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  1. This is excellent. Some of the old Tory grandees must be thinking of emigrating.
    ;-)

  2. Will Theresa May be there?

    Keep on rainbow-washing, Tories

  3. pete the meat 10 Jun 2010, 4:16pm

    I wonder what exactly the Tories would have to do to please the militants on this site? The 1980s are over guys, move on, its like listening to English football thugs bleating on about the “krauts” every time they face Germany in a football match. Celebrate a positive move rather than sitting mired in decades old misery.

  4. Pete
    I don’t understand where you’re coming from.
    I, for one, am pleased about this.
    What are you basing your comment on?

  5. pete the meat 10 Jun 2010, 4:39pm

    Ian I’m basing my comments on the inevitable forthcoming barrage of criticism there is for the Tory party on this site. Hang around a while, the floodgates will duly open and the diehards will be out in force.

  6. Patrick James 10 Jun 2010, 4:39pm

    Interesting that he stresses this is being done by the coalition government, it sends a handy message to the very large right wing of the party that they are doing it to keep the Lib Dems happy.

    In fact I think that even if the Conservative party had won the election they would be doing this reception on their own. It is now an established event and to cancel it would certainly have raised a lot of LGBT eyebrows.

    The Conservatives under David Cameron will be good at the PR side of things. However when the crunch comes and the desires of the very large right wing of the Conservative party along with Rupert Murdoch clash with those of LGBT people we know who Cameron will be listening to.

    The key LGBT issues ahead for are conflicts of interest with religions and international affairs. On each of these fronts the Conservative party is deeply right wing.

  7. Patrick James 10 Jun 2010, 5:01pm

    pete the meat writes:

    I wonder what exactly the Tories would have to do to please the militants on this site?

    I certainly don’t see myself as a militant, however to please me I think that the Conservatives would have to start actually voting for LGBT issues in Westminster rather than against them. In Europe the Conservatives would have to stop consorting with the far right and advancing far right causes.

    With respect to national issues, the Conservative party was pursuing a strong pro-religion line where religion was seeking the right to discriminate against LGBT people in the House of Commons, the House of Lords and in the parliamentary wash-up period.

    I wrote that to please me the Conservatives would have to stop consorting with the far right in Europe. In fact the alliance the Conservatives have with far right parties is very likely to collapse and the Conservatives will be joining another group. The Conservative MEPs must stop behaving like a far right party themselves whatever group they are in. There needs to be a massive change of culture of the Conservative party in the European parliament.

    The 1980s are over guys, move on, its like listening to English football thugs bleating on about the “krauts” every time they face Germany in a football match. Celebrate a positive move rather than sitting mired in decades old misery.

    I remember the 1980s very well and I do think that the situation in 2010 is very different from how it was then.

    The Labour party has facilitated a massive change in public attitudes towards LGBT people, such that we are now in a completely different environment.

    Fortunately the right in the Conservative party know that it would be very foolish to take on this changed society “head on”.

    What we are going to see in the coming years is an advancement of those with Conservative social interests. The most obvious being that of the Anglican and Catholic churches.

    Amongst other things we will be hearing a great deal about how important the family is. We will be seeing that the “free schools” will be mostly religious schools funded entirely by the state, and that these schools will be at liberty to teach their own curriculum, I suspect, to a very large extent.

  8. Pride *fortnight*!??
    What’s wrong with one big day? We have black awareness month now.
    Why can’t people just make their point in a day?

  9. BobbetStillTheSame 10 Jun 2010, 6:22pm

    And now the toffs want to increase university fees, so only their rich friends and kids can study.

  10. In reply to comment 8.
    yes Spook, lets make our point quickly and then disapear until next year. How about having the world cup in one day. Have one minute per game. ! WE could have speed protesting like speed dating.!

  11. Well done Cameron. You seem to be sticking to your agenda of trying to show that the Tory party has changed and that the gay, yes there are homophobes within the party but the policies are not, good on you…I never could tell the difference between any of the major partys’ gay policies at the election anyway. At least the lib dem and tories were offering some kind of discussion on gay marriage, what the hell was lab offerring ,just more outdated and crap ecnomic and nanny state type policies…My estimation went up when you got rid of hips , carry on with the good work…

  12. The way this article has been written I must ask will the T be invited or is it just for the select Stonewall elite!

  13. This is great news. An excellent start Mr. Cameron.

  14. Instead of cheese & wine receptions at No.10, they need to start with sorting out legislation. That is, after all, what will make a real and important improvement for LGBT Britons.

