Very sad. I think the LGB community should do more to help the T community. We once suffered from discrimination just as bad, so our efforts are not dissimilar. Sadly I know many gay people are rather idiotically believe that transgenderism is a choice. Sexuality can’t be a choice, but gender apparently can. Come on – get real!
I totally agree with ‘Paul 22′; the only choice we get it to wether to deal with it or live our lives a misery and maybe even commit suicide.
What always makes me chuckle is people always say America ‘The Land Of The Free’ or ‘The American Dread’ I fail to see that with how LGBT people are treated.
Thankfully the U.K is a better place to live for trans folks; apart from maybe the odd brain-dead comment or maybe looks.
I’ve not had any problems with my social life, work etc..; but one of the biggest problems we face is a lot of trans material is very American based and I was convinced that coming to terms with who I am and telling people I would probably loose my wife, family, friends and job; but was prepared and everyone has accepted me and my marriage has got stronger.
“Transgender” is a very broad category, encompassing a range of different phenomena – from simple cross-dressing or just not conforming to gender stereotypes at one end to full-scale sex-change at the other. Most things it encompasses are biologically determined. Some are not.
But that doesn’t matter at all. The causes behind a phenomenon have no bearing on its moral standing. Arbitrary discrimination is unacceptable for any reason – be it something as innate as skin colour or something as freely chosen political leanings. Even if being gay and every single kind of transgender phenomenon were entirely and unambiguously freely chosen it would not change our responsibility to protect people.
“Very sad. I think the LGB community should do more to help the T community. We once suffered from discrimination just as bad, so our efforts are not dissimilar. Sadly I know many gay people are rather idiotically believe that transgenderism is a choice. Sexuality can’t be a choice, but gender apparently can. Come on – get real!”
Well said, Paul22. I don’t understand the human impulse to push down or descriminate against another group that has experienced similar if not the exact same descrimination as you. But it happens a lot. It’s the main reason the LGBT ‘community’ can be so contentious — but many of us still believe in it and it’s power to lift all sexual minorities and gender variant peoples out of the shadows of descrimination and all that brings.
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, “Martin Luther King Jr said. And it could also be added ‘injustice towards anyone is a threat to justice for everyone’.
“Even if being gay and every single kind of transgender phenomenon were entirely and unambiguously freely chosen it would not change our responsibility to protect people.”
Brilliantly said. And so worth repeating….
Hey, Pink News, get a ‘like’ or ‘recommend’ function on the site so we don’t have to cut-and-paste comments that really are worth being highlighted, such as VP’s.
It’s good to see such supportive comments on here. Important, also to bare in mind that many trans people also identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual within our authentic gender. The US is way behind the rights and responsibilities we have fought so hard for here.
I live in central london and have never met a transgendered person who has not experienced violence or discrimination. Unfortunately i had 2 trans friends who committed suicide because of the constant abuse, and another although diagnosed at charing cross hospital as being suitable for surgery, could no longer deal with the abuse and reluctantly started to live as a man again, he is now suffering depression . most trans women in particular face discrimination looking for work and hence many are sex workers as their options are greatly limited.I did read a survey of trans hate crime in the uk recently and apparently 94% had experienced hate crime. The uk is not a better place for the trans community.
So depressing. It is hard to find much to like in the human race at times.
rapture: you’re spot on in what you say.
I don’t know a single Transperson who has not suffered discrimination and most of them on a daily basis. I have seen people disappear (whether dead or returning to living as men due to the pressures of daily life), people driven mad, depression, violence, poverty…
i consider myself a very strong person and I’m lucky in that I am comfortably well off but the endless abuse and threats, the casual violence leaves me frequently depressed and feeling I’m unable to cope.
Transpeople are at the bottom of the pile and it’s not just in the US.
surprised? not at all. and an annoying amount of the ridicule comes from members of the lgb community
“I totally agree with ‘Paul 22′; the only choice we get it to wether to deal with it or live our lives a misery and maybe even commit suicide.”
So sorry to hear this. I do concur that the T is not very well understood, despite Stonewall. I pray that things will get better.
“I do concur that the T is not very well understood, despite Stonewall.”
There are those of us who are happy and willing to educate those who really want to try to understand us and what an insight into what being transgender is like.