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Malaysian trans woman wins asylum in UK

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  1. “Fatine Young, 36, who was born male, feared she would be arrested and jailed if returned to her home country, which would consider her relationship to be homosexual.” Shame on the Malaysian government!!

    She met 30-year-old Ian Young in 2006 while he was working in Kuala Lumpur and entered Britain on a six-month tourist visa to live with him in December 2008.

    “After nearly a year struggling I am so relieved that the Home Office has approved my asylum claim, knowing that I am safe from the prosecution back home. My plight, known through the media in the UK, has touched a nerve amongst the Muslim community in Malaysia.” This wait was unacceptably long!!

    “Honestly, I’m not angry at the UK government for [repeatedly] rejecting my application” I am!!

    “Mrs Young has also claimed she was treated badly and humiliated” by staff at the visa processing centre because her appearance does not match the gender stated in her passport.” Shame on the passport office!!!

    “Mr and Mrs Young say that while their family and friends have accepted their relationship, he had to leave his job as a school caretaker because parents claimed to be uncomfortable about their relationship.” SHAME ON YOU PARENTS!!!!!

  2. I don’t really know the laws on immigration but doesn’t marrying a British citizen qualify you for a spouse visa or something like that? We keep being told that CPs are supposedly the same as marriage so why does this woman have to apply for asylum instead of just being allowed to live with her husband/partner? I had read about their case in the past and had wondered about the same thing.
    In any case, congrats to the couple, I’m happy to hear they are now in a much more solid situation and allowed to be together.

  3. Spanner, shut up you spanner. She’s married to a British Citizen. That qualifies her to live here. It’s really that simple.

  4. “Spanner”?

    Sounds like a bit of a tool..


  5. PumpkinPie 28 Jul 2010, 3:51pm

    I remember this story! I’m so glad it worked out for her in the end. :)

  6. Naith, just ignore Spanner, everytime an immigrant is mentioned in a story he starts frothing at the mouth as if he’s got rabies.

    Good luck to the couple. You can’t beat a happy ending to a love story.

  7. Congratulations to the both of them, but there are so many important lose ends in the reporting of this which it is very disappointing the writers have never bothered to clear up.

    In the context of clear prejudiced handling of her application, what exactly was wrong with her photograph that caused her application to be rejected? Was she perhaps smiling when the rules say the face must be straight?

    Why was theirs a civil partnership when she should, seemingly, have been eligible for UK “gender recognition” (clearly having lived as a woman for two years and intending to continue to do so, and being willing to be on pubic record) and thus a heterosexual marriage, which might have gone down better in Malaysia?

    Why did she not acquire the right to remain when she became the civil partner of a UK citizen? Was it because of prejudiced official insistence that she had to return first to Malaysia and apply there for a new visa?

    What complaint has been made about the prejudiced handling of her visa application, and what changes have been made?

    Has this been resolved as a consequence of the recent court decision on asylum claims, indicating that the Home Office is accepting that trans asylum claimants are covered by it too, not only gay claimants.

    Why is she still frightened and confused when she now has the right to remain in the UK?

  8. paul canning 29 Jul 2010, 6:39am


    If you follow the links from my report much can be answered.

    The visa photo was rejected because of the wrong background colour.
    I don’t know why they’re in a civil partnership rather than marriage but you may be rightm although I’d guess this might have been their easier option rather than having to assemble evidence from overseas to meet any ‘lived as a woman for two years’ requirement. They did have to get permission under an incredibly ridiculous rule, now being abolished (see
    The right to remain issue goes for all relationships, gay or straight. Getting married doesn’t automatically mean a partner can come here.
    A complaint of the handling of the original visa application, not by the government but by someone employed by them, is up to Fatine.
    The Supreme Court decision would have affected the claim – it was accepted and didn’t require an appeal – and yes although not specifically about trans people the principal is the same.

  9. I’m assuming that spanner typed some pretty nasty sruff for it to be removed PN admin have a responsibility to ban his IP address

  10. For the person who was asking about being married/civil partnered to a British citizen. Being married or civil partnered no longer automatically grants you leave to remain in the UK or makes you a citizen. Whether gay or straight, you have to go through the same process as non-married immigrants including taking the “life in the UK” test. I know this because my girlfriend and I’s civil partnership will make no difference in her getting British Citizenship – you have to fulfill a lot of other criteria first!

  11. Congratulations and good luck to them.

  12. She looks fabulous!

  13. she is a repulsive scammer and a shame to malasia she huts people and distroys lives
    she should see she sould be shamed ant set home to face all the people she insulted
    ian young her distroyed husband

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