Well, colour me surprised. Phelpsy gang don’t like a pro-gay film!
The mocking counter protest sounds brilliant. And here, at a mere film festival, appropriate. Not so much at funerals where its all just nasty beyond words.
Oh, sweet poetic justice.
I just so hope it does well and highlights the church’s terrible plight.
I think this is what another religion likes to call “Karma”.
Yeah, its nice to see these people getting a bit of their own medicine.
If they cant stand the heat…..
Not surprised at all. Phelps would probably be murdering GLBT people if he thought he culd get away with it. I hope the films does really well and people get to see what a farce Phelps and these other homohating preachers are…only they are a deadly farce.
No, you loons – we’re mocking YOU and your pathetic little bigotry.
This idiot has the audacity to say someone else is “mocking God”. You and your inbred clan of haters are the ones who mock God. You are the sickest representation of all religions and you and your ilk are the main reason I shun the very doorsteps of any church.
SICK!! SICK !! SICK!!
If the divine judgement the Phelps wittier on about existed, the Arizona shooter would of gone after the Phelps clan and not decent members of society.
If God existed then the loons with guns would go after the loonies with god hates fags signs.
When are these prize plonkers ever not furious?
You have to admit the WBC are entertaining and very funny. At least so long as it’s not someone’s funeral they’re picketing. Anyway God probably does hate cigarettes.
Can we get some God Hates Fags signs and wave them at smokers outside office buildings?
I like the way Phelps and that lunatic daughter of his insists on his 1st Amendment rights any time and every time he can, but never thinks others are entitled to that same right…. Hypocrisy is the bread and butter of organised religion, from the slightly tolerant to the lunatic extremists.
When to use commas
We use commas in two main ways:
Commas separate the items in a list.
Sometimes these items are real things.
E.g. I need some pens, pencils, paper and a calculator before I start my class.
I must buy some eggs, milk, sugar and tea.
Sometimes these items are things you do, or places you go.
E.g. Yesterday I went to work, played badminton, went to the pub and then went to bed.
I’m going to spend my holiday walking on the beach, sleeping in the sun and reading my book.
Always make sure you use and to separate the last two items in your list.
Make sure that you don’t use a comma before the word and at the end of your list.
Don’t use commas where you should use a full-stop. If the words could stand alone as a proper sentence then you need to put a full-stop or a joining word (‘and’, ‘but’ etc) in and not a comma.
‘Yesterday I went to work, I walked the dog, I went shopping and I washed the car.’
This doesn’t work as these could all stand alone as proper short sentences. If you want to write them as a list (for example, to show you were in a hurry, or that you had a lot to do) take out the ‘I’.
‘Yesterday I went to work, walked the dog, went shopping and washed the car.’
Commas mark out the less important part of a sentence.
This is a useful way to make your sentences more interesting by adding extra information.
E.g. The car, which was parked by the light, had a dog in the back seat.
This sentence is about the car and the dog, it’s not about where the car was parked.
Tony, his mum’s favourite, was given chocolate cake for tea.
This sentence is about Tony eating chocolate cake. We don’t need ‘his mum’s favourite’ for the sentence to make sense, it’s extra information.
Rajinda, the youngest in the family, is about to get married.
This sentence is about Rajinda getting married, it’s not about her position in the family.
HOW CAN I CHECK?
A quick way to check this second use of commas is to see if the sentence makes sense without the words between the commas.
The first sentence -
‘The car, which was parked by the light, had a dog in the back seat.’
‘The car ____ had a dog in the back seat.’
This sentence makes sense so the commas are in the right places.
those purporting to know it all, should, where possible, make sure that their own work is without flaw. Besides commas and grammatical indicators, it is always a good idea to make sure there is a space between words, otherwise the lesson becomes meaningless. Do not attempt to claim typo, oterwise you are at risk of being accused of ignoring carelessness on your own part while lecturing others.
Wow, Dr very smart, you seem to be obsessed with this subject. Since you posses such an obsession, lets have a lesson. We use a comma to separate the elements in a series (three or more things), including the last two. Here is an example: Dr very smart has decided to behave in a manner that is obnoxious, irrelevant to the topic of conversation, and silly. Now, be a good child, and go to bed before you get any crankier.
