Brighton will too.

  12. And Pride becomes a business opportunity for yet another city. This has followed Manchester into becoming about making money and not about marching for equality and celebrating sexual liberty.

    I’ll be doing exactly what I did last year – giving my time to a more worthy cause.

    1. As opposed to one of countless flops where Prides have gone bust through lack of financial support? You obviously have no concept whatsoever of what it costs to put on an event such as this. This is not profiteering, it’s breaking even so they can do it again next year. The cost of simply policing and security alone is astronomical. What would you suggest? Get the local council to pay? Or maybe rattle some buckets?

      Like I said in my first comment, the majority of selfish little queens on here never want to put their hands in their pockets, and then wonder why nobody bothers any more.

      1. Staircase2 17 Mar 2011, 5:31pm

        listen you spanner – its NOT about money – theyre selling it as being about ‘safety’ and limiting numbers…..

        youre right: it IS astronomical to put on an event like this – and now, thanks o this idiotic half-baked decision, its going to cost an enormous amount more! while simultaneously limiting the number of people inside to spend money. (Which will very likely impact on the numbers of businesses interested in taking part – thereby generating less cash than they had before)

        One year London Pride had to call the whole thing off as they hadnt sold enough tickets! Gradually people had got more and more pissed off with the event and simply stopped buying tickets which meant the whole thing collapsed.

      2. Whilst it is clearly none of your business, your assumption about my knowledge (or otherwise as you suggest) on the cost of Pride is wrong. Not everyone who believes in the concept of Pride is a “selfish little queen”.

        It is clear that local taxpayers should not pay for such an event, but if local businesses want to showboat such an event (and correspondingly make a fortune on the back of it) then they should be the ones bankrolling the events.

        And it might interest you, Spanner that less than 1% of the money made on the back of Pride events goes anywhere near the charities or causes for whom the events are created in the first place. I’d call that profiteering.

        May I suggest a little research before making ill-informed comments.

      3. Selfish little queens? I think your terminology is disgusting and offensive, so your either homophobic or extremely stupid! Keep your opinions, and your offensive names to yourself!!!

  13. God bless gay people. We need a religious gay leader to fight the straight Christian attacks. We know there are strong gay Christians out there who can help. We need you to help us gays to get equal rights and married.

    1. Have you been at the Vodka?

  14. This is sad, pride is meant to be a safe space for lgbt people and £17.50 is a lot to some people. What about young closeted lgbt people, they can’t exactly ask their parents for the money and for families and people without jobs who want to go this is a lot of money.
    I personally think it should be free but wouldn’t mind spending under a fiver for something as important as pride.

  15. Rather than argue whether there should be a charge, you need to ask whether it is value for money. £17.50 to walk round a few stalls, join hundreds of others packed into a tent to listen to very loud music or go on a fair ride is not value for money. You can see most of the stalls at other events that don’t charge an entrance, I can go to a pub free to listen to loud music or just stand in James St. near the Bulldog, and the fair doesn’t charge an entrance when it visits at other times. So you are paying an entrance fee just to be part of a large Gay gathering. I suggest just sticking with the parade.

  16. ever since some marketer coined the phrase pink pound we are as easy targets

  17. I doubt there’ll be much money in the buckets for charities if people have had to pay 17quid to get in.

    If they organised the bucket collectors better and had people file past them at the entrance with big signs saying what the expected donation was they would have made twice as much last year.

    1. I’ve seen it happen in the past at other Prides. People just chuck their shrapnel and loose change at them, if at all. I never once saw a note.

      Also note, £17.50 is on the day, you can get them for £12.50 in advance.
      I would imagine they have costed the whole event, been told the maximum numbers allowed, and then divided it down accordingly. Most of the people will be working for free, the stalls will have to pay a fee, and they may also get some funding from various places.

      Just do a few quick sums and you will see that this is an expensive undertaking, and the money has to come from somewhere.

