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  1. I wonder how it feels to be consumed by this much hatred.

  2. The bible is never far from comments like these.

    I am sure with priorities like these that Botswanas National Assembly will soon have the country the envy of the world.

  3. Dan Filson 11 Feb 2011, 4:21pm

    Botswana must have other matters with greater priorities surely than turning on its own population

  4. Red Gosans 11 Feb 2011, 4:39pm

    Wow. It’s pretty bad when a prison inmate sounds nicer and more cultured than that country’s politicians. I think those two should switch places. Give the inmate the government job and stick the MP in prison.

  5. Well I don’t like you love – strange how you are happy to accept money from the UK to assist your country – some of that money would have been donated by gay people.

  6. I’m sure the bible-thumping evangelicals from the U.S. are on their way over to further the hate agenda as we speak….

  7. Think of all the homophobes in UK who share his sentiment but who clothe it in a thin veneer…
    Andrea Minchiello Williams of the Christian Legal Centre,
    Steven Green of Christian Voice, The Christian Institute an organistaion that actively lobbies to oppose gay equality,
    Philippa Stroud of the oddly named Centre for Soclal Justice,
    Lesley Pilkington and “therapists” like her who claim to be able to change gay orientation to straight.
    Dr Hans Christian Raabe who slectively misrepresents research to portray gay & lesbian citizens in a poor light.
    The anti-gay industry run by Christian evangelical zealots is here.

  8. Dave North 11 Feb 2011, 8:37pm

    Once these African idiots are capable of supporting there own people, without stealing all of the money us idiots send them.

    Remember Live Aid: 1984

    I foolishly gave money to that.

    It bought guns and kept a rich man in more money. Millions died. Who cared.

    These people were ripe for the good old US of Arse evangelicals to go in.

    The POPE to add his control mechanisms.

    No wonder these people are screwed.

    Bloody religion, lack of education, and western religious cultures abusing them.

  9. Luke from Canada 11 Feb 2011, 8:41pm

    if its a product of a different culture and those cultures are doomed, as I have heard said, why is it africa where homosexuality is not welcome for the most part, far worse off thatn any other continent

  10. Interesting that he says he “doesn’t like gaysi”and “that if he had the power, he would have gay people killed.”……
    I’m sure there are countless gays who feel the exact same way about him….

  11. “The Bible does not agree with such a thing and therefore it is evil”

    He very clever man.

    “a culture away from our culture”

    Yes, your culture is evil and of low mind.

  12. No- homosexuality is not a culture away from their culture; there are as many homosexuals there as there are anywhere. What they DO have is a culture of homophobia, which is something to be ashamed of. Embracing diversity and social justice is one thing that makes Western culture good and which some other cultures need to learn about.

  13. I have nothing to add to the comments of others, other than to say that the unnamed inmate is a very brave human being for daring to speak out. I found what he said to be honest in its simplicity, and it must have been so difficult when faced with such an outpouring of hate to still talk of love.

  14. I don’t really understand all of the “holier than thou” mentality of the British, the reason for the vast majority of homophobia in Africa is British (and other) Colonial anti-buggary laws.

  15. Brendan, we cant keep blaming the ‘British’. I think we’ve got history to blame, now that Britain has moved on, I wonder why Africa hasn’t followed suit. African leaders and lawmakers (and indeed, people) are to blame. It is their responsibility to advance their country into the modern-day, and they have failed in this respect. I was born in West Africa, so I can be frank about this.

  16. Jock S. Trap 12 Feb 2011, 7:53am

    “They are demonic and evil.”

    Ironic comment isn’t it?

    When was the last time a Gay or Lesbian starved a country to improve ones own wealth?

    When was the last time a Gay or Lesbian commited genocide?

    When was the last time a Gay or Lesbian forced a war killing on others?

    When was the last time a Gay or Lesbian urged its laws to murder certain sections of society?

    I could go on but seriously how can they always have the front to blame every innocent person for action they themselves take?

    Hate is such a big strong word but what are the chances these kind of people actually know any Gay or Lesbians? It’s all yet again about the Bible. This is their idea of love!

    Sadly they will never live and let live, they will presecute, torture and murder, all in the name of religion and that is not Evil of course because to them their Bible justifies their cruel actions.

  17. The Heretic Philosopher 12 Feb 2011, 10:44am

    Yurifury you sound like another of the regular hit and runs we get on this site who when questioned turn out to know little or nothing about themselves, human sexuality, science, psychology, anthropology, theology, biblical scholarship and criticism, spirituality and religion, history, philosophy, etc. All they know how to do is project blame onto others and scapegoat others to deflect from their own failings and flaws, to judge and condemn others, to foster and promote fear, hate, separation, disunity and division. None of this has anything to do with God, who is the opposite of these things, so why pretend that it does.

  18. “a culture away from our culture”.

    That would be Christianity, you fool. And the Bible that this guy so lovingly refers to was used to defend the subjugation and enslavement of black people and used as ‘proof’ that they were evil and inferior (Curse of Ham etc).

