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Talks between Labour and Lib Dems ‘have failed’

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  1. Patrick James 11 May 2010, 6:03pm

    As a Labour guy I’m really rather relieved. I was sceptical about a coalition between Labour and several other parties. I remember very well that it was the SDLP that refused to support the James Callaghan led government in 1979 because of a specifically Norther Ireland issue.

    The problem of course is that we will now see the Con-Dem beast in power. Reports are that David Cameron is putting together his cabinet with the very right wing figures from his part who were all hidden during the election. The rubbish about the Conservatives adopting progressive politics can be abandoned by Cameron now that the election is over.

    I doubt very much that the LGBT rights policies of the Lib Dems will survive in the Con-Dem beast :(

  2. Sister Mary Clarence 11 May 2010, 6:26pm

    “Reports are that David Cameron is putting together his cabinet with the very right wing figures from his part who were all hidden during the election. The rubbish about the Conservatives adopting progressive politics can be abandoned by Cameron now that the election is over.”

    Have you got any more of that Patrick I can throw it on the roses?

    Where do you get your information from …. ‘right wing figures hidden during the election’ my @rse

    Take a look at NuLabour’s policies – its hard to imagine that anyone could be more right-wing.

    Its living in cloud cuckoo land that got us into this mess in the first place.

  3. Patrick’s right
    the news said about the right wanting to be part of the cabinet if they agreed to a lib-dem partnership, plus cameron can do what he likes

  4. The LibDem/Lab talks failed because Brown was torpedoed by his own party; is that the idea??

    @1 Con-Dem beast = National Interest. Oh my.

  5. Patrick James 11 May 2010, 7:04pm

    Chester writes:

    Patrick’s right

    the news said about the right wanting to be part of the cabinet if they agreed to a lib-dem partnership, plus cameron can do what he likes

    I heard it on Radio Four so it is a pretty good source for me to say that reports are that David Cameron is putting together his cabinet with the very right wing figures from his part who were all hidden during the election.

    Sister Mary Clarence should really listen to the news perhaps?

    Maybe that would prevent him from making such a fool of himself?

    During the general election the Conservative party effective “hid” many of the people we will see them put into the Cabinet. This is because so many of the British public find them pretty offensive.

  6. Let’s pause and remember that since coming to power in 1997, Labour repealed every single law that discriminated against gay people and provided us with full civil rights.

    Thank you. I’ll never forgot the debt of gratitude I owe you.

  7. Patrick James 11 May 2010, 7:09pm

    Jean-Paul writes:

    The LibDem/Lab talks failed because Brown was torpedoed by his own party; is that the idea??

    I am 100% opposed to the Con-Dem beast taking power in the UK. Anyone who has followed my comments in this blog will be absolutely aware of that!

    However that “progressive alliance” coalition would not have lasted a fortnight. The Scottish Labour MPs, for example, will not sit happily in a Westminster coalition with the SNP. So I don’t think it was realistic. There were too many conflicts of interest between the various parties.

  8. It’ll be painful to watch the homophobic tories walking all over Alan Duncan. What is the best he can expect from Dave Chameleon? Denial and half a bone on his plate.

  9. Phrases that you will likely hear to justify bigotry:
    I’m not homophobic, I have a gay friend, but …
    Freedom of conscience and expression …
    The religious are being persecuted …

  10. And also:
    Whining queens, FFS, we’re in the middle of an economic crisis, “in the national interest” can’t you take “a little bit” of racism on your chin?

  11. silly billy 11 May 2010, 8:08pm

    Labour were the best we have ever had. Prior to Labour, many, many people lived in debt and in fear. Labour didn’t do enough to redress this but they did do a lot. People who disagree with that frankly are either young, ignorant of the facts, or have lost their memories. I think that if Clegg goes with the Tories, as it seems he will, it will be the most uncomfortable few years we have ahead. Sounds too like the Kingmaker who wouldn’t be a Kingmaker has got himself a little throne. Pompous, boring, predictable, and a liar before we set off with this bunch. He will betray many in his own party, and he has betrayed the public. What a nice pair of honourable chaps we will have determining laws that govern and affect our lives. I also agree with Patrick, it would have been very difficult to sustain a Lab/Lib. I am very sorry that Cleg seems to be going in though with Cameron as I think the countries deserve another election.

  12. Hodge Podge 11 May 2010, 8:25pm

    Lib Dems will be able to bring down the government if they try anything on the scale of Section 28. (The Tories might win the following election, but you can’t help that…)

    On the other hand, Trans rights will stop progressing aboouuuutttt… now. They’re an easy sacrifice for bigots on the right of the Conservatives. Marriage Equality is unlikely to go anywhere, it would probably be used by the media to draw us-and-them divisions. We’ll have to see what Clegg has pulled off in terms of taxes.

  13. de Villiers 11 May 2010, 10:19pm

    > Let’s pause and remember that since coming to power in 1997, Labour repealed every single law that discriminated against gay people and provided us with full civil rights.

    We have much for which to thank the left. The right would never have pursued equal rights with such determination.

    However, let’s pause and remember that much of this was done as a result of court decisions in Europe that the Labour government fought and lost. Let’s remember also that much of this was to implement mandatory EU directives.

    Finally, let’s recall that this government has criminalised speech that criticises religion, gave a knighthood to Sir Iqbal Sacranie who said on Radio 4 that he believed homosexuality to be “not acceptable” and same-sex civil partnerships to be “harmful”, appointed in January 2010 thirteen faith advisors to advise on policy making and invited the Pope to make a state visit to the UK.

    We can thank the left whilst being balanced.

  14. Hodge Podge 11 May 2010, 10:36pm

    “Lib Dems will be able to bring down the government if they try anything on the scale of Section 28.”

    I say that, we’ll have to see what the fixed term parliament agreement ends us up with…

  15. Well for starters Theresa May, our new “equality” minister, has voted consistently AGAINST gay rights. Check it out for yourself at http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpid=40382&dmp=826

    THIS is the result of David Cameron’s lies. Day 1 of the end of our equality.

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