Gay vicar won’t promise to remain celibate after civil partnership

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  1. It’s a pity that he can’t just get married to his partner in his church of choice. Though 40 years age difference seems like a lot.

    If they wanted a blessing of their actual union, there are plenty of liberal Christian churches that would do it (Unitarians, Metropolitan Community Church, Quakers).

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  2. Good luck to this spring-autumn couple. We need more people with progressive attitudes towards gay couples like this within the ranks of the church.

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  3. Absolutely, Dromio – and how brave of the couple (irrespective of the age gap) to face up to an honest approach to how they will live their lives once they are living in a committed realationship.
    Not that it is anybody else’s business!
    Just how many men of the cloth are forced to live a lie because of this quite ridiculous legislation laid doen by bigotted, so-called Christians with homophobic attitudes and (in many instances) closetted homosexual inclinations

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  4. mmmm me thinks this one is a bit suss..
    the fact that his fiance is from another country and needs permission to marry…call me cynical, but i think a smell a rat here..
    It wont be the first time and def not the last where we see people from other countries trying to gain living in this country by means such as these and hope the UKBA will have a long hard look before they decide if this person can marry or not.
    Too many people trying this stint now and it should be stamped out.

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  5. Rev tell the Church of England whatever they want to hear and do whatever makes you happy.

    its Ok for hetties to have a blow job of the flower arranger but heaven help a gay Rev

    kevin

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  6. Good for Colin. Hopefully the C of E will join us in the 21 century.
    Jesus said nothing about same-sex behaviour.
    The Jewish prophets were silent about homosexuality.
    Sodom and Gomorrah are described as overfed, unconcerned non justice minded people who tried to potentially and literally rape their guests, in direct opposition to the laws of hospitality and the laws of the Old Testament. There is nothing in the passage pertinent to a judgement about the morality of consensual homosexual intercourse..

    In Leviticus – If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”. In the Twenty first century does that still apply?

    In Romans the criticism of penetrative sex between men does not apply to straight, bisexual and gay men today because it applied only to the Greek-Roman culture of Paul’s time. Although Paul criticises penetrative sex between men, he does not actually say don’t do it..

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  7. Now could you argue sex between civil partners is still sex before marriage? ;)

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  8. even the mail had a pic of the couple

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  9. Jess Conrad  21 Aug 2010, 1:23pm  Report
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    HOW THE HELL DOSE ANYONE STAY CELIBATE IN A LOVING RELATIONSHIP?
    IF THE C.Of E. WERE DUCKS I’D SAY THEY WERE QUACKERS!!

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  10. Well this shows that ‘there is no fool like an old fool’ – it seems obvious to me that the ‘model’ is using him to get residence here. The morality, or otherwise, of the union is secondary to the fast that a Nigerian ‘model’ appears to be hoodwinking a vicar.

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  11. Jess Conrad  21 Aug 2010, 5:14pm  Report
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    SO DAVID…IS THAT WHAT LOVE IS…HOODWINKING??

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  12. you filthy cynic.

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  13. There is a fascinating insight to the church’s attitude to gay marriage I have been following Use the link and you will get a taste of the attitudes towards gay people clergy and marriage… it’s often quite alarming and terrible http://catholicexchange.com/2010/08/16/133372/

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  14. Jess Conrad  22 Aug 2010, 4:18pm  Report
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    Not So Much Of The CYNIC DENE DEAR!

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  15. spånner  22 Aug 2010, 5:48pm  Report
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    Jess Conrad: “HOW THE H*LL DOES ANYONE STAY CELIBATE IN A LOVING RELATIONSHIP?”

    Why don’t you ask your parents?

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  16. “it seems obvious to me that the ‘model’ is using him to get residence here.” Really dear? He has been ´using him´ for the past three years then! He is also running his own business, so hardly a benefit claimant! I say fair play to them.. Good luck to them both. And as far as the ´UKBA´ taking a ´long hard look´ at this, they had better not look any harder than they would if it was a British man wanting to marry a woman from abroad! You have a right to do so… So no ´special treatment´ for this couple please…. Would hardly be fair or equal now would it?

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  17. nothing say I AM AN IDIOT like caps

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  18. Jess Conrad  24 Aug 2010, 9:52am  Report
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    Spanner,
    I’d Have To Wait A helluva Long Time To Ask My Parents Anything Since They Have Been Dead Since 1962! You Are A Nincompoop Sir!

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  19. Spānner  25 Aug 2010, 4:39pm  Report
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    Jess Conrad: And you need to get out more. Many couples live together for companionship, and sex is really not important.

    Many older couples (gay and straight) just enjoy being around one another.

    I have to say though, like Andy (#4) – I smell something very iffy here too. An elderly gay preacher marrying a Nigerian lad 40 years younger. I’ll give it 3 years, or as soon as his permanent leave to remain drops through the letterbox, whichever the sooner.

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