    Homosexuality has been around in every country since the beginning of time. The only nasty Western import that Botswana is suffering from is a particular evangelical ‘christian’ bigotry.

  19. Brendan
    “I don’t really understand all of the “holier than thou” mentality of the British, the reason for the vast majority of homophobia in Africa is British (and other) Colonial anti-buggary laws.”

    You are what’s called an apologist. Botswana became independant in 1966, homosexuality was still illegal in Britain for another 2 years.

    For how long are the Africans or their apologists going to blame their ills on the British. It’s been 45 years. Another 45 years? 145? 400?

    Mugabe has wiped out all that he considered to be British and Evil. That’s why half the population has left. Botswana has had a much better record up till now, let’s hope they are not about to go the same way. Africa is running out of sane places where the sane people can run to.

  20. ”worse than pigs and dogs” – that belief is what the superstition of ‘religion’ does to a human being –

    ‘They are demonic and evil’ words that can only have a meaning for the backward faithful who fear life itself and have not evolved enough to be capable of respect for others –

    I for one am proud to have had evolved to be a homosexual –

  21. Homosexuality has been around as long as the human race. The joke called religion, is a moment in time in comparison and will soon be gone for good.

  22. RedDevil “Homosexuality has been around as long as the human race. The joke called religion, is a moment in time in comparison and will soon be gone for good.”

    I’m afraid religion has been around that long as well. Man has always looked to the supernatural as a reason, and an excuse, for their existence. As Voltaire once said, “If God didn’t exist, man would have invented him.”

    I don’t think religion is going to go away any time soon.

  23. Jay, well said, you hit the nail on the head!

    Brendan, the UK wasn’t alone in its colonial pursuits in Africa. What about the French, the Belgians and to a smaller extent, the Italians and Portuguese?

    Look at South Africa, a former colony, it now has same-sex marriage. Stop blaming the British for every damn thing that’s wrong with the African continent. They won their independence from us and determined their own destiny, their own education and legal systems. Its not our fault they haven’t evolved, let alone moved on. If S. Africa and India can do it, so can the rest, just like the Irish Republic did after 800 years of British rule.

    About time we booted these backward countries out of the commonwealth altogether, we get nothing out of it and they get financial aid on the backs of the British taxpayers including gay people. Starve the bastards I say.

  24. I’m not really sure why people are so determined to blame the colonial West for ALL the bigotry espoused through Christianity in these countries. On that basis shouldn’t we be giving the Middle East a mouthful for creating Christianity and forcing it onto us through various intermediaries? Or just direct our attention to the Roman Empire and give the Italians some grief for it too?

    The land mass that is now the UK was indoctrinated by Christianity by invaders, but we’ve managed to start reversing that process. Why are African countries any different? The only thing stopping them is their inability to analyse their own society or form a government that can think rationally. Which has nothing to do with the UK anymore. Sorry, but this post-colonial guilt stuff has to go. Otherwise we’ll start blaming everyone else for every ill in our societies by tracing it back through history to points that are not relevant.

    The US Evangelic missionaries, no they have more to do with upholding the status quo than we do.

  25. mmmmmmmmmmmm, you make some excellent points, spot on. To stretch it further to satiate Brendan’s opinion, we might as well blame present day Italy for 400 plus years of brutal Roman occupation and oppression. Then there are the Danes (Vikings) and after them the Normans who oppressed us. Its absurd to blame us for the ills of other countries that may or may not have been a former colonies, we weren’t the only ones.

    I wouldn’t mind betting that even President Obama who doesn’t like the British for what a past British government did to his father in Kenya would blame us to for much of Africa’s problems. He already condemns us for the slave trade, but dismisses Spain’s involvement. Go to many of the South American countries and you’ll find more people of African descent than there are in the United States combined. He doesn’t even know his history that well because slavery, if you go back two thousand years or more in Africa was started by its indigenous peoples. The Romans invaded parts of N. Africa and were among the most notorious for importing slaves back to the Italian peninsula, including some Brits.

  26. Robert

    Indeed. The bottom line is we can’t blame the actions of others in the past for every problem in our societies today. We have issues stemming from African and Asian immigrant communities in the UK today, but I don’t intend to chastise their home countries for it, it’s up to us to sort out as we’re the ones who let them in. I wish people would focus on the ‘today’ and not look to ‘yesterday’ for culprits. Otherwise we could all just legitimately blame Germany and Japan for everything!

  27. He doesn’t even know his history that well because slavery, if you go back two thousand years or more in Africa was started by its indigenous peoples

    I think you’ll find slavery goes as far back as recorded history does in most parts of the world (except possibly the Indian SubContinent).

    Sorry, way off-topic.

  28. I wish people would focus on the ‘today’ and not look to ‘yesterday’ for culprits.

    I couldn’t agree more. It’s one thing having an awareness of how cultures have developed, it’s quite another to avoid dealing with the present by blaming past events

  29. He’s entiled to his opinion. Thats what freedom of speech is all about. Something we in the UK need a hell of a lot more of.

