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  1. All that success and still no Android app. They’ve been “developing” it for so long now that it’ll be yesterday’s technology by the time they pull their fingers out and finish it.

  2. whats with so much editorial on something so insignificant, clearly it is advertorial, so why wasnt it highlighted as such. and for that reason i wont be downloading it

  3. Benjamin Cohen 22 Feb 2011, 11:55am

    Advertorials are paid for, this is an interview not an advertorial. Grindr didn’t pay for it to be on pinknews. Every advertorial we have ever run is clearly labeled as such.

  4. Great, the app that purported to make life better/easier for gay men, yet pushed them underground and out of public sight by relegating their human relationships to mere virtual, sub-human encounters. It’s encouraged self-segregation and isolation because chatting to someone online is not actually a friendship or a relationship. Gay men are now becoming less visible in society because they don’t have to venture out the house and into the wider community anymore. They have less genuine friendships as most people they ‘meet’ they don’t actually ‘meet’ in person. It’s just another optical fibre cattle market, the grandchild of gaydar. As much as I dislike cruising, at least you meet someone in the flesh and have the opportunity for a face to face chat.

    It never even crossed my mind to consider this poor substitution for REAL human interraction. I can’t understand why anyone would think this was a great idea.

  5. Mmmmmm…. You must have a very shallow definition of friendship.

  6. Heard of it. Can’t get it. There are apps out there now that support most of the major platforms. Which makes Grindr somewhat of a niche product, so why the publicity?

  7. Shame the app is so unstable and infuriatingly slow to work. I also don’t particularly like the interface. it’s clunky.

    It has critical mass though and that’s what keeps most people using it.

  8. @mmmmmmmm it’s quite clear from your post that you have never used the app. I am not defending it (I actually find the whole process boring and more frustrating than anything else) but it’s clear you don’t know what you are talking about.

  9. @ mmmmmmmm:

    How is Grindr a poor substitution for real human interaction when it was made explicitly for such interaction? You see someone “in real life” and you decide immediately if he appeals to you visually or not. Grindr just speeds up that sifting process and saves you from awkward conversations etc. I’m glad that individuals who enjoy cruising now do it in the most efficient way possible.

  10. for the guys who dont know m or it is a troll we have deceided to ignore. Pink news will not inves in proper registration and is becomming increasingly rubbish

  11. Really? The interface is quite awful on this app, the so-called chatting is extremely difficult and there are more ads than one would want to wade through. I suppose it’s a nice try.

  12. Grindr is populated by an even shallower form of guy than Gaydar has- if that were possible. And yeah the whole interview just reads like one big promo for the application.

  13. James!

    Disappear, you are the thickest and most pointless poster on here.

    Skimble

    Erm, how does NOT wanting to have virtual friendships but ACTUALLY prefer meeting real humans make me shallow? Surely it’s the other way rond. Your logic is appalling! The fact I only want friendships with people I meet in person merely confirms that I prefer a deeper and more realistic relationship than you.

    Zefrog

    I’ve got friends who use it and they’ve shown me as I look on asking questions (oftern rolling my eyes). It seemed pointless no matter how they seemed to find it benefcial. More to the point, they all use it so they don’t have to venture from home. The more vulnerable then end up getting hooked on it. Great. Does that answer your question? Idiot.

    Lucius

    “How is Grindr a poor substitution for real human interaction when it was made explicitly for such interaction?”

    Erm no, it was made for you to choose friends/sexual partners as if they are on shelves in a supermarket, turning REAL PEOPLE into de-humanised products. How is that good for social cohesion and building trust between people? Or making gay people more visible so we are better accepted? It shifts everything to the impersonal, whereas better relationships grow out of personal contact.

    “You see someone “in real life” and you decide immediately if he appeals to you visually or not.

    But you at least see the REAL person. Photoshop, airbrushing, flattering light….all tricks used to deceive. I tried internet dating years ago and the guys looked nothing like their pictures, nor reflected their binary personalities. Disappointment can so easily be avoided by meeting REAL people and not avatars.

