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Labour leadership candidates admit party’s gay rights failures

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  1. OMAR KUDDUS GayasylumUK 9 Sep 2010, 7:50pm

    Would it not just be simpler to make everyone EQUAL, in the eyes of the Law, based on the fact that we are all born Equal by the mere fact that we are born Human and have the same rights, feelings and emotions as our counterpart Heterosexual fellow Human beings, especially in the “free west”.
    Discrimination has just too many forms and faces, and its time to realise just that, we are and all ways have been treated as second class citizens, by most of our governments, again in the “free west” , where homosexuality is legal.

    You however cannot have “equality” without liberty. When people are free to govern themselves and own their own personal sovereignty that person is therefore equal in the sense of humanity.

    However in reality we are not all “born equal” as many of us come from different nationalities, backgrounds, class, race, religion, upbringing etc. Many of us are born in countries where individual rights are infringes or where such rights are not recognises.

    But as stated we cannot expect for the government to “give” us equal rights. Because whatever the government can grant or give it can also take away. Rights are inalienable.

    Equality is thus maybe unachievable ,no matter how noble, however, liberty is for everybody, especially in the “free west” or countries where Homosexuality is legal an recognised.

    howeber obe gas to consider just jow hard the new labour party is trying to the LGBT comminity that it resprcys and fprmilates and acccepts LGBT’s views as paty of the “community” and that our vots “count”

  2. I am down to two candidates now… Abbott and ed milliband …. Hmm I’m not sure labours ready for a female leader who is very strong and outspoken … Such a shame damn Thatcher and the harm she did.
    Ed tho I’m warming to, I still see him as to timid to be a leader but of all those likely to win I hope it’s him as he does seem genuine… Not summat I thought I’d say about politicians …

    I am happy they are saying they will change it, not I’ll look into it.. They know that saying they will now they must this is gonna be new labours last chance I feel.

  3. OMAR KUDDUS GayasylumUK 9 Sep 2010, 8:39pm

    conserns?
    email contact@edmiliband.org

  4. “- That’s why I support calls to change the definition of marriage to include exclusive relationships between couples, regardless of sex. This will mean gay couples will be able to describe themselves as married ” – why doesn’t D Milliband just say he supports marriage equality – what a verbose way of saying it….

  5. Diane Abbott and Ed Miliband seem the best candidates in terms of LGBT equality.

    Andy Burnham seems the worst.

    Ed Balls and David Miliband are middling. I’d trust Ed Balls more simply because David Miliband only seems to have decided to support equality after the negative reaction to his pathetic, patronising initial response (it was only some months ago that the smug little charlatan was fully in favour of civil partnership apartheid).

    NOTE TO ALL CANDIDATES: Mentioning Stonewall in a positive lights raises an immediate red flag for all LGBT people who support full equality (98% of us).

    Stonewall do NOT support full equality for LGBT people, therefore they are not an organisation whom we trust or want representing us!

  6. M. T. Bags 10 Sep 2010, 8:20am

    Funny, it must be so much easier to say these kind of things while in opposition!

  7. Ed miliband all the way, he has my support

  8. theotherone 10 Sep 2010, 10:21am

    Ed has your support? Are you fvcking joking? Do you not remember Amendment 70? Do any of the fvcking candidates remember Amendment 70?

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Repeal-the-Homophobic-Amendment-70/123025264392882?v=wall&ref=pdem

  9. If it was my choice, Diane Abbott would be the new leader.

  10. davevauxhall 10 Sep 2010, 11:18am

    As far as I remember Ed balls was happy to give and support widespread exemptions for church schools in terms of teaching on matters relating to sexuality and homosexuality or that they could do or say whatever they please relating to their ethos no matter how homophobic. Thanks ed

  11. theotherone 10 Sep 2010, 1:12pm

    Not exemptions Dave, a change to the law that made Clause 28 look like Equality had just stepped off the Mothership in the form of the Education and Schools Minister.

  12. Amendment 70 is vile.

    When are the Tories repealing it?

    Because they are repealing it aren’t they? Now that they claim to be gay-friendly?

  13. I am not at all surprised that all the leadership contenders support gay marriage. In my opinion, the Civil Partnership Bill (which actually started off life as a marriage equality bill) with all it’s capitulating to religious communities, is covered with Blair’s fingerprints.

    Funny that the first thing he did was become a Catholic after he left office!

  14. PumpkinPie 10 Sep 2010, 6:42pm

    Cleggy needs to ask his buddy Dave when he’s going to get around to repealing the Waddington Amendment, which legalises bullying and the advocacy of conversion therapy under the guise of “freedom of speech”.

    Labour fought against that. So why the hell didn’t the Tories fight against the aforementioned Amendment 70? Because they agreed with it. You can trust Labour to fight for us half the time, and the Tories to fight for us none of the time. I’d prefer the lesser of two evils.

  15. theotherone 10 Sep 2010, 10:08pm

    I’d prefer neither.

    Let’s all scream support for people who stabbed us in the back shall we?

    To quote Derek Jarman: ‘We have always been mistreated, so if anyone gives us the slightest sympathy we overreact with our thanks.’

  16. theotherone 10 Sep 2010, 10:12pm

    Oh and the wadington amendment?

    Not again! Homophobic Hate speech is already covered in Public Order offences so why do we need a loosely worded Law on the issue? It was a pointless law and pointless laws are wrong and dangerous.

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