  30. Oh, dear. A sensible prisoner and a bigoted idiot of a politician. What a crazy world.
    Homophobia isn’t indigenous to African cultures. Bible-black missionaries have a lot to answer for.

  31. Dr Robin Guthrie 12 Feb 2011, 9:12pm

    US NOM Missionaries have a lot to answer for.

    As does the Roman Catholic church.

    They caused this mess.

  32. Dr Robin Guthrie 12 Feb 2011, 9:20pm

    Herr Pope Ratzinger teaches these ignorant African idiots that condoms causes Aids.

    These churches are losing control of the educated in the West hence their furtherment into these ill educated countries.

    Who is going to keep paying for these grand churches, golden vestries and political influence.

    There we go.

    Get the poor and ill educated to cough up.

    Do you think for one instant that some poor Botswanan oppressed by the lies of whichever Church will ever see the inside of the Vatican.

    That Multi Billion dollar child abusing empire that is as has been discovered, is above the Law.

  33. He’s entiled to his opinion. Thats what freedom of speech is all about. Something we in the UK need a hell of a lot more of.

    Quite right, Joey; Hitler was entitled to his opinions too, come to that. Where it could possibly become dangerous is when people in power make statements like this which can be mistaken for policy.

    I for one would be happy for it to remain the case that no-one in Britain today could make an evidently bigoted (not to say ignorant and uncivilised) statement like this and expect to be taken seriously.

    But of course you’re entitled to your opinion too.

  34. I think the UK, the un and most importantly the church of England need to speak out more strongly , I think the attitude of leaving Africa sort itself out over homophobia just doesn’t work..

    9th Feb

    Simon Kirby: To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has had discussions with his Commonwealth counterparts on discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people; and if he will make a statement. [39191]
    Mr Jeremy Browne: The UK opposes discrimination against Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) people. We believe that human rights are universal and should apply equally to all people, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity. Government Ministers and officials raise the rights of LGBT people during meetings with Commonwealth counterparts. As previously mentioned in my response to my hon. Friend on 1 February 2011, Official Report, column 708W, I recently visited Jamaica, Barbados, and Trinidad and Tobago, and raised LGBT equality during discussions with government officials and non-government organisations.

    In July 2010, the Prime Minister launched a programme of work which will ensure the UK continues to push towards LGBT equality both at home and abroad. This includes a commitment to proactively question those Commonwealth countries which retain homophobic legislation and to push for unequivocal support for LGBT rights internationally

  35. Thankyouandgoodnight 13 Feb 2011, 8:14am

    Right, fair enough. Next disaster or rampage/marauding in Botswana (won’t take long) = NO AID from the UK whatsoever.

  36. Oh dear. How many times do I have to tell these people: THE BIBLE IS A MADE UP STORY BY A CRACKPOT ROMAN EMPEROR.

    Brendan, personally, I blame the French.

  37. Brendan, the British cannot be blamed for the primitive non progressive stupidity of these backwards thinking African officials.

    It is time to stop blaming history as if it is an excuse. There is no excuse for even suggesting that genocide can be justified. Maybe though, this is evidence that these people are not capable of running a country in modern times.

    Would we let a five year old play with a loaded gun? No, of course we wouldn’t! So why is it in African countries people with the IQ of a 5 year old can run a country and be in charge of armed police and even an army?

  38. Oh dear. How many times do I have to tell these people: THE BIBLE IS A MADE UP STORY BY A CRACKPOT ROMAN EMPEROR.

    Eh? Would that be the same Bible that most of us refer to, three-quarters of which predates any Roman emperor?

    I have no love of people who place an exaggerated value on the scriptures, but let’s at least get our facts right.

  39. john sharp 14 Feb 2011, 6:29am

    i am in south africa
    and gay culture is as much african as any culture
    not seeing that is the stupid and backward thing
    may be he has all is fingers up his ass
    that he is unable to see the world reality around him
    the same goes with any other BIGOT Black and Muslim leaders.
    Gay is natural live with US .

  40. Rehan, obviously I was referring to the last quarter…

    Alright, it does sound better not to get facts wrong before slagging off something.

  41. BRA ZOWSKY 15 Feb 2011, 2:41pm

    yall sound lyk a bunch of gays,,diz iz indeed a “culture away frm our culture”
    if u fnd it natural up der in ur western countries for a man to f*** anda,FINE,kip 2 urslf we wont tolerate dat here in afrca,it wznt der in the beggining,,
    s wy start nw???

  42. And we moan about our lives. At least we are lucky to live in a country which for the most part doesn’t treat those who are a little ”different” to the mainstream (through NO fault of their own) like some sort of evil trash. Bless all those people suffering in the world today because of the brainwashing dominance of hate filled, idiotic, ficticious religious crap. I have faith though, all will be right in the end.

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