    “Grindr just speeds up that sifting process and saves you from awkward conversations etc.”

    Wonderful, it denudes you of social skills, making you more petrified of talking to REAL people. If you prefer to revel in a more shallow lifestyle, then go ahead, but you’ll just end up finding it harder and harder to chat someone up in person. Sad indictment of your life I guess.

    “I’m glad that individuals who enjoy cruising now do it in the most efficient way possible.”

    Christ, your relationships sound positively robotic and aseptic – you have a rather ‘I need to know what they can do for ME’ attitude. And your value of your fellow human is obviously next to nothing, so long as you’re getting the superfical boxes ticked. All sounds rather Thatcherite and contrived to me. If you are representative of what’s on Grindr, then I obviously made a good decision never to try it personally.

  14. de Villiers 22 Feb 2011, 3:06pm

    I, for one, have always been amazed at how gay people have been shown as being close in the most unlikely places.

  15. Grindr guys are Apple and blackberry guys. Such poor judgement will keep me away! Seriously though, they do need an android app, especially now it outsells Apple 2 to 1 and climbing fast.

  16. Meh. Easiest place to find trade without ever relying on a gizmo is hanging round your local park/public lav/woodland/car park after dark and seeing what happens. These type of applications just kill the cruising and sauna scene.

  17. i’m amazed at some of the comments here. grindr is just awful – yet another way for socially autistic guys to avoid any real social contact in favour of talking with a screen in hopes of a quick shag. why is pink news promoting it with this silly, fawning article about its shallow product manager?

    i agree with mmmmmmmm – grindr is just a more degraded version of gaydar. there’s nothing liberating about it, unless you’re the kind of guy who likes to ignore real people around you in search of virtual cock on-screen.

  18. That one wasn’t me either. If whoever wrote that knew me, they would know I loathe cruising.

    Whoever it is is obviously too loathsome and cowardly to attach his own name to posts, and pathetically attempt to make me look bad. Like I’m so popular on here already.

  19. Thanks Grindr – I am very happy to report that I found my life partner through you last year and we have been together ever since.

  20. Shane you found your life partner on Grindr? How long were you looking for a life partner in the real world? In all honesty its pretty sad that a cruising application brought you together. Am I wrong in assuming you still use Grindr with your ‘life partner’ to find casual hook up to join you both in threesomes? I doubt it, still each to his own.

  21. @ mmm…:

    Everything is coming online, from mobile phones to vacuum cleaners – increasing number of gadgets are getting IP addresses. How much longer do you think you’ll be able to differentiate between cyberspace and your beloved real world?

    I just don’t understand why you project your distaste of cruising so forcefully.

  22. Staircase2 22 Feb 2011, 5:37pm

    Grindr is the bastard son of Gaydar & Cottaging: in that it promises you everything and in truth delivers (mostly) nothing.

    We live in a time when our addictive use of technology has created a greater and greater space between people while simultaneously promising a greater connection.

    As if we aren’t all sex and internet addicted enough as it is this App turns every street corner into a virtual cottage. It takes every social situation and turns it into a potential cock hookup.

    Its horrible horrible horrible….

    While I am mindful that some people may be making human connections thru it I strongly suspect that for most people it promises the earth and delivers nothing more than fast junk food sex.

  23. Staircase2

    Excellent point – Grindr is little more than drive-thru sex. Meaningless, low-quality and probably bad for your (mental) health.

  24. Are ‘staircase’ and ‘mmmmmmm’ one and the same person? No one else seems to agree with mmmmmm or vice versa.

  25. Nah, if you look at other posts, I’ve laid into Staircase2……..

  26. This comment was NOT from me:

    “Shane you found your life partner on Grindr? How long were you looking for a life partner in the real world? In all honesty its pretty sad that a cruising application brought you together. Am I wrong in assuming you still use Grindr with your ‘life partner’ to find casual hook up to join you both in threesomes? I doubt it, still each to his own.”

    But still….