  15. de Villiers 10 Jun 2010, 11:59pm

    > Instead of cheese & wine receptions at No.10, they need to start with sorting out legislation.

    These are not mutually exclusive.

  16. yes how about inviting real gay people from the street of the UK to attend i didn’t vote for Stionewall to represent me in any way

    Arise Lady summerskill Im mean Lord

  17. SteveDenver 11 Jun 2010, 7:34am

    Does this mean that there is hope for conservatives?

  18. @gav

    If you read the article properly instead of the usual Labour ‘just seeing the bits you don’t like’ you’d see that attendees Include gay charties, equality campaigners, celebrities, gay businessmen and women….

    It’s strange that you single out the Excellent hard working Stonewall, when there is no mention of them in this article. The only person singled out is P. Tatchell. Quite right too, actually something good Labour did, bar Tatchell. He certainly Doesn’t speak for me!

  19. I take it as a given that all the gay cabinet ministers will be attending.

  20. This is good news. It really does pain the Ghetto Gay victim tendency who would rather live their lives hating the Tories for what is now history.

    I remember being a spectator at the Pride March Boris led a couple of years ago. As he came by a group of women started shouting “shame! Shame!” at him. I asked why they were doing it.

    “He’s not done enough for us,” was the reply.

    “Well shouldn’t you acknowledge at the very least that he’s here doing this? It’s something isn’t it?”

    And then I got a barrage of verbal abuse. Some people just love wallowing in their victim status and no matter how much Tories change there’ll always be some who want to continue operating as a special interest client group of Labour’s. Fortunately, as time moves on that number dwindles…

  21. Matthew Sephton 11 Jun 2010, 10:14am

    Well done David Cameron! This is fantastic news!

    As the article clearly says “gay charities, equality campaigners, celebrities, gay businessmen and women and the pink press” will be attending. It will not simply be one group or another, but a host of different groups and individuals.

    A most heartening start for the LGBT community under this new Government.

  22. BrazilBoysBlog 11 Jun 2010, 11:31am

    Its a start. I would rather this than have been merely forgotten after the election. Now lets see what they actually DO in practice…

    @ Squidgy. “The only person singled out is P. Tatchell. Quite right too, actually something good Labour did, bar Tatchell. He certainly Doesn’t speak for me!”

    Bloody ingrate! I don´t think Peter claims to speak for you. Peter speaks for Peter, (as he is quite entitled to do!)

    Peter has continued to put himself on the line for lesbian and gay equality both in the UK and abroad. He does not just ´talk the talk´, he ´walks the walk´.

    He does not ´speak for you´, yet you are quite happy to enjoy the rights won, (in no small part), by the tireless work of gay rights activists such as Peter.

    This man cares passionately about equal rights and fair-play for all.

    Some people on here, who are quite happy to be critics from the safety of their armchairs, who are quite happy to gripe about the good things that others actually DO, are frankly not worthy to lick this mans shoes!

    Come back and I´ll gladly listen to you when you have actually DONE just 10% of what Peter has!

  23. “A most heartening start for the LGBT community under this new Government. ”

    And I for this we have the LibDems to thank.

    Notice this comment:

    “A Downing Street spokesman stressed the reception was being held by the coalition government ”

    Why are they stressing that it is a coaltion event?

    Oh yes – so later on they can turn around to the bigotted Tory rank and file and say ‘Oh – that gay event was a LibDem idea, we’re the Tories and we still support your homophobia’.

    The new coalition has not engaged in any homophobia yet.

    This event is gesture politics.

    I look forward to the Tories supporting marriage equality. David Cameron said that he would ‘consider’ this before the election, even before they entered coalition with the far more gay friendly LibDems. .

    Now that they are in coalition with the LibDems I think David Cameron has no excuse not to legislate for marriage equality.

    Unless of course his commitment to equality starts and ends with gesture politics like this Pride reception.

  24. I wonder if this reception will mark the offial start of the Tories eating babies and burning all gays at the stake?

    That was after all what were promised would happen if they were elected.

    Funnily enough though my neighbours haven’t turned up with their pitch forks to cart me off to the nearest government funded bonfires yet

  25. Let’s wait and see what happens when the Tories start their funding of viciously homophobic faith schools, and start dismantling the human rights act.

    Well at least the LibDems are there to keep the extremists lunatics like Iain Duncan Smith and his ilk in check.

  26. “and start dismantling the human rights act”

    Perhaps we can have a big party to celebrate the end of the criminals protection charter!

