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David Cameron tells gay men ‘get tested for HIV’

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  1. Jock S. Trap 25 Nov 2010, 12:32pm

    I think for a serving Prime Minister esp a Tory one this is a good, positive and clear message.

  2. Andy Godfrey 25 Nov 2010, 12:37pm

    David Cameron loves the tombstone ads? Of course he does!

    Loving the patronising lectures.

  3. David Cameron “There should also be compulsory sex education in schools”

    If true, worthy of a headline itself.

  4. Why are ALL gay men always painted as promiscuous tarts.

    Try that statement in some of the sluts you see in straight bars and see how far you get.

  5. Look at what I’ve found!

    (The Sunday Times, May 12, 2008)
    The primary cause of unhappiness in Britain is not lack of material wealth but a loss of faith in God and religion, a group of MPs says today. In a new report on wellbeing, a crossparty group of Christian MPs echoes concerns raised by the Conservative leader, David Cameron, who has emphasised repeatedly the importance of action to improve society’s sense of “wellbeing”.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3913720.ece

  6. Dave North – because SOME gay men ARE promiscuous tarts. You cannot deny “bareback parties” are appauling?

  7. I dislike the Tories with a venom. However, there is no harm in David Cameron saying what he has said.
    Just because of his political leaning don’t assume that he’s patronising or hateful.
    Also, in what way has he painted gay men as tarts?
    I can’t believe I’m sticking up for a Tory but good on him – he’s trying and say what you want about the rest of the old Tory slime he seems genuingly concerned with what he thinks it’s right.

  8. Louie Mince 25 Nov 2010, 2:59pm

    And if you voted for the Lib Dems you should get tested for “Stupidity”.

  9. Will he be telling Africans to get tested as well?
    He finds it such a problem that he has slashed funding. Hypocrite or what.
    Tell us something we dont know you patronising toff!

  10. Dave North 25 Nov 2010, 4:22pm

    “You cannot deny “bareback parties” are appauling?”

    Darren

    I would not know. Never been to one, and I’m pretty sure straight orgies exist too.

  11. I think the fact that Call-Me-Dave referred to the tombstone AIDS ads of the 80s means that personally he is in favour of another hard-hitting campaign . . . but he has to deal with all of those people who can only imagine worst-possible-scenarios – when, in fact, the worst-possible-scenario is just more people contracting the AIDS virus and needing to pump their bodies full of highly toxic chemicals for the rest of their lives.

  12. Craig! Thanks for that quote, re. Call-Me-Dave and his thoughts about our “well-being”.

    On this morning’s news it was announced that the Coalition is setting up a body to “research” what causes “well-being” in our society and to eventually make recommendations.

    But from that quote, Craig, it’s pretty bloody clear, isn’t it, that Call-Me-Dave already has his mind made up as to what causes “well-being”. Answer: belief in Jesus. Christianity.

    “Call-Me-Dave” is Margaret Thatcher’s child. He is no different. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

    In his crafty little way he’s bringing back exactly what “Mummy” tried to introduce.

    Yes, Mandelson was right to call him “A Mummy’s Boy!”

    (The Sunday Times, May 12, 2008)
    The primary cause of unhappiness in Britain is not lack of material wealth but a loss of faith in God and religion, a group of MPs says today. In a new report on wellbeing, a crossparty group of Christian MPs echoes concerns raised by the Conservative leader, David Cameron, who has emphasised repeatedly the importance of action to improve society’s sense of “wellbeing”.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3913720.ece

  13. Sister Mary Clarance 25 Nov 2010, 10:19pm

    “when, in fact, the worst-possible-scenario is just more people contracting the AIDS virus and needing to pump their bodies full of highly toxic chemicals for the rest of their live”

    It might suit THT/GMFA and the NHS to downplay the effects and consequences of HIV and its ultimate outcome, but until they find a cure it is still an early, unpleasant and unglamorous death.

    Combination therapy is not a wonder cure, it involves a lifetime to ingesting small quantities of ‘toxic’ chemicals, that we are only now beginning to understand the consequences of, and which it is increasingly known are not good, beginning a battle between balancing a death from HIV against a battle against the critical consequences of taking small amounts of poisons daily or even twice daily.

    Mortality rates are disguised to protect loved ones – death my heart attack, stroke or any one of a number of other conditions brought on by life saving medication.