    Lucius

    “Everything is coming online, from mobile phones to vacuum cleaners – increasing number of gadgets are getting IP addresses.”

    You equate people and products? Wow, how human of you! Not everything should be done by internet – isolation breeds fear, intolerance and mental health problems.

    “How much longer do you think you’ll be able to differentiate between cyberspace and your beloved real world?”

    A lot longer than you, give how you insist on living your love life through a computer. It seems you hate the real world – was it not kind enough to you? Were you not man enough to deal with it? Again, your treatment of humans as online commodities suggests the problem lies with you and others of your ‘fear level’, not the rest of society.

    “I just don’t understand why you project your distaste of cruising so forcefully.”

    Because it is picked up by our anti-gay opponents and thrust back in our faces. Those of us who live decently and don’t drag our sex lives into parks and public toilets have to face the negative consequences too, you know. It just goes to show the myth of a ‘gay community’, since the most dominant seem to be the most anti-social. Cruising is incredibly selfish, it gets us all tarred with the same brush. Not that you’d care, you’ve made it quite clear you couldn’t give a stuff about how your beahviour impacts upon anyone else.

    The one good thing about Grindr is that it keeps those of you who have thusfar insisted on thrusting your sex lives into the public domain AWAY from it for a while.

  27. Some of you are so judgemental!
    We (gay men) complain about people judging us all the time, but loads of you are doing it here.
    Each to their own, if you like meeting people face to face good for you!
    If you like meeting people on Grindr or Gaydar etc good for you.
    If you like casual sex, group sex, threesomes, sex with your one and only, good for you!
    The guy that had the audacity to have a go at the guy that met his life partner on Grindr – Stop judging people – I hope you met your partner whilst you were out shopping or another “traditional” face to face way – I am presuming you have one.
    However you find love or sex carry on doing it, stop bitching about other people – get on with your own lives.

    Rob

    1. Well said rob, the bile and negativity that people are spouting says more about them than it does grindr

  28. Rob

    It’s healthy criticism of an app that gently coerces people into favouring the virtual world over the real one – by playing on their fears of being ‘visible’ to others and potentially judged by them. It basically says, ‘stay at home where you are safe’. It also says ‘it’s all about you and what you want, screw everyone else, they’re just pieces of processed meat for you to accept or reject at will’. That is not healthy for society, particularly as it causes minorities to self-segregate by reducing their points of contact with others within and outside of their community.

    Grindr is an opiate for the self-centred, vacuous, self-respect lacking gay masses.

    PS It wasn’t me that commented on Shane meeting his life partner on Grindr, my user name was hijacked (it’s happened to a lot of us on here).

  29. The criticism of the App is fine, ie clunky, slow etc! But criticising how people meet is!
    I don’t know anyone that just uses Grindr or similar as the only way they meet people, it works alongside a the other ways.
    Much like people str8 and gay that use dating sites. Each to there own!
    Your sweeping statements about it affecting society is ridiculous!

    Fair enough that someone hijacked ur name to comment on that persons relationship, it wasn’t specifically aimed at you I couldn’t remember who said it! Although someone else did say something similar too!

    I don’t think the virtual world is bringing an impending end to the world as we know it at the moment ………… unless you spend every waking hour on World of Witchcraft (or whatever it’s called) but that’s another story! :)

  30. RobSchendel 23 Feb 2011, 4:14am

    i surely would have expected an Android version, by this time.
    when one arrives, i’ll be looking to see what Grindr is all about.

  31. Hey, I’m 19, and I use Grindr every now and then. It helps me find other gay guys around me in certain places, like school or at a local hotspot. If you think I’m using this neat little app to whore myself out, you’re wrong. A lot of people do use it for sex – yes – but there ARE people that use it to meet new friends, dates, and whatever else. You’re just simple minded if you think that only socially awkward people will use it. Like seriously? Come on. There are socially awkward guys that use it to kind of evade the whole social interaction thing … but if you think that the majority of their user base is like that, you’re wrong. There are lots of people who just want to meet for coffee and go from there. They don’t ONLY use the app to meet people – we DO have lives . :/

  32. gee, u english guys are nasty bitches,
    cheer up lads.