      Even people that go on about the march do not appreciate that that in itself has to be regulated and controlled with both police and stewards, barriers set up, security monitored and things like public liability insurance covered. You cant just decide to march down a street any more.

  18. Christ, even if I could afford that on top of everything else, I wouldn’t be willing pay it. Nice to see money hungry bastards have infected yet another previously enjoyable thing in this world and ruined it. I know they had to charge something to cover costs, but that really takes the piss.

  19. Barcelona Circuit Week in August here I come!

    1. Mumbo Jumbo 17 Mar 2011, 1:30pm

      Yes, with flights and accommodation you should easily be able to do that for less than a tenner.

  20. I can personally understand both sides of the argument. But looking at how many ropey soap-dodgers who were there last time I’m not surprised they’ve tried to implement a charge. It was rough.

    It’s expensive for a ticket but as Spanner said they do need to make their money. Donations have been down a lot and the good will of those who would otherwise contribute is running dry (especially in this economic climate).

    I come from London, £17.50 for an all day event in the grand scheme of things isn’t that much. It’s not about capitalism or really lining one’s pockets. It’s about keeping an institution going and if that means a monetry sacrifice (which is rather small) then so be it.

  21. Hmmm, £17.50 on the day is a bit steep but I expect the organisers have to pay a big sum of money for public liabilty insurance and I expect the Police want money towards the security costs. Pride has become a bit more than just a protest.

    1. Jock S. Trap 17 Mar 2011, 3:49pm

      Will £17.50 keep the homophobic creeps out though?

      1. No, but they’d be less inclined to pay to attend a gay event if they have to pay for the luxury of flinging insults.

  22. For those of us well outside Brighton and Sussex; aswell as on low incomes wether working or not;, the entry charge, on top of grossly extortionate train etc prices just makes attendance impossible. Als I suspect the charge for the rickety buses to/from city centre will rise.
    If there were a very small entry charge for those on low-incomes of whatever sort, even on the day, and not more than say £4-5 then it might just, but only very just, be worth getting down there.
    I do not stay all day as I used to anyway cos it’s just too much hassle- the trains are dangerously overcrowded, and the food and entertainment prices in the park- apart from a few charity groups, are also extortionate. I only want to get a bite to eat , visit the community stalls,then leave these days. Why pay well over the odds for that?

    Forget the spanner twats twaddle

    1. I am not surprised you don’t have a job, judging by the way you write. Sort out your spelling and syntax, for God’s sake!

      £17.50 is about 2 hours worth of drinking and chips, grow up everyone. Everyone demanding something for nothing has got this country into £2.3 trillion worth of debt!

      1. Staircase2 17 Mar 2011, 5:37pm

        you doughnut!
        he never said anything about not having a job

        what is it with you Knee-Jerkers?!

        And YOU have a capital ‘U’ where it shouldn’t be in your name – his writing is fine – and very coherent – whereas yours is rant.

        Plus I suggest you try doing some research into what the breakdown of the UK debt is before showing yourself up like that.

    2. Oh don’t talk rot. Have you ever seen a poor gay guy? ;)

  23. gino meriano 17 Mar 2011, 2:34pm

    what a rip off, if they sorted their finances out in the past there would be no issue surrounding charges. THey have failed the community and Im sure many wont support the event now.

    1. Yet again, you’re not listening.

      Brighton Pride has relied heavily the generosity of the LGBT community within Brighton. Fundraising is an important part of this event and in the past it has allowed the event to go ahead.

      But it all costs and there is so much the organisers have to take into account – and it all costs money.

      Moan all you like but at least they’re not cancelling it.

      Let’s also face it. Over the past two years it’s got a lot worse too. It’s not a safe event anymore – the last couple of times I’ve been have been really unenjoyable.

      £17.50, it’s not a lot. £12.50 in advance and Southern Trains offer great advance booking deals means you can get there and back for about £20 on the day.

    2. No, the selfish “community” have failed them by not putting their hands in their pockets in previous years, so now they are forced to charge.