  27. BrazilBoysBlog 11 Jun 2010, 1:07pm

    @ 24, “Funnily enough though my neighbours haven’t turned up with their pitch forks to cart me off to the nearest government funded bonfires yet”

    My god, some people are SO impatient! They have only been in government a short while, give ´em time!

  28. BrazilBoysBlog 11 Jun 2010, 1:14pm

    @ 26 “Perhaps we can have a big party to celebrate the end of the criminals protection charter!”

    Oh yeah…let´s just give up ALL of our hard-won rights!

    In fact, let´s just make it legal for anyone to do what they want against us with impunity?

    Yeah… great idea that one.. Let´s party.

  29. MartiM, No. 23…..”Considering” marriage equality is code for NO. Had he said “supporting” it, then that’s an entirely different issue. I predict, not going to happen under Labour or Tory governments, neither are that much evolved on the subject and take their cues from StonewallUK, another naysayer. That’s one of the reasons Peter Tatchell won’t be invited to any labour or tory reception, bunch of cowards that they are. Peter has stuck his neck out more than anyone I know, often putting his life at risk fighting for full equality. How many of his critics can claim the same? NONE! They don’t like the truth because it makes them uncomfortable. The truth always hurts for some.

  30. Is it not obvious that this is just a photo opportunity? I am in no doubt whatsoever that this government will do absolutely nothing for LGBT. 99% of politics is image, image without policy or action. The Tories are & always have been a religious family party. This has not changed. They will never champion anything that goes against those values. They are right wing, always have been, always will be. They will gladly exploit minorities to gain brownie points. There will be no further positive changes in the law for LGBT until they’re gone. It will be the same as last time, a wilderness of no policy or action with a sweetener of tolerance only from their public face.

    Labour legalised homosexuality back in the 60s, the Tories then came in and gave us 18 years of nothingness, but did get busy and introduce clause 28 against us. No need to delve into age of consent either is there, that they felt it would encourage something they hated before their perfect childrens’ brains had ‘fully developed’ in the vain hope they could prevent them being be gay. An implication that gay was something to be stopped, a bad thing & not to be encouraged. Something to be ashamed of, something that was definitely a choice, something that allowed all those evil gay men and women out there to corrupt and make their children gay. I can’t believe anyone on these pages are falling for it, or that you think this ‘coalition’ government is a different political animal. It isn’t. While Cameron runs the country, Nick Clegg will be sat on a wooden stool in the Downing Street kitchen, shirt sleeves rolled, eating a sandwich with all the other servants. Remember that Clegg sold his party and its policies down the river, just so he could take his only opportunity of ever being a part of a government in his lifetime. There’s the measure of a man you think will soften the Tories and add the possibility of improved policy for us?

  31. @ MartinM

    Still whinging for the sake of it I see. Wasn’t you one of the ones, coming up to the election who kept harping on about if the Tories got in then All our rights would be gone within a month?

    Must really p!ss you off that a month in and ‘dem bad Tories’ haven’t done what you seemed to wish for. So now something good and still you droll on. Labour are out mate, get over it!

    Bitter pill to swallow eh?

  32. Louise No. 30, you’re right about one thing. The Tory party IS a religious family party and to some extent so is Labour. Its the reason why both parties ignore and refuse to support full civil marriage equality. If Clegg had any guts, he’d demand that Cameron allow us that right, but he won’t because just like Blair, Brown and now Cameron, they’re afraid of the religious cultists. They’d rather avoid upsetting their religious beliefs than do the right thing by us no thanks to the aiding and abetting of StonewallUK just to get some semblance of equality. We have a long way to go before we get there. Eight countries have surpassed us on that one alone.

  33. This is good news no matter how hypocritical and two-faced it is: it means that l&g people are a political constituency that need to be courted. Could anyone imagine that 20 years ago?

  34. pete the meat 11 Jun 2010, 4:50pm

    @4 in response to your post Ian check out exactly what I meant by having a peruse over what MartinM has stated. The embittered are still alive and kicking, like I said the 1980′s persecution complex will take a lot longer to get rid of than you think.

  35. Sister Mary Clarance 11 Jun 2010, 10:14pm

    “Ian I’m basing my comments on the inevitable forthcoming barrage of criticism there is for the Tory party on this site. Hang around a while, the floodgates will duly open and the diehards will be out in force.”

    Well done Pete, its almost like you’re the second coming of Doris Stokes. Either that or you’ve been here the ten minutes needed to realise that the Labour deadwood will dive into any story about the Tories and run it down however gay friendly or equality minded the Tories appear to be in it.