  33. Luke

    Of all people, a 19 year old should be one of the least ‘in need’ of Grindr – you’re surrounded by other young people (school, college, university, discos, social clubs, random house parties…). You will most likely not have such a rich opportunity to meet new people ever again.

    Despite how much I detest Grindr, I can see how it is useful for meaningless, faceless, impersonal, opportunistic sex….but useful for making FRIENDS? Just talk to people for crying out loud! Using that app will just make you socially awkward around new people and you’ll grow dependent on it by feeling less confident in the company of strangers.

    Sorry, but if you’re 19 and you’re using Grindr already, you either don’t have much of a life/not very confident or you are just very opportunistic and see people in a very de-humanised way.

    I am glad I was fully developed as a human being before all this stuff came in. Grindr, in terms of its social networking powers, is as debilitating as Facebook, myspace etc…..it reduces freindships to the virtual level, convincing people they somehow have lots of ‘friends’ when in fact, they’ve probably never met half of them. And even then, most of their ‘contact’ with said friends is through through a computer pop up. Not healthy and, if you’d ever lived before such things came along, you’d know they are so boring in comparison to real, physical, face-to-face friendships and relationships.

    No wonder our youth are suffering so much from mental health problems and anti-social behaviour when they’ve rarely had to deal with society!

  34. Agree with mmmmmmmmm’s last comment. Why would a 19 year old need to use Grindr unless meeting someone led inevitably to sex. I’d have thought Grindr would serve some function for lgbts living in societies hostile to homosexuality who were hoping to meet partners etc without fear of reprisal but beyond that I don’t see the necessity for it unless you’re socially inept.

  35. CMYB

    Couldn’t agree more. Thank goodness I am as old as I am, I don’t have to deal with all social networking stuff. I quite like having REAL friends instead of avatars.

  36. de Villiers 23 Feb 2011, 4:33pm

    > gee, u english guys are nasty bitches,

    Alternatively, it is what is commonly known in France as “la pruderie anglaise”.

  37. grindr could be useful for making friends though to be fair, not everyone will be into sex or stuff!
    unfortunately some in the LBG community also only ever think about sex and think everyone else is just like them

  38. mmmmmmmm – Yes could age be what is driving you hatred – technophobe perhaps.
    Luke – Good for you mate! Obviously mmmmmmm thinks that it so easy to be gay at school and meet people just like that -because the British Society is wholeheartedly accross the board supportive of gay people – living in a bubble perhaps!
    Grindr is a good tool to use, and yes of course you can meet new friends on it – stop accusing everyone who uses it of being a whore. And anyway if people want to have lots of sex then let them (as long as its safe). Sooooooooooooooooo judgemental!

  39. Apologies for grammatical mistakes, writing on an iphone switching between tinterweb and grindr bit tricky (jk) ;-P

  40. Rob

    “mmmmmmmm – Yes could age be what is driving you hatred – technophobe perhaps.”

    Erm, not wanting technology NOT ruling my life isn’t being a technophobe, it means I don’t demote the human to the virtual. Not forgetting that I am under 35, hardly of the age where I am unable to use new technology.

    “Luke – Good for you mate!”

    How irresponsible, encouraging him to live as virtually as possible. Would you want your kid on Grindr? Actually, I’m sure you would.

    “Obviously mmmmmmm thinks that it so easy to be gay at school and meet people just like that -because the British Society is wholeheartedly accross the board supportive of gay people – living in a bubble perhaps!”

    Erm, isn’t using Grindr the ultimate in living in a bubble? What a prattish statement, you gimp!

    Now, if you left your Grindr/Gaydar/Gayromeo bubble from time to time, you’d see that straight people aren’t actually that scary. Jeez, you have some serious social paranoia going on.

