Does Tatchell, (or anyone else for that matter), seriously think that petitions have any effect whatsoever? All that crap on No10.gov is just more Labour spin and bullsh!t, and the LibCons will treat it exactly the same. Since when did politicians ever listen to the public?
As for this particular chestnut, we all know that politicians are terrified of any religious organisation, so they will be running around like headless chickens, kissing holy butt.
I can’t wait for the protests.
If the government refuses to listen to reason and exlcude that evil, genocidal maniac, then it’s up to each and every one of us to show the pope that he is not welcome here.
The pope is a hatemongering scumbag.
Gosh – are there any differences between lab and tories anymore on LGBT issues – Milliband response to the question on the pope’s visit was eqally feeble:
Mr Miliband said: “He’s the leader of the Catholic Church in the UK and in the world. It’s very important he is welcomed in this country and that we make clear that our country has no room for prejudice.
“As foreign secretary, I often had to set out the country’s moral and legal position to all sorts of people. It is a good thing for the country that the Pope is coming here. I say this as a person with no religious affiliation.”
Heaven’s above what drival!
The Pope hardly represents anything democratic. He has nothing in common with the 21st Century views the UK has therefore should be treaded like any other religious extremist. Ban the man!
> In a response to the petition, Downing Street said the Pope
> had a “global reach” and was a “valuable” government partner in
> tackling foreign and development issues.
> It said: “As with any bilateral diplomatic relationship, there
> are issues on which we disagree. The Holy See is clear on our
> positions on these issues.
> “However, we believe that Pope Benedict’s visit will provide an
> opportunity to strengthen and build on our relationship with the
> Holy See in areas where we share interests and goals, and to
> discuss those issues on which our positions differ.”
The man’s “global reach” is exactly the problem, because it is largely for the promotion of evil. But, yes, no doubt the UK government delights in sharing the goal of opposing equal rights for LGB&T people, as they did in intervening in the recent Austrian case in the European Court of Human Rights.
Just what luck, I wonder, does the Uk government have in discussing its different position on family planning and sexual health, and especially the use of condoms, where the BBC pinpointed the Vatican as having caused the death of millions, making it the most genocidal power in the history of mankind? Doesn’t seem to have made any progress yet.
Shame Mr Tatchell, as ever (despite being a “LGBT campaigner”), omitted criticising the fact that the Vatican reserves its worst condemnations, these days, for transsexual people (who he says are sick, incapable of marriage, and a greater threat to humankind than the destruction of the rain-forests, if Vatican spin-doctors are to be believed). Will it be OK if the old man slags them off in his UK sermons then?
This is what the President of Argentina had to say about the Vatican’s view of same-sex marriage:
The Coalition Government would do well to invite President de Kirchner and tell His Holiness The Pope to fu<k off.
This man should not be given any official endorsement by any government anywhere in the world. His complicity in the ongoing child abuse scandals along with his views on homosexuality, women, married priests, and so on, clearly brand him as a dangerous man in extreme retrograde motion. To see a funny satirical video on the catholic church, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k.
How on earth can a four day visit cost so much money?? £12,000000 excluding security. If the pope wants to visit let him visit but it should cost nowhere near that, seriousley this government has cut cut cut and froze every penny we get, increased VAT to 20% and then is happy to fork out tens of millions of pounds for a state visit that will bring nothing to the country at all. I personally think it is a disgrace it is disgustng the people who pay the taxes should have a say on it. I am a roman catholic I am also a gay man and I will be joining protests against the visit for two reasons the Pope & the churches view on homosexuality and also the cost to the country.
The Pope is sweet Christ on earth (cf. St. Catherine of Siena) and the faithful Catholics of Britain offer a warm welcome to the Holy Father. He will bring the light of Christ to our shores, with the message of hope and healing, and salvation for aching mankind. Harden not your hearts.
Love your sense of irony. :-)
The government, and lots of other people, seem to have forgotten that this is NOT a state visit.The Vatican is not recognised by the UN as a state, but it is by the Italians. That is why the Bishop of Rome will not be treated as a head of state (at least, I hope not) when he visits us. It is outrageous that I should be forced to contribute to the cost of his visit. Add this to Iraq and Afghanistan and I don’t wonder people try not to pay tax. Everything good is being cut. Everything vile is being paid for by you and me.
vile homophobe.. if spouters of the same kinds of hate are banned from visiting (at 100% their own expense) what makes this filthy old bigot welcome at our expense?
Don’t get mad. Get even:
Can you believe that although this crook made some changes to the way child abuse was handled, the reporting of such acts were Not included.
Now I ask All in Parliament, If this was an ‘ordinary’ person, male, supporter of child abuse, Believer of child abuse to continue to go unreported, supporter of extreme views against women and the LGBT community, In effect a serious mental patient case… Would he still be allowed in the UK?