    If however you are the second coming, could you confirm five of the six lottery numbers next week (Saturday not Wednesday please) and the bonus ball number. I’d rather not share the win with anyone either if that is within your gift.

    May you be blessed for your kindness.

  36. Well done David Cameron! This is fantastic news!

    As the article clearly says “gay charities, equality campaigners, celebrities, gay businessmen and women and the pink press” will be attending. It will not simply be one group or another, but a host of different groups and individuals.

    A most heartening start for the LGBT community under this new Government.

    Comment by Matthew Sephton

    This is not a dig a your party Matthew Sephton but are the T included in your little list to goto number ten because the article just says gay with no mention of the LB&T.

    Are all the LGBT included in the invitation?

  37. @7 – Patrick James – I agree with you. A step in the right direction for the Conservatives but let us see some real results after all this puffing by giving full rights to the LGBT Community.

  38. Sister Mary Clarance 12 Jun 2010, 10:55am

    Bitter Louise?

    Never mind – you get another vote in 4 years or so and maybe the rest of the country will have forgiven Labour for the destruction of the economy by then. Hopefully not though.

  39. Sister Mary Clarance 12 Jun 2010, 11:11am

    “Let’s wait and see what happens when the Tories start their funding of viciously homophobic faith schools, and start dismantling the human rights act.”

    Martin (Simon), lets cast our minds back to 2001, I think it was, when Tony Blair pushed an increase in the numbers of faith schools against the wishes or his own party and public opinion.

    Interestingly though the main reason those few in favour of faith schools at the time advocated them was because their felt that there was good discipline. So maybe addressing issues of discipline in schools, antisocial behavior and crime and disorder would go some way to swaying the opinions of those in favour or faith school education.

    None of which Labour saw fit to address with any degree of success in its government.

  40. louise #30 is right. just been on the daily mail website for this story and never seen so much homophobic scum for years. they’re like an upmarket BNP. reminded me of a few people on this website.
    parties are fine, its good to see Cameron is at least admitting that we have the right to exist, but its policies that will make a difference to our lives. lets see what the first policy is that the coalition put through parliament.

  41. Sister Mary Clarance 12 Jun 2010, 1:24pm

    Jay – the Daily Mail and the Tory party don’t actually have any connection to be fair, and before you say it was Daily Mail Readers who put them in No 10, I think you’ll find they got considerably more votes than the Daily Mail circulation.

    On the subject of an upmarket BNP, do you not think that ‘British jobs for British workers’ comment sounded a little to the right shall we say, or Margaret Hodge’s assertion that the Government “prioritised the needs of an individual migrant family over the entitlement that others feel they have to resources in the community”, was (to say the least) right of centre.

    After all Margaret herself has shown what a valuable contribution immigrants can make to British society given the chance, born in Egypt herself to German parents.

  42. I so hope Philippa Stroud has been invited to attend the gay reception, what fun she’ll have facing her demons.

  43. silly billy 13 Jun 2010, 12:21pm

    Well said Pavlos.

  44. BobbetStillTheSame 13 Jun 2010, 5:24pm

    The tories can throw champagne parties, that we all know, but if they don’t advance equality rights, they account to nothing. This PR reception means nothing, unless Mr Chameleon himself and his party promise favouring gay marriage and total equality for gay people. They should introduce legislation in this regard, and push for its implementation.

  45. BobbetStillTheSame 13 Jun 2010, 5:28pm

    But instead, he and his party, using the argument of an “economic crisis”, are manipulating the transfer of clout and capital, from the sick and poor to the well and rich.

  46. Sister Mary Clarance 13 Jun 2010, 6:49pm

    BobbetStillTheSame – of course taking a look at the facts, the divide between rich and poor actually increased under Labour.

    Not to muddy the water with facts of course …

  47. BobbetStillTheSame 13 Jun 2010, 7:07pm

    Sister, if the gap between the rich and the poor increased in the last few years, it will increase even further and at a faster rate under the Tories. That’s nothing new. How do you think the toffs keep their lifestyle, but milking of the poor? They’re already promoting the increase of quality education fees, so only the rich will have access. Following close on promoting only private and expensive services, again only the rich will have access. They are in effect tranferring wealth to the rich.

  48. How can you all praise this man when before he became a politician he was part of a chruch who were trying to change gays into straights because he and the rest of them felt it was gods wish to do so ?