    Also, er, why would a school kid need Grindr? Shouldn’t they be studying? Not to mention the age of consent is 16. Or do you want them all on it so you can get in with the younger ones? Perv.

    “Grindr is a good tool to use, and yes of course you can meet new friends on it – stop accusing everyone who uses it of being a whore.”

    I didn’t. But it’s true that it is designed ultimately for people picking up for sex. If you need an app to help you find virtual friends in the ether, then that says a lot about your social skills (or rather lack of). Trust in society is decreasing, this will only exacerbate that.

    “And anyway if people want to have lots of sex then let them (as long as its safe).”

    Nobody was saying they couldn’t. But I don’t think it’s positive for individuals or society as a whole to give approval to self-cheapening and treating sex as a commodity. As if sex addiction amongst gay men wasn’t bad enough already, this app just enables people to indulge in that addiction all the more. Obviously you put personal choice ahead of welfare. Presumably you’d think it was ok for 16 year olds to smoke heroin on their way to school in the morning.

    “Sooooooooooooooooo judgemental!”

    Indeed and with good reason. It will only have a negative overall impact on social cohesion and trust between members of society, stunting the development of fundamental bonds between humans. If you cut yourself off and increasingly form your relationships over the internet, then you will become fearful of meeting people in person. The younger you start, the worse it will be. Cue a series of phobias, depression and self-esteem issues from constantly being ‘analysed’ by other Grindr users. And this app hasn’t been round for long, the effects will not be known for a few years. And, once it’s been jazzed up for heteros as well, then goodbye to normal social relations.

    If that’s what you want, then you’re twisted. In the meantime, I’m quite happy not being signed up to any of these apps and making the most of my REAL personal relationships.

  41. Your comments are completely ridiculous – is your view the only correct one?

    “People HAVE to meet each other face to face otherwise it is not a proper relationship?”

    I would love to live in the world that you live in where it is so so easy to meet gay people, not the one where homophobic hate crimes are on the increase. Yes it is easier but is not yet easy.

    Not going to lower myself and name-call – however tempted!

    By the way I am no Gimp! I have never used Grindr for sexual purposes, I am happily married – oh no can’t use that term yet as our completely accepting society doesn’t quite deem me equal yet – happily civil partnered. I also have lots of relationships with people that I have met in many different ways.

    Yes the age of consent is 16 does school finish at 15 where you live, because near me in the real world you can attend school until you are 18. I’m not sure what you are trying to insinuate during the little rant about age, or where from the limited amount I have written that I would encourage kids to smoke heroin ??????

    I’m glad you are “making the most of your REAL personal relationships” as I couldn’t stand to have a “friend” like you with such closed off views, and I can imagine most of the people that would read these comments would think the same.

    Now p**s off and enjoy your boring life.

  42. I feel that Grindr is one of the best additions to the gay world for a while, it’s a social revolution. It does of course depend entirely on what you use it for and how you relate to other people generally. I love meeting people and making stories. If you want to see how exactly check out my kiss and tell, plain talking blog. http://www.groundbeef101.wordpress.com

  43. Rob

    “Your comments are completely ridiculous – is your view the only correct one?”

    It’s the most rational, human and progressive one, which promotes socialising in the real world instead of in isolation over the internet. SO, erm, yes. Basically.

    “People HAVE to meet each other face to face otherwise it is not a proper relationship?”

    Er, yes, that’s how a friendship works. If you never meet that person, then essentially anything they tell you can be false (and vice versa). They may not actually be the person/gender/age/height and with the education/lifestyle/family/life experience that they claim. Until you meet them, you stand a feline’s chance in fiery flames of actually knowing whether it’s true. A real friend is one you trust and to do that you really do need to meet them in person. Though I feel that from your isolationist world perspective, you wouldn’t understand the logic in that. Also, how crap is a ‘friendship’ when you just spend hours typing to someone you’ve never met? Or at best skyping? Seems pointless and isolating.

    “I would love to live in the world that you live in where it is so so easy to meet gay people, not the one where homophobic hate crimes are on the increase.”