    Those infected walk a tight rope when first infected with the NHS holding off treatment until CD4 counts are ridiculously low or a life threatening condition presents itself, only then to be fed a lifetime of drugs that themselves have a high likelihood of causing death.

    The tombstones served a purpose in striking fear into a generation about the consequences of infection. That fear no longer exists because of the sugar coating someone somewhere though it was a good idea to use on HIV.

    I very much regret that AIDS still equals DEATH.

  14. I very much regret that AIDS still equals DEATH.
    Sister Mary Clarance

    As a fairly recently diagnosed heterosexual man, I find that fact really disquieting. THT must be giving me incorrect information

  15. I’ve never been to a bareback party. Am I missing something?

  16. Well that’s half the Tory party needing blood tests then.

    This Fascist is instilling the myth that gay people spread HIV more than straight people; it’s just not true.

    Is there any minority he hasn’t had a go at since he’s been in power? Are gay people soon to be getting a G to sew on their clothes, to be worn at all times?

  17. Maximilian 26 Nov 2010, 5:47pm

    The fact THT are always there supposedly “representing” all positive people makes me angry because they do not. Their unhealthy monopoly is very damaging to the HIV community and they do not speak for everyone in it. My experience of THT is that when you call their helpline with a serious issue they lack the skill or knowledge to deal with it and simply don’t call back. As with all charities, their first loyalty is towards funding jobs and admin costs and doing whatever it takes to do do – even if that means cosying up to the Government of the day or the Catholic Church. As for David Cameron, at least we have a PM who talks about HIV with some conviction.

  18. Jack Whitley 28 Nov 2010, 8:09pm

    Maximillan writes: As with all charities, their first loyalty is towards funding jobs and admin costs and doing whatever it takes to do do.

    I disagree, THT’s first priority has always been to pharmaceuticals like Glaxo. I distinctly remember the furore pre-HAART when THT was caught out accepting sweeteners from Glaxo for recommending the killer banned chemo drug AZT to gay Londoners, which gave rise to a group of gay activists called Gays Against Genocide, who THT hit with a law suit to shut them up.

    Times haven’t changed. The charity still receives annual donations from Glaxo, and of course it is the strongest advocate of persuading gay men to get tested and onto medications as soon as possible. I would not have an argument with that as such, it is a sound cause. But the fact that a lot of gay men today are testing positive is down to this same organisation’s constant refusal to produce effective HIV prevention campaigning. Call me a conspiracy nut, but it is almost as if they have set up the doomsday scenario we are confronted with today deliberately in order to appease Glaxo’s shareholders, who have got extremely rich on the back of our community’s suffering and THT’s failures and indifference in stemming the spread of HIV.

    And let’s not forget, THT has also been flogging PEP like there’s no tomorrow; again targetting the effects of HIV infection without effectively addressing the causes. And lo and behold, no prizes for guessing which drugs company manufactures PEP.

    THT has betrayed our community in pursuit of getting rich and bloated. It is time the rug was pulled from under its feet and its chief executive Nicholas Partridge was held to account for the abuse and squandering of millions of pounds over the years; donated by the likes of you and me but with very little to show.

    Good luck to the new HIV prevention charity, Status. You sure have your work cut out to undo the untold damage and carnage THT has created through its obtuseness, indifference and ties to unethical drugs companies.

  19. Jack Whitley 28 Nov 2010, 8:19pm

    Andy writes: As a fairly recently diagnosed heterosexual man, I find that fact really disquieting. THT must be giving me incorrect information.

    Yes, my ffiend, because it has been in THT’s interest to spread alarming disinformation about HIV – firstly to protect the feelings of those with the virus who don’t (according to THT) like to be reminded that they have a life-threatening and debilitating disease coarsing through their veins, as well as to lull us into a false sense of security that has led many gay men to dispense with protection and contract HIV in the naive belief that popping a few pills a day is a small price to pay for a “normal” and “healthy” lifespan.

    What they have never told you, Andy, is that these meds are, in fact, highly toxic and hazzardous, and studies are revealing that long-term use will riddle the body with a host of other life-threatening conditions as likely to see you to a premature grave as full-blown AIDS itself. It is simply a myth and a dangerous lie that THT and other HIV hierarchies have been peddling in order to perpetuate the disease within our community, because of course their careers, pensions and associated perks depend on it.

    At best it is a scam, but simply put it is an outrage and they need to be taken to task this World AIDS Day for crimes amounting to community genocide.

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