Seems like someone finally touched a raw nerve with the Phelps clan… it’s about time.
They don’t mind everyone in the USA hating their guts but they can’t take their brand of toxic bigotry reflected back at them through the medium of a horror film about fundie nutjobs with a psychotic streak. It’s called “seeing yourself as others see you”.
The only difference between the nutjobs in the film and the WBC is that the ones in the movie from all accounts are hands-on murderers. In every other major respect they’re cut from the same cloth.
And judging by reports of Fred Phelps’ violent and abusive outbursts by his estranged son Nate it’s not such a stretch of the imagination either.
Dr very smart, when one fixates on grammatical errors rather than the substance of the comment, one only proves they are anything but “very” smart.
Next time, try address the topic and steer clear of childish partionisations. There’s a good chap.
Great. Another OCD freak joins the ranks of PN. Welcome Dr. Very Smart. Ironic name.
Totally agree Flapjack, nice to know this film offends them so. Funny that “mocking god” seems to be their personal remit to address.
If you must use voice recognition software then switch off the U.S. options they don’t work. There’s no such thing as American.. It is English.
isn’t there something wrong with..”switch off the U.S. options they don’t work” ??
“If you must use voice recognition software then switch off the U.S. options they don’t work. There’s no such thing as American.. It is English.”
LOL! I’m from the UK. What a fool you are. How about you turn off the “bitch lock” on your keyboard and write a comment based on fact rather than queeny quips?
I think Dr Very Smart is a bot.
(ie A spam script), not a real person.
PN should delete their posts.
Spanner, he’s not a very clever bot. And his putting my name in “quotes” somehow makes him right, does it? There’s no shortage of uninspired comments on PN, and he’s just one more to add to the list of basket cases.
Kansas inbreeding is well known in producing mentally warped people.
Helen, he’s not worth the effort, just ignore him. Like any child he’ll find something else to amuse himself with soon enough. Another angry tosser with nothing worth while to add – Pink News is full of them, as you said.
They must actually be thanking their lucky stars, since they love the slightest excuse to gather somewhere to wave their banners and shout abuse.
Can’t wait to see the film!
How ironic, and hypocritical, that these people complain when someone elses ‘free speech’ offends them.
“Can’t wait to see the film!”
So long as it gets a distributor! There are rumours Kevin Smith has had difficulty obtaining a distributor for the film due to its controversial subject matter. And the fact that the title “Red State” seems to have cause a lot of confusion among reactionists who seem to think it about conservatives and Republicans (check out the IMDB forums, makes for scarily stupid reading!)
Otherwise, it looks to be a fantastic film – the trailer is intensely creepy – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exm22OReBmA
There was nothing wrong with my use of commas. It was perfectly acceptable informal conversational English. I forgot an apostrophe in ‘its’ ‘it’s’ or its possible I typed one but my keyboard skipped it. But who actually cares.
“God Hates Fags” is grammatically correct but morally disturbed.
Rose, ignore him, he’s now (poorly) impersonating names on another thread…. It would be funny only for the fact he obviously isn’t.
There’s only one thing worse then a bitch, and that’s an unfunny bitch…. which is just tragic and embarrassing.
I wonder if it ever occurred to the Phelps clan that by turning up and demonstrating they are giving the film publicity and encouraging more people to see it?
And does the Freedom of Expression part of the US constitution override the damage that he is clearly doing to his family by having very young children out on the streets waving hate placards?
Their sole purpose is to gather attention, so they will take advantage of any trumped up excuse. So they don’t really care if they draw more attention to the film because in doing so they draw more attention to themselves. It has been alleged, and I’m willing to believe it, that they do have another purpose as well and that is to provoke reaction and hopefully assalt so they can sue for damages and make financial gain. I think the best response to their bigoytry, thus far, was the Angels of Peace who arrived at a Phelps picket and with “a parade of sympathizers dressed in white angel costumes 7 feet high, with 8-foot wingspans,” the “Angels of Peace” quickly surrounded his group and smiled silently at the crowd, which enthusiastically cheered them on.” This action had the additional benefit of obscuring Phelps’ demonstration and signs from view, blocking their visibility with their immence outstreached wings and nullifing Phelps’ attempt at publicity and provoking outrage.