    You do, unless you live on Mars. To be honest, you sound a bit paranoid. Do you fear everyone on the street is a potential attacker? Do you fear that if you are seen chatting with another man, people will assume you are doing each other and bottle you? The problem is probably down to you…..

    How have I managed to meet gay people, get laid and settle down with someone without resorting to Grindr or Gaydar? Erm, talking to people, getting to know them, making it known I’m gay so those more reticent feel comfortable enough to tell me, making the first move, NOT BEING PARANOID, being a good judge of character and knowing who to tell and who not to.

    Or are you in the closet? If you are, then GET OUT and live a bit!

    “Yes it is easier but is not yet easy.”

    What is/isn’t?

    “Not going to lower myself and name-call – however tempted!”

    You’ve already done that before, don’t try to pretend otherwise.

    “By the way I am no Gimp!”

    So what if you are, what you do hanging off the back of your own closed door is up to you.

    “I have never used Grindr for sexual purposes, I am happily married”

    So, erm, why are you so supportive of its use? And are you REALLY married, or is it just in one of those online worlds that you can create?

    “– oh no can’t use that term yet as our completely accepting society doesn’t quite deem me equal yet – happily civil partnered.”

    Hmmmm, you’ve got issues, haven’t you. Society accepting you is not directly related to the government affording you full and equal marriage. Don’t conflate the two. You are too cynical of society, especially when the overwhleming majority are so obviously on your side.

    “I also have lots of relationships with people that I have met in many different ways.”

    Proves my point all the more – none of us NEED Grindr. Need and want are easily confused, especially by the most selfish in society.

    “Yes the age of consent is 16 does school finish at 15 where you live, because near me in the real world you can attend school until you are 18.”

    School leaving age is 16. Sixth form and college are from 16-18, so they are not techinically classed as ‘school’. Perhaps you ought to go back into secondary education.

    “I’m not sure what you are trying to insinuate during the little rant about age, or where from the limited amount I have written that I would encourage kids to smoke heroin ??????”

    You implied I was a technophobe because of my age. That was false and I corrected you (thanks, apology accepted). As for the heroin, it seems logical that if you would condone a 16 year old using Grindr where they could be very easily exploited (remember, young gay men are more vulnerable than most) because they should have the ‘choice’, then you would presumably advocate them doing something else that is dangerous because it’s their ‘choice’. On that basis, I’d rather you stayed away from my kids!

    “I’m glad you are “making the most of your REAL personal relationships” as I couldn’t stand to have a “friend” like you with such closed off views”

    You mean, I don’t advocate everyone just doing what they want where it is detrimental to their own mental health and ability to interact within society. Creating barriers between ourselves and the world around us over a misguided notion of ‘safety’ is unhealthy. You wouldn’t want me as a friend because I’d frequently tell you that I thought your outlook on life was full of paranoia, fear and cynicism – you are clearly someone who cannot cope with your ideas being questioned or criticised. A good friend will tell you the truth from their perspective, not dance to your tune when you are totally in the wrong. Fortunately, I don’t have friends like you, which means my life is just dandy.

    “and I can imagine most of the people that would read these comments would think the same.”

    Use your imagination all you want, you seem to imagine a lot of things to be honest. And it’s all you’ve got in your little online world by all accounts.

    “Now p**s off and enjoy your boring life.”

    What was that about you not name calling? This is borderline, don’t you think? All I can see from what you have written is someone who is insecure, frightened, unjustifiably defensive and someone who is arrogant enough to theink they are beyond critcism. Now…who’s going to break the news to you about that……

  44. Grand Buff

    “I feel that Grindr is one of the best additions to the gay world for a while, it’s a social revolution. It does of course depend entirely on what you use it for and how you relate to other people generally. I love meeting people and making stories. If you want to see how exactly check out my kiss and tell, plain talking blog. http://www.groundbeef101.wordpress.com

    Wow, your parents must be just so proud their son turned out to be such a whore. And, worse still, so overtly slaggish, documenting every last gory detail of your penile exploits for the world to see.

