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Vince Vaughn glad that gay joke will stay in film

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  1. The average Hollywood movie scarcely warrants any intelligent person’s attention nowadays anyway. Pity their influence is so mischievous.

  2. Jerry Halliday 5 Nov 2010, 2:48am

    Shame on Ron Howard. Shame, shame.

  3. Listen very carefully. I’ll only say this once.

    Straight people don’t get to decide what’s offensive to gay people.

    White people don’t get to decide what’s offensive to Black people.

    Christians don’t get to decide what’s offensive to Muslims.

    Men don’t get to decide what’s offensive to women.

    Get it? If you don’t understand this then just don’t say anything at all about what YOU think the thoughts, feelings and sensitivities are of groups to which you don’t belong. It just makes you look ignorant and asinine.

    That is all. Thanks for listening.

  4. I don’t even think the joke is funny – not one bit funny. “Electric cars are gay”? WTF.

    It is an obvious slam against Gays for the knuckle-draggers who will actually pay to see this moronic film. They know who the audience will be and it won’t be Gays. They know that the beer-swilling breeders who want movies like this will laugh their asses off at any slam against Gays.

    I echo the previous comment – Shame on you Ron Howard, shame, shame shame. I’m sure his parents are proud of him.

  5. I love many hollywood movies but a hetero person can’t tell me not to be offended when something is referred to as gay to mean bad

  6. Just as posters above assert that no one can tell them not to be offended by something, equally no one can convince me, as a gay man, that I should join in the hysterical cry-baby antics of the professional victims who have nothing better to do than make a big deal out of being offended by something as trivial as this.

    Personally, I think Ron Howard’s films have all been bland rubbish. To give them an impotence ib this way is to buy into Hollywood’s idea of itself.

  7. How thick is he that he doesn’t get the point complainants are making? “We clarified within the joke….” No, that doesn’t work. That’s the whole point. It’s the use of the word ‘gay’ to mean crap that people object to. If he’s finding that hard to understand then maybe he should try inserting the N word in his “clarifying” sentence.

  8. @ Joe (#6): “To give them an impotence”? Wishful thinking …!

  9. Wow its amazing how much this guy dosnt get the issue with the joke. Its about the usage of the word IN THAT CONTEXT is the issue with “gay” phrase in the first place its used for something else in biggoted morons like his eyes, but to the gay kids ears it just means another put down. Is your joke worth that ? America is rolling with the I”t gets better” campagin, can he not see its bad enough as it is without normalising this attitude more?

  10. Joe, claiming that people with legitimate grievances who are unafraid and unashamed to speak up are “hysterical cry babies” is disgusting and is the very same tactic that bullying assholes the world over use to keep oppressed people, who often really are “victims” silent.

    Can you not make your point without trying to shame and denigrate people who might have a different perspective than you. You have no idea why someone might react strongly to a phrase that you consider harmless and inconsequential. That may require too much thought and consideration on your part so instead you resort to just calling them cry babies.

    Real classy.

  11. Oh, and throwing in “hysterical” was a nice negative gay stereotype and misogynistic touch.

    Congratulations on accomplishing the trifecta of ignorance.

  12. Joe, in a society where there are increasingly violent and numerous attacks against gay people ANY language which treats ‘gay’-ness as less than good is dangerous. One doesn’t need to be hysterical, a cry-baby, or anything else to know that mis-used language may have a deleterious effect on society at large. Hayden in particular makes a number of good points but all the contributors so far are worth listening to and understanding. Surely it is unacceptable needlessly to offend even one person for an attribute which they do not choose to have, be it sex, colour, sexuality, disability or whatever else?

  13. Not trying to take any sides but, funny, they didn’t say anything when Brittany said that dolphins are just gay sharks on Glee.

  14. 12: “Joe, in a society where there are increasingly violent and numerous attacks against gay people ANY language which treats ‘gay’-ness as less than good is dangerous.”

    This is a ridiculous statement – “gayness” (whatever that is) is neither good nor bad. Bullying is to be tackled by a less scattershot approach than just a blanket statement like yours.

    10: “people with legitimate grievances who are unafraid and unashamed to speak up are “hysterical cry babies”

    What legitimate greivances? They are simply censors. Like those bozos who complained about Basic Instinct and Cruising years ago. Such PC robots do not speak for the majority of gay people, they are simply enacting their own victimhood and creating publicity for themselves. The line in the film is spoken by a fictional character, and as such is a means by which we judge the character. We should NEVER be censoring creativity, even corporate creativity in Hollywood, as if we do, the crusade will come back and bite us bad.

    11: “Oh, and throwing in “hysterical” was a nice negative gay stereotype and misogynistic touch.

    Congratulations on accomplishing the trifecta of ignorance.”

    How is it misogynist? It’s you that seems to associate hysteria with women, so pot/kettle/black I’d say, if you weren’t such a student union cliché, Hayden. As for me being ignorant, no doubt everyone who doesn’t share your world view is dismissed as such, which is why someone like you, as humourless as a horse who lost all three races (including the human), is a lot more dangerous than someone who lamely uses the word “gay” in the mouth of a fictional character.

    Sometimes you guys and gals make me embarrassed to be gay and politicised, your tantrums are so puny and self-defeating.

  15. PumpkinPie 8 Nov 2010, 7:12pm

    Just as posters above assert that no one can tell them not to be offended by something, equally no one can convince me, as a gay man, that I should join in the hysterical cry-baby antics of the professional victims who have nothing better to do than make a big deal out of being offended by something as trivial as this.

    Nobody’s trying to convince you of anything. Stop being such a toy-throwing cry-baby and get over your victim complex. If we’re offended by it, and we have legitimate reasons to be, then don’t tell us what we should be thinking.

    Sometimes you guys and gals make me embarrassed to be gay and politicised, your tantrums are so puny and self-defeating.

    Cry more, cry-baby.

  16. Oh, Pumpkin-pie, how old are you, 15? I am certainly not crying, nor do I identify as a victim, neither of loud-mouth pseudo-activists nor of Vince Vaughan.

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