Perfectly understood, Will. Another indication that we really do need registered nicknames on Pink. It would discourage the trolls and stop impersonations.
Thanks for the link Andrew it looks like a good film.
In 1955, to great acclaim, Robert Mitchum played a murderer who was a psychopathic pastor in Night of The Hunter.
With “LOVE” and “HATE” tattooed on the fingers of his hands, he epitomized evil and won his most spectacular notices to date.
Not a lot of people know dat.
Is it me, or does the lead actor look just a bit like Scott Lively, of Ugandan and Ukranian fame? Only not so fat.
@ John F – there is, in fact, a case pending before the U. S. Supreme court regarding the Phelps clan and their funeral demonstration “right to free speech” (which they are also claiming as “freedom of religious exercise”) Arguments have been heard, and we’re all awaiting the decision.
That said, Dr. Quite Thick’s guide to comma usage is in error as to the use of a terminal serial comma: “Make sure that you don’t use a comma before the word and at the end of your list.”
Such commas should, in fact, be used, lest (as in the classic “division of my estate example”) the proceeds are given equally to “Tom, Dick and Harry” (Tom receives half, Dick and Harry the other half) vs. “Tom, Dick, and Harry” (equal thirds).
Leaving out the last comma has become common practice, thanks to the AP Stylebook and other editorial manuals that I loathe with a passion.
Reed, is that a picture of Roger Casement in your little avatar image?
Do these clowns feel equally strongly about people who eat shellfish?
If they do then i’m doubly stuffed. i LOVE shelfish
If it wasn’t for freedom of expression, the WBC people would have been rotting in jail long ago, so them protesting anyone else’s freedom of expression is a bit counter-realistic of them.
Anything that upsets the Westboro Baptist church is a damn good thing-these people are disgusting, unethical, dishonorable,
hate-spewing ignorant bigots. All they do is gravely injure families of fallen US soldiers who are already in mourning and at the funeral of their family member when these idiots show up and picket it with their horrid signs and hate-speech. They don’t care as long as they get media coverage. We call those sorts of people media-whores. They have no compassion or empathy and are quite selfish.
The nutcases of the WBC. Go to
http://hopeandpolitics.blogspot.com/2006/07/abuse-as-theology-fred-phelps-son.html for a summary of why they are so nuts.
Go to …
for a PDF of a book by a couple of their sons who left the nuthouse family the day they were 18.
Its all about endless inter and intra generational Physical, mental and yes sexual abuse all through the family that constitutes most of this church.
And when you are sick enough of what happened, ask yourself if the extremists catholics who oppose equality for gay people with a vengeance may well be the victim of the same abuse for which the church has been found guilty all over the world.
Could it be that the church knows that abuse like this messes up the mind and makes the person perfect fodder for spreading the cath church’s hatreds as wll.
Vicky – re scott lively, he has opened a coffee shop “holy grounds” in Massachusetts near a school. Obviously to try and poison the minds of kids.
And as they say – similar people attract (opposites dont per my psych book), Lively hired a known and convicted sex offender to run the shop. Guy could fill in for darth Vader
I guess we know know about that genocidal maniac. If only we could get him to publish a photo of the Prophent Mohammed, (PBUH), in some sort of compromisng position.
The enemy of my enemy is my freind.
Sorry I just couldn’t make it to the WBC protest at the Islamic center in DC.
But I did make it to the American University Protest. with my cross made out of two dildoes.
the kids freaked out, and prob a hundred of them were in pixs taken by their friends, with me holding that cross.
Religion is the curse of humanity. If there is a God and an afterlife, I’m sure I’ll be honored for protesting these nut cases.
We should thank WBC for helping to promote movie. This time they are really helpful. And they illustrate the film itself more then author could wish for. Without them it would be less press.
Not going to comment on the ridiculoys WBC morons, but this sign from the counter protest organised by Kevin Smith is wonderful:
…well they would be wouldnt they…
(it seems they love nothing more than being furious at something after all…)
Don’t knock the WBC. That group has done more good for LGBT people than anyone!
I think when people see that kind of bare-faced hatred it makes them evaluate their own prejudices.