  24. Staircase2 17 Mar 2011, 5:11pm

    What a steaming crock of poo!

    Ms Manson says: “We’ve kept ticket prices as low as we possibly can. I just have to remind everyone why we are doing this – to make it safer and more enjoyable for everyone.”

    “In a statement posted on Brighton Pride’s website, organisers said the ticket prices were justified to control visitor numbers, fund “frontline LGBT services” and dissuade troublemakers.”

    How does charging entry make it ‘safer’? And how did they come to a figure of £17.50?

    Im not convinced by the argument that this was necessary at all. It smacks of Pink Pound thinking which says that we should pay for any kind of gathering. I think its hypocritical to pretend this is about ‘safety’.

    I wont be going and I suspect a lot of other people won’t either.

    Its like they havent learnt anything from the London Pride fiasco which (ironically) Brighton profited by in terms of people shunning London and instead going to the Brighton Pride which was free.

  25. Will it all be fenced off or will there be a free area? What about the public? There’s always been families wandering around and learning which gives us tolerance in the long run. Essex pride does something similar which has been a good idea for the past couple of years. If we loose their support then the whole event is just a waste of time really

  26. Firstly, let’s keep the personal attacks out of this debate. You really shouldn’t judge what people say on their ability to write ‘perfect’ English.

    There is some truth to the saying that you don’t get something for nothing. In the past Brighton Pride has been kept free through sponsorship and the work of a lot of hard-working volunteers – and the contributions of some of those attending. In reality, few gave much for a number of reasons including selfishness. The same thing happened with London Pride back in the days that it was free. Eventually the income from all sources became insufficient to put on a free ‘party in the park’. In time that led to a ticketed event which worked only while attendees felt that they were getting value for money. This also eventually failed, with the private backers who had under-written the costly event for several years never making a penny. Fact.

  27. Let’s just charge the straight people £17 to get in. This will deter the homophobes and troublemakers thus reducing the cost of providing security, ensure that all us queers will have plenty of space in the dance tents and any monies raised could be used to provide free beer for us and shuttle buses to and from the promenade. Sorted!

    1. what a fantasy world you live in

  28. Ian Townson 19 Mar 2011, 11:48am

    Unfortunately we live in a celebrity culture. This gives the impression that people as rich, famous and conformist as Elton John represents the typical LGBT person. Most LGBT people are working class and either low paid, unemployed or on welfare benefits. Charging for Brighton Pride will keep this ‘rabble’ out and ensure the event is safe for the well heeled – like gated cities for the rich.

    Pride has long sinced ceased to be political. They have even dropped the word ‘gay’ or LGBT from the Brighton event. This is a commercial event designed to absorb as much money as possible from the punters and, no doubt, would have been a pleasant day out had it been free.

    I and my partner will not be going. Perhpas we should set up an alternative free event somewhere else?

    Ian

  29. Lucas Abedecain 7 Apr 2011, 11:44pm

    Say NO to Brighton Pride’s Ticket Prices!

    Even if you can afford it, do not go, for those who can’t, we all were young once and there are those who are on low or no income that are gay. Stop Brighton pride becoming just about money and say No!

    Seek the alternative, go to https://www.facebook.com/pages/Reclaim-Brighton-Pride-for-the-LGBT-Community/132888280101342

  30. If a charge has to be made it would be much better to make it £3 to £5 that way most can afford it and you add that to the bucket collection it ll amount to a whole lot of money to pay for the organisation ect, If they charge the amount theyre intending to it will KILL the pride like it did in London ,Of course there is a another way you could Generate more money, charge the lesbians who want to come to the Gay Pride by the Kilo that way there would be loads of money , what a great idea.

  31. each year, ravers squat a near by beach, bringing a sound system, dancing the night away, as a kind of reaction to the beach venues who put up the prices for pride. Since this year even the park has an entry fee, nothing stop us to storm in another park near by, is a matter of organization, perhaps starting a facebook page and taking it from there…

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