Fcuking firemen.

‘homosexual lifestyle’…’homosexual agenda’….What are these things? What exactly do you mean by those things? Because I’m gay and I haven’t got a clue what your talking about and neither have you by the sounds of it. My life is pretty much like everyone elses, give or take, so what exactly is this ‘homosexual lifestyle’ you mention? And what makes you think that you are qualified or entitled to dictate and decide how gay men and women live their lives and to define their ‘lifestyle’? Can you define my ‘lifestyle’ please? What does a typical day for me look like?

I see no suggestion in what gay men and women are asking for apart from a desire and wish to be treated with fairness, dignity and respect and to be recognised and included and acknowledged as human beings with as much right to justice and equality as all human beings. How exactly does the concept of justice and equality for everyone without discrimination fly in the face of Biblical morality?

And ‘totalitarian’. Thats rich coming from the likes of YOU!

Says who?

Have you read any of the following books (to name but a few)? And if not why not and what makes you then think that you can come here and speak with authority about what the Bible does and doesn’t say and mean, and about gay people and gay sexuality?

The Nag Hammadi Library In English by James Robinson

The Complete Dead Sea Scrolls In English by Geza Vermes

The Lost Books Of The Bible By William Hone

The Lost Gospel: The Book Of Q And Christian Origins by Burton L Mack

The Lost Gospel Q: The Original Sayings of Jesus by Marcus J. Borg, and Ray Riegert

The Gospel Of Thomas: Annotated & Explained by Stevan L. Davies

How To Read The Bible by Richard Holloway

The Bible – The Basics by John Barton

Christian Perspectives On Sexuality And Gender by Adrian Thatcher

Philosophical Perspectives On Sex & Love by Robert M. Stewart

Learn Biblical Hebrew: A Guide To Learning The Hebrew Alphabet, Vocabulary & Sentence Structure Of The Hebrew Bible By Jeff A. Benner

The Ancient Hebrew Language and Alphabet: Understanding the Ancient Hebrew Language of the Bible Based on Ancient Hebrew Culture and Thought by Jeff A. Benner

Theology: The Basics by Alister E. McGrath

Straight Parents Gay Children: Inspiring Families to Live Honestly and with Greater Understanding by Candace Gingrich

Introducing Liberation Theology by Leonardo Boff

The Misunderstood God: The Lies Religion Tells Us About God
by Darin Hufford

Biblical Nonsense: A Review of the Bible for Doubting Christians
by Jason H Long

Sins of Scripture: Exposing the Bible’s Texts of Hate to Reveal the God of Love by John Shelby Spong

Rescuing The Bible From Fundamentalism By John Shelby Spong

What the Bible Really Teaches: A Challenge to Fundamentalists by Keith Ward

Lost Christianities:​ The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew by Bart D. Ehrman

Inner Christianity: A Guide To The Esoteric Tradition By Richard Smoley

The Church and the Homosexual by John J. McNeill

Anything But Straight: Unmasking the Scandals and Lies Behind the Ex-gay Myth by Wayne R. Besen

From Queer to Eternity: Spirituality in the Lives of Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual People by Peter Sweasey

What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality by Helminiak Daniel

The Social Psychology of Sexuality by Professor Glynis Breakwell

The Hidden Gospel: Decoding the Spiritual Message of the Aramaic Jesus by Neil Douglas-Klotz

Exchanging the Truth of God for a Lie: One Man’s Spiritual Journey to Find the Truth About Homosexuality by Jeremy Marks

Charismania: When Christian Fundamentalism Goes Wrong by Roland Howard

The Boswell Thesis: Essays on Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality by M Kuefler

The Bible, Christianity, & H​omosexuality by Justin R. Cannon

Not for Turning: Report of an Enquiry into the Ex-Gay Movement by Tony Green, et al

The Secret Gospels of Jesus: The Definitive Collection of Gnostic Gospels and Mystical Books About Jesus of Nazareth by Marvin Meyer

Instead go kill them with kindness. Kiss them on the facecheek, offer them some booze. And more booze.

And when they are loaded, offer to have a little sex fun with them in a private place.

Youre bound to get some takers – the closeted gays who throw out their self hatred on others to try and hide who they are.

At least you’d be doing both an act of charity as they scream more more harder harder faster faster.

And have it videod to help them come out of the closet when their mind clears. Hallelujah

Get your head out of the clouds.

Even at the age of 5 I saw through the lot of it.

However I knew something was different.

I did not know at the time, sex being an alien concept.

I spent the formative part of my teens assisting my parents with
my severely mentally handicapped sister as I still do now.

She has Praeder Willi syndrome.

Look it up. ( it’s not nice )

I then spent years protecting her when she went to her
“special school” from , lets say at the moment people
who did not understand her condition and could only offer insults
due to their ill informedness.

She was born missing a Chromosome. Namely recognized as Number 15.

Still, being a child of the 70′s I had nothing to compare my inherent feelings
with given the only media representations of how I felt at the time.

Presently, I support 18 various charities through either working directly
or offering money to the tune of £240,000 per year.

I have also been diagnosed with terminal cancer, and at the end of my life
all that will be in my head, is how hateful you alleged christians actually are.

