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David Hyde Pierce speaks of Prop 8 pain

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  1. Ignacio_N 7 Jul 2010, 2:20pm

    didn’t know he was a ‘homer’, wonders never cease.

  2. The American form of democracy, in which the majority can vote away the civil rights of the minority in some states, even after the Court has ruled in favour of the minority, is a sad travesty. But we are not in a position to throw stones so long as we still have aristocracy in the HL by right of birth, and so many unelected bishops, deciding on how we as gay people are allowed to live our lives. Our own democracy must be an international joke.

  3. Jenny Bliss 7 Jul 2010, 3:52pm

    @two
    if you have enough money you can influence politics to do most things really, without going into too much detail (becuase it is far too long lol) what happened with the whole prop 8 thing was a direct result of the morman church who pumped millions upon millions of $ to make sure things went their way

  4. People vote against what they fear and don’t know. Had David Hyde Pierce come out of the closet much earlier, especially at the height of his fame, he could have helped educate the straight public that eventually voted for this proposition.

  5. Jenny Bliss
    > …what happened with the whole prop 8
    > thing was a direct result of the morman church who pumped
    > millions upon millions of $ to make sure things went their way

    That was one of the problems, but the catholic, evangelical and pentecostal sects, especially the ethnic minority and megachurches did their bit too. And then there were the outright blood libels that were put out by those campaigns (which should be illegal hate-speech, since they have genocidal intent), as evidenced during the ongoing legal case, and some lack of focus by the leadership of our side.

    Mike
    > People vote against what they fear and don’t know. Had David
    > Hyde Pierce come out of the closet much earlier, especially at
    > the height of his fame, he could have helped educate the
    > straight public that eventually voted for this proposition.

    Playing a character who came over as gay but was married and lusting after a woman, in a sophisticated, low-key and minority sitcome, I really doubt his being out would have done much to help. Perhaps you are confusing him with the character he played; that if the character had been gay…? But that was not the actor’s decision to make.

    A much more appropriate target for your comment are all the self=hating people at the core of the opposition; preachers, politicians, and such as George W Reckers, exposed earlier this year, after a career spent inventing reparative therapy (and torturing many children), telling churches LGB&T people must be “cured”, and lecturing how adoption by same sex couples must be prevented, whilst adopting many teenage boys himself.

    Without such people the opposition would hardly care.

    Isn’t it time gay men started to work out how to stop those men (it happens among women and trans people too, but it is always the men who get the real positions to do the harm), and boys like them, being so desperate not to be gay, and so hateful towards the rest of us? Is it fear of gay sex, fear of others like them, dislike of how they see the “gay community”, or just belief of the religious hate-texts? All of those are possible to change.

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