    It’s a shame you have such little self-respect that you feel the need to broadcast this drivel across the web just so you feel that you are getting a bit of attention. I’m not sure what drives people like you who seem to feel that this is a worthy contribution to society. I guess there must be a niche market readers. Sorry to disappoint, but they won’t be people of much substance.

    Bridget Jones won’t be quaking in her boots just yet, one would imagine.

  45. mmmmmmm…
    Can’t be arsed to justify the rest of your idiotic statements and nor do I have to!

    The only thing I will say is for someone that talks about spending time in the real world and not relying on technology to meet people etc – you spend a hell of a lot on the internet/this thread scribing your bollox!

    I Thank You!!

    :)

  46. Rob

    Whoah, not so fast Bobby Davro, perhaps if I wasn’t sat at home recovering from surgery and not working, then maybe I would be out at the pub or playing sport like normally am. Have you not noticed my posts have only been so intense in the last few weeks?

    And, despite being at home so much, I still haven’t turned to Grindr or Facebook.

    No sir, I thank you :)

    (Licks finger, touches nipple, fizzzzzz).

  47. Grund Buff that blog of yours is hilariously bad. A few malaprop typos that totally changed the perspective of your ‘exploits’. Are you hoping Channel 4 happen upon your ramblings and do a “Diary of a Call Girl” style show based on it? An evening class in creative writing and access to the internet do not a writer make. I’m all for whoring but not when its dressed up in bad writing.

  48. There is a beta kicking around… which is under an NDA, I got hold of it and signed the NDA in hope of some more information… it’s a very slow development process.

  49. Jock S. Trap 25 Feb 2011, 8:27am

    Too many negative people buttin into other peoples personal life. I know a few people with Grindr. Mixed reviews but seriously so long as it doesn’t bother anyone else who care who uses this and for whatever they want to use it for.

    May I suggest some take a chill pill and maybe concentrate on their own lifes.

    If you don’t agree with how some choose to find sex, who cares, if you don’t do it it’s not your problem is it!!

  50. Jock

    Er, weren’t you the one moaning how there is no sense of community among gay men any more on another recent thread? About how people don’t look out for one another and how the social side of the gay scene is crap compared to 20 years ago?

    Well, Gaydar too a huge chunk of that ‘community spirit’ away and Grindr is the latest nail in the coffin of real human interaction between gay men.

    Of all people, I’d thought you’d understand the implications of healthy interaction between gay men.

  51. Jock S. Trap 25 Feb 2011, 11:32am

    Someone needs to learn how to read and not take some comments to suit there oh so boring contraversial rabblings. No to that point, I wasn’t moaning about anything. I was making an opinion on a different subject that has been taken to suit you.

    I have always said to You if it doesn’t bother anybody else and its consenting adult then what the frack has what people do got to do with you?

    Nothing thats what. Your just a bitter old …… you chose the word as I really can’t be bovvered.

    I do remember someone ranting how my name was soooo bad they couldn’t respond to it. What happen someone knicked ya balls?

    Sadly someone must have mine because I did say I didn’t want to comment to you. Your too much a sour little creepy troll trying to be all contraversial..yawn…

    I’ve said it before I’ll say it again can’t stand ya so please grow a pair and stop botherin. All you do it bitch everyone else without a proper argument and certainly not worthy of my time.

    ta!

  52. mmmm:
    There’s no point in pointing fingers at specifics, the Internet per se has destroyed what little ‘community’ there was.

    Let’s face it, gay men are driven by their dicks, so why should they bother hanging around in bars all night with a bunch of sad old men, spending a fortune in travel and drinks just to stand around all night getting bored sh|tless when they can do the same in the comfort of their own living room?

    In my opinion, there never was such a thing as a gay community anyway, it’s simply a bunch of like minded people that all happen to be going the same direction.

    Sites like Grindr and Gaydar serve the purpose they set out to do, ie: get shags.
    It was and always will be about meat markets and bugger-all to do with anything else.