Not one word of Jesus’s message has entered into your thick skulls.

Even as a dying aithiest I know the Jesus message better than you.

How sad.

JohnK’s response
The BNP are well known to have Evangelical Fundamentalist Clergy amongst their ranks. When the list of BNP membership was published online a few years ago these people were exposed.
Sola . . . you appear to have a short memory

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Sola Scripture Wrote
I am opposed to the BNP and I have no dealings with, nor support from them, nor would I want any support from them.Again I note the viciousness and hostility of the “gay” lobby towards anyone who opposes them, particularly Christians.

JohnK’s response
We are opposed to homophobia, heterosexism, and other oppressive mindsets which some Christians think are comparable with Jesus teachings; which hare clearly not. Jesus preached “Love” not hatred. If we appear opposed to you “Sola” it is because we view you as preaching and inciting hatred, and we are wondering when you are going to repent of your homophobia; rather than constantly trying to legitimize your hatred through pick and mix scripture bashing.

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Sola Scripture Wrote
This is a deliberate strategy on the part of “gay” activists i.e. to attack and slander all opposition with a view to silencing it, and “hate crime” laws are one of the weapons used in the “gay” war against the Bible-believing Christian.

JohnK’s response
Sola Hate Crime Laws are a “Civil” intervention . . . there is no gay war, only in your head. Sola you think these things because you are in the grip of paranoia.

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Sola Scripture Wrote
Some years ago, two homosexual activists, Kirk and Madsen, wrote a book entitled, “After the Ball” and they outlined their strategy to persuade and later force America to overcome its fear of “gays”.
They suggested distracting attention away from their sexual conduct and linking their agenda to the civil rights movement.
They proposed three sophisticated propoganda techniques, 1.Desensitising, 2.Jamming, 3.Conversion.They have been remarkably successful in their achievements.
The homosexual agenda is a sinister and deadly attempt to overthrow Biblical morality and it has a totalitarian impulse.

JohnK’s response
Sola clearly desensitising, jamming and conversion have not worked on you. I will send a psychiatrist around to give you a dose of ECT, this might stimulate you brain cells into a less paranoid view of the world.

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Sola Scripture Wrote
I will let the Bible have the last word, “for the wages of sin is death;but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Romans ch.6 v23 and ”
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement” Hebrews ch. 9 v.27.This verse speaks of natural death, which is followed by judgement.
However, there is a second death for unrepentant sinners (all types of sinners), see Revelation ch. 20 vs. 14 and 15.

JohnK’s response
Yawn Yawn Yawn . . . Sola your insistence on quoting from the bible shows you lack of creativity, low intelligence and to put it bluntly, a nonexistent level of reasoning perpetuated by your constant spoon feeding which protects you from thinking for yourself.

Fact 2: LGBT people Don’t! We are Born the way we are.
Get Over it!

Why do religious people feel the need to impose their Lifestyle of hatred on others? Get your heads out of the sewers and respect people for more than what they do in bed… Sickos!

Sounds like a good policy to me…. What we do in our bedrooms is NOBODIES business but our own… and YES, it IS a civil rights issue!

“The homosexual agenda is a sinister and deadly attempt to overthrow Biblical morality and it has a totalitarian impulse.”

Again, what total rubbish. It´s none of your business and totalitarian? Not at all. You live your life and I´ll live mine thanks.

“However, there is a second death for unrepentant sinners (all types of sinners), see Revelation ch. 20 vs. 14 and 15. “

Yeah… there you go again with the ´threats´ metered out by the churches for centuries to control the masses… . ´Repent or you will burn in the fires of hell´ bullsh-t!

Well, I´m not planning on being burnt in any fires any time soon.. I could´nt afford the gas bill… Have you SEEN the price of gas these days?

It´s a shame that if what I believe is true, when YOU die, that will be it. Nothing, Nada. You won´t even get to reflect on a whole life wasted worshiping some all-seeing sky-pilot. A ´god´ who lets people starve and suffer from ´natural disasters´ and other ´acts-of-god´.

You have spend a life filled with hate and ignorance. You certainly won´t be seated at gods ´top-table´ as you obviously hope.

I do seriously worry about your state of mind though… Let´s take a look at the clues shall we?

1) Worships mythical beings
2) Loves to sing (but only on Sundays)
3) Worships and promised undying allegiance to superior MALE
4) Loves men in frocks who are in close proximity to huge candles.
5) Spends a good portion of each day hanging out on gay websites…

Okay, let´s punch the above 5 points into our little computer shall we?

………COMPUTER SAYS….

CLOSET CASE!!!!!

Don’t you get it.

This is a gay magazine’s online web presence discussion board.

It mainly consists of gay people discussing topical subjects
on gay issues.

The problem with your posts is that you come into these discussions attacking us, or informing us how ungodly we are, invoking various rent-a-scripture quoted in the process.

You now have the temerity to question why people go on the offensive and return the attack.

Please go off to the http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/ and spout your bile there.

I’m sure you will find plenty of like minded people to discuss how revolting we nasty gays are.

Run along now. Theres a good boy……