  49. human rights are for everyone and only idiots won’t see why that is

  50. silly billy 14 Jun 2010, 5:15am

    Excuse me A, we are not all praising this man. I looked for a moment at the photograph accompanying the article, and you know what, he reminded me of something. Then I realised it was a Tory in fact. Those lips, those teeth; manicured as his personality may be to Con people into thinking he is okay, his thin-lipped meanness comes through anyway. At least his politics are obvious, and will do what Tory governments always do by taking money from Joe Public to give to their rich friends. It is the weirdo Clegg-types I fear, power-hungry self-righteous gnome-size-brain people are a bit more difficult to decipher.

  51. Sister Mary Clarance 14 Jun 2010, 9:20am

    “Sister, if the gap between the rich and the poor increased in the last few years, it will increase even further and at a faster rate under the Tories.”

    Ahh, but the reality of it is Bobbet, that it increased under Labour – lets deal in facts not in suppositions.

    “At least his politics are obvious, and will do what Tory governments always do by taking money from Joe Public to give to their rich friends”

    Have you been on a long holiday or something sillybilly – that’s exactly what Labour have been doing?

    Do either of you have the slightest clue what Labour did in power by any chance. Everything suggests you don’t.

    Can you maybe come up with an actual cricicism of the Conservatives that HASN’T actually been NuLabour policy for a good long while?

  52. “Sister, if the gap between the rich and the poor increased in the last few years, it will increase even further and at a faster rate under the Tories.”

    So what you sound like your saying is Labour doing it is fine but the Tories doing it is worse?

    It clearly doesn’t matter that the rich/poor divide under Labour is at it’s widest since the 2nd World War.

    Hypocrite much??!!

  53. BobbetStillTheSame 14 Jun 2010, 2:07pm

    Some do have a vested interest in milking of the poor. Some may be awaiting to receive a lordship. Some of those are gay toffs who will sell their brothers and sisters to achieve their goals.

  54. They are going to bring back child labour, and send kids from poor families up chimneys. All Black people will be enslaved and all gays chemically castrated except their toff friends from Eton.

    Bobbet, I think the meds need tuned.

  55. Is it really any surprise that people still hate the Tories? It was under them that Section 28 was allowed to exist. It was under them that many gay men and women were harrassed by police and had to deal with institutional homophobia. Just because Cameron hosts a party doesn’t mean that we’ve all of a sudden gained full acceptance and equality.

    However, I can understand and appreciate that this is a very real positive step and must have taken a good deal of guts.

    Also, don’t slag off Peter Thatchell. You may not agree with the way he does things but at least he gets them done. I can’t believe the amount of people who sit there and slag the activists off while holding their partners hands or kissing their boyfriend/girlfriend in a bar in Soho without harrassment.

  56. Sister Mary Clarance 14 Jun 2010, 4:44pm

    “Some may be awaiting to receive a lordship”

    Bobbet there you go again – which party was selling the things to the highest bidder? Your beloved Labour Party.

    Peers from which party were flogging their frigging votes to the highest bidder? Your beloved Labour Party.

    There is no despicable act you suggest the Tories might do that Labour haven’t done in the last few years. They’ll be writing books for years to come about their crooked ways. They shamelessly took stupid people for a ride. People too stupid to even realise they were being conned.

    Please please before you accuse the Toreis of something else, google it first to make sure it wasn’t something Labour have been up to for years.

  57. silly billy 14 Jun 2010, 7:49pm

    Sister Mary Clarence; Re the long holiday. I soooo, soooo wish.
    And isn’t it sad that the only human interest story to arise so far is about one Toff having it off with another, younger Toff, quite possibly in a hotel room designed for purpose and paid for by the likes of us. Bloody heterosexual Tories. At it again like rabbits in warrens, undermining our political landscape. Or, rather yours. My landscape does not comprise people pretending they are morally cleansed in the sight of god. It was her wasn’t it who campaigned on the basis of being a good upright Christian, stuffed full of moral purpose and against sex outside marriage? I did google this. Seems like she’s on her own (well, proverbially anyway).

  58. BrazilBoysBlog 14 Jun 2010, 8:06pm

    @55 Danny.

    Here hear mate!

  59. Nikolai Alekseev 15 Jun 2010, 3:41pm

    Very distressing that Peter Tatchell was not invited at this reception. Although I know he does not really care about such things it is a matter of principle.

    Peter is Britain’s Best Ambassador in terms of gay rights. He has done much to help us as he could in Russia. I wrote to Cameron’s office to complain.

    When we turn to support from Russia, the UK Embassy in Moscow is always unavailable to answer our calls, but when we call Peter, he always answer and bring his support.

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