I thinks the damage may have already been done!
Well done for admitting your mistake and sorting it out, ebay.
At least they have changed it now (at that was only due to the bad press), but the damage has been done. I really don’t care what they say it was intentional, if it wasn’t then why stipulate in the t&c that only 1 Male and 1 Female can apply.
Oh well, I’ve since closed my eBay account and emailed to complain…as usual nothing.
So can I put eBay back on my ‘Bookmark’ list now??!
How easy it is to just apologise after the offence? This is the new method homophobes have been using to express their emotions.
You kind of lose the right to call something “unintentional” when it is brought to your attention and you release a curtly worded statement DEFENDING your position and stating that you did “nothing wrong”. If they had apologized and rectified the situation as their first response, THEN they could have reasonably claimed that the mistake was unintentional.
Very true, Hayden. It was the fact that their explanation was so implausible too that really got to me.
I am really sadenned by some of the comments so far. It appears spiteful to suggest that companies and people cannot have a change of heart and learn!
It took me years to fight my own internalised homophobia that came about from growing up gay in an anti-gay household. Here, in a matter of days, a company is admitting it first didn’t think of including everyone, it defended its position initially and has now been able to reflect and make ammends.
Isn’t part of living in the human social world about realising that people take time to learn?
Some of these comments seem to have as their basis “This is what I want and I want it now, and if I don’t get it then tough!” In short, they sounds spoiled.
Well done ebay.
I’m sorry, but whoever is responsible for this competition was clearly discriminating against same-sex couples – the excuse that they wanted to “attract entrants who would buy the broadest selection of goods on eBay from women’s shoes to electronic gadgets” is simply bizarre. Do gay people not buy things now?!
I wonder if they will publish the names of the winner!
Bebert: “How easy it is to just apologise after the offence? This is the new method homophobes have been using to express their emotions.”
STONE. SIN. CAST.
Like you are mister fcuking perfect.
I agree with Richard. I won’t laud eBay for their turnaround, because it was clearly because of negative publicity and not because of a realisation they had done wrong. However, we need to give people and organisations the chance to learn their lessons.
eBay will be on my ‘watch carefully’ list now. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being and will hope they’ve learned not to act this way. I have no delusions they will suddenly become a more ethical and gay friendly company at heart but they may at least have learned that they have to act as if they are.
yet again there is somebody having a dig at another member in these comments. Aren’t there enough enemies out there without making them inside the LGBT community?
I don’t think it makes much sense to boycott eBay unless you live in France, since this sounds like it was entirely the doing of ebay.fr. The eBay mothership back in the States is pretty gay friendly.
Bu what is wrong with wanting a couple that will buy both male and female items, which a single sex couple cannot do? It is a fact of life, and E-Bay only wants to sell the the greater diversity, as a marketers of goods for both men and women (That’s clearly where the mother/son couple came from). I do not think it was discriminatory, it was only focused on a wider market.
@ Nikki If you’re right they could have provided two separate prizes for single people (one for a man and one for a woman.) The discrimination is a result of asking for a male/female couple.
i know lots of gay men who buy womens shoes….and most of them (including me) have more products than any woman. Whether id be cheap enough to buy them off ebay where any skank could have fiddled with them is another matter entirely
Rose: “yet again there is somebody having a dig at another member in these comments. Aren’t there enough enemies out there without making them inside the LGBT community?”
What community? If someone makes an arse of themselves, I really don’t care if they are a gay arse, or any other kind. They are open season as far as I’m concerned, and deserve to be derided.
> “yet again there is somebody having a dig at another member in these comments. Aren’t there enough enemies out there without making them inside the LGBT community?”
I am in sympathy with the sentiments but the principles are dangerous. The “enemy within” has been used and is used by all groups to suppress individuality and free thought.
If two gay persons disagree, freedom of thought and freedom of expression ought to permit them to do so openly and to criticise each other’s position. If the only way to prevent “enemies” is to ensure that everyone agree or not disagree openly, then someone must have the power of deciding what is the appropriate view from which others should not openly diverge.
The person who chooses the view sets the line for acceptable discussion and has the power to exclude those who disagree with it as enemies or, even worse, traitors.
I’d bet my last dollar that some of you whining about us questioning ebay’s motives and claiming that we should just say “no harm, no foul, weren’t among those who did something to put pressure on ebay to reluctantly change their policy.
You are very typical. You complain about the way activist pressure people but you do nothing yourselves. You complain about the way those who did something react once their actions effect the desired change, again having done NOTHING yourselves.
We have not gained our rights and our respect by the actions of you “weak as water” wimps. We’ve gained these advances because of those among us, and those who preceded us, who BITCHED and MOANED and MARCHED and DEMANDED and stayed on people’s asses when they try to claim that their changed mind, brought about by public pressure, was a “change of heart”.
If it was left up to you, ebay would not have changed their position and you would have been perfectly content with that as long as no uppidy gays were mean to them.
I agree with Hayden. I would have accepted their apology and given them a pass had they not added insult to injury by releasing a statement that was insulting in its dishonesty. They should have apologized. Acknowledged their thoughtlessness and promised to do better moving forward. Instead, they spent three or four days defending their action and claiming that they did nothing wrong. Then, only after all hell broke loose, they claim that it was an “unintentional” mistake. It is fair and reasonable for people to call them out on this.
Parker: I didn’t complain because I thought it was too trivial and pathetic to even consider. Those people that preceded us were complaining about being hounded, arrested and imprisoned for their sexuality, not because some French website made an oversight in a description for some pissy little competition.
Get some fcuking perspective, man!