  53. Jock S. Trap 25 Feb 2011, 12:56pm

    Oh My, there is some seriously bitter people about.

  54. Spanner

    I agree with you to a certain extent, but Grindr et al are just exacerbating it.

    Jock

    Forgot to take your meds this morning, did you? And I’m not as old as you, so less of that. Perhaps you like to make controversy, I don’t, I just tell it like it is. Unfortunately, as keeps being shown, you don’t really like the world being so REAL. If you aren’t prepared to be accountable to your other threads, don’t join in.

    TTFN

  55. Jock

    No, just realistic people. I know you hate the real world and that you’re scared of it, but some of us embrace it for all its faults and try to do something positive.

    1. I consider myself very realistic: I don’t get involved with other gay people because they are all a bunch of vain, selfish, self-centered wankers.

      No point in being bitter about it, just work around it.

      1. I try to be a bit more hopeful than that, but yes, most gay men I have met have tended to be of the superfical and vacuous sort. In one way that’s great because people see me as being different to other gay guys and I get much less hassle. But of course it makes you a bit invisible when you blend in too much.

        Still, it’ll never make use Grindr, eugh!

  56. Jock S. Trap 26 Feb 2011, 10:24am

    The Fact mmm…. and spanner seem to share the same hateful self-loathing bubble speaks volumes!

    1. Ah yes, another Labourite accusative term.
      If your straight and criticise gays, you’re homophobic.
      If your gay and criticise gays, you’re “self-loathing”.

      I like myself thank you very much.
      It’s just tossers like you that I can’t abide.

      1. Precisely. It’s always the real self-hating ones that accuse others of being self-hating. Which I don’t hate them for, but I do pity them. You see, gays love victimhood and if someone is confident, self-respecting and can conduct themselves with sufficient common decency that most people like them, then they are immediately hated by a certain proportion of gay men. Namely those who feel they don’t ‘fit in’ with society.

        But, yawn, I’m used to it. I get the same gibbering rubbish from waspish queens who hate the fact that I am not easily identifiable as gay. Why? One of them told me it was because I could hide the fact I was gay behind my ‘straight physique and mannerisms’ and they couldn’t. Am I supposed to feel bad about the way I was born? They need to get over themselves and stop creating this ‘us and them’ atmosphere. We’re all gay, but some of us just have more respect for ourselves.

        Jock, don’t you think it’s a bit sad how you just like to hate individuals for the sake of it?

        1. Clicks invisible *like* button.

  57. Who cares? Use grindr folks!

    The Americans seem to be less twitchy and bitchy then you uptight bores.

    Some gay dudes use around Capitol hill and founds LOADS of Republican closet cases! Now that’s what I’m talking about!

    A tool to out the Conservative hypocritical scum!

  58. This sums up every guy who uses Grindr: DESPERATE…

  59. This one is easy. Save your social and political opinions to yourself. As we are all individuals, we all might have varying beliefs. Secondly, If you dont like Grindr, don’t use it and zip yer piehole. I don’t like peas, but I don’t sit at the grocery store and tell everyone that buys them that they are freaks or stupid or anything else. Let everyone do what they want, and if it doesn’t work for you, that’s OK, but we do not need any more holier-than-thou types telling us how to live our lives. that’s kinda why I left the church in the first place, LOL!

  60. I’ve never used this grindr app (i dont have an iphone) but a lot of people criticising it on here are giving stupid reasons for doing so.

    I’d love it if when I was out and about gay people had a label above their heads. I doubt this app does anything like that, but why criticise people who use it when they’re out in order to meet gay people for friendship or dating. Some people don’t meet other gays every day and might want to improve their odds of doing so. Whats wrong with that?

  61. There’re many apps like Grindr… Zenkiu (www.zenkiu.net) it’s more powerful as features alerts by proximity, or GayBox has a wonderful interface with many options… Imho Grindr was, maybe, the 1st, but it shouldn’t be used as a “reference” app as many other are, at this moment, better or, at least, more convenient to use.

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