Let me see. Hamza Gulzar Khan, creator of the Taliban in Afganistan, ran a regime that denied women equal rights and the UK government sanctions the spending of millions removing him, and his group, from Power.
Josef Ratsinger, current leader of the Roman Catholics, an organisation that denies women equal rights, and the UK government is spending millions welcoming him to this country.
Just what are they spending £4,000,000.00 a day on anyway?
The Coalition Government would do well to invite President de Kirchner and tell His Holiness The Pope to fu<k off.
Wowzers! Now that’s what I call a leader! :D
Why can’t Britain ever have one of those? D:
The response to the petition was completely dismissive, it did not address any of the issues brought up and appeared to be a cynical pre-prepared response, I think we deserve better.
The Government is not listening to our concerns.
Here is the pathetic Government response in full:
Pope Benedict XVI will visit the UK from 16 to 19 September at the invitation of Her Majesty The Queen. The visit is described as a Papal Visit with the status of a State Visit. The programme will include a number of pastoral events, which are the responsibility of the Catholic Church, as well as some significant official events, which will provide opportunities for issues of common interest to the UK Government and the Holy See to be discussed at the highest level.
The Holy See has a global reach and so is a valuable international partner for the UK Government. Our relationship with the Holy See enables us to address jointly a range of foreign policy and development issues. These include working towards delivery of the Millennium Development Goals, addressing the impacts of climate change, preventing and resolving conflict, and finding ways to encourage disarmament.
As with any bilateral diplomatic relationship, there are issues on which we disagree. The Holy See is clear on our positions on these issues. However, we believe that Pope Benedict’s visit will provide an opportunity to strengthen and build on our relationship with the Holy See in areas where we share interests and goals, and to discuss those issues on which our positions differ.
Since the visit has the status of a State Visit, and some parts of the programme are being organised by the British Government, a proportion of the costs of the Visit will fall to the Government. The costs can be divided into two categories: policing costs, which will be met by the State from existing policing budgets, and non-policing costs, which will be split between the Catholic Church and the Government. The total size of the costs at this stage is not confirmed but discussions are currently under way to decide the appropriate levels of contribution from the Government and the Catholic Bishops’ Conferences of England and Wales, and of Scotland. Other parts of the programme, such as the Masses and other pastoral events, are the responsibility of the Catholic Bishops’ Conferences. The direct costs of these events will therefore be borne by the Catholic Church.
Piss off pope your not welcome in Australia, the UK, Sweden, Norway, America, etc and keep your mouth shut on “outdated” and “droconian” views on female priests, contraception, stem cells, abortion, gambling, unmarried heterosexual couples living together, gay marriage or homosexuality, and STOP protecting rapists and child molestors.
The pope should keep his stupid and insane views to himself only in his head and stay in the Vatican and nowhere else, where he belongs!!!!!
The pope should also be BANNED from stepping outside of Vatican City!!!!!
What did you expect from the homophobic ConDem government ???
I’m sure the pope is coming to try and prevent the final stages of marriage equality for gays. Civil Uniions in churches, and changing civil unions to marriages.
From the old man in a dress, who participated in the hiding of vile crimes against children. And who in 2009 UNexcommunicated a Bishop Williamson, who is a holocaust denier.
May I remind you that it was the Labour government that invited him. Whilst the response could have been more supportive lets not loose sight or have sudden selective memory over who asked him to set foot in this country.
And in response to my own comment (15)… If Ken was still Mayor he’d be inviting him and the last Labour government would probably have given him full asylum!! (only if he promosed to vote Labour that is!)
again I’m agreeing with Squidgy!
the government response is the usual BS that only shows how little they care about LBG issues when it comes to religious homophobia! Milliband is as bad! Aren’t the ConDem alliance needing to save money yet they can waste £12 million on this waste of air and time!
May I remind you that it was the Labour government that invited him
But the torys still have time to cancel!
The Government should order an immediate review of UK’s ties with the Vatican …otherwise it will be seen to be promoting the Vatican and colluding with it against women, against LGBT people, and against victim’s of clerical rape & torture.
Jesus didn’t live in a palace with its own currency and army or wear expensive clothes and jewellery Mr Pope.
You need to check your figures Mr Patten because I think you will find the figure is more like £20 million excluding security costs (which have been forecast by experts will exceed £70 million). I don’t think it unrealistic to say that the cost of the Popes visit will reach or exceed £100 million. There are far more pressing things to spend £100 million on in the current economic climate than a visit by a hate preacher who has denied justice to victims of child sex abuse.
How can the government speak of passing policing costs for the Popes visit onto the taxpayer when they are already proposing to cut policing budgets across the country by 25%, and also at a time when the UK taxpayer is facing a radical program of cuts that will impact the most vulnerable members of society for several decades.
My placards are already prepared so I can take to the streets for one of the multiple protests that will take place around this poisonous, odious characters visit.
Looks like im gona be in London on the 18th Sep
PS Ken would not be having this wanker round for tea Squidgy