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Philippa Stroud fails to win parliamentary seat

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  1. well done sutton and cheam gays. you probably swung the vote to keep her out. no wonder Cameron was courting the gay vote… to get his mates into the commons! But he didnt count on this homphobes views coming to light.

  2. you now have time to go back to the church love and arrange the flowers – Im so pleased you failed to win a seat how you could ever represent a gay person. Its you love who suffers from demonic possession

    lee

  3. She should have had the poling station ballot boxes exorcised as it is rumoured that Labour supporting gay evil spirits and wicked fairies were altering the ballot papers inside the boxes!

  4. This and Peter Robinson losing his seat was the best news of the night. It was a tight race in Cheam but I’d like to think the furore her bigoted medieval views had caused and the extensive online and twitter campaigns has proved two things…the tories are the same old tories underneath…but the LBGT voters aren’t falling for their false rhetoric.
    Now the vile Philippa can go back to organising jumble sales, making jam and looking after her kids like a good obedient christian wifey should.

  5. I’m sure she can blame the demons for ruining her chances… it was the evil legions of hell that knocked you back, sweetie, so now you don’t have to take responsibility for the fact you’re a medieval fanatical lunatic.

    I’m delighted!

  6. Hmmm, maybe she was praying to the wrong god huh? Don’t misrepresent what I said or I’ll put out a press injunction. I don’t think Philippa Stroud has an illness, I just wanted to exorcise her from her parliamentary seat ;)

  7. what a shame you are all demonstrating the same bigotry and intolerance that you accuse Philippa of. Have a proper look at her life and career – she will undoubtedly have helped and supported many more people in crisis than most of you.

  8. Good. She was given far too many chances to clear her track record, but for some obscure reason she decided not to. We are not demon possessed Philippa. Learn that.

  9. Jon – By the same token, as Tom Cruise would be the first to remind us, Scientologists do sterling work in the field drug rehab, and deal with a larger number of drug addicts than I have probably seen in my life.
    So let me put it to you, should I accept that the Church of Scientology by virtue of being closely involved in the field of drug rehab is the best global organisation to refer emotionally vulnerable drug addicts to?
    Or should we examine the small print?
    Same difference.

  10. #7 Jon you failed to mention all the people she abused by her xtian bigotry and homophobia, including those she told she could get rid of their “demon” homosexuality by “praying” over them. It would seem to me that her “god” deserted her last night in favor of the “queers”

    She will now have plenty time to “help” and “support” all those in crisis as you so quaintly put it…. More like, more time to spread her homophobia and bigotry.

  11. No 7: Jon: you say: “Have a proper look at her life and career – she will undoubtedly have helped and supported many more people in crisis than most of you.”

    By trying to exorcise their ‘demons’ through prayer?

    That sounds like a psychiatric illness to me. Is she really so stupid, ignorant and ridiculous that she believes being gay is a demon that needs to be cast out.

    I suspect her career in politics may be over. Callmedave won’t want to go near her since her blatantly insane beliefs have been exposed. Callmedave doesn’t care that she believes such hateful nonsense. He doesn’t want the spotlight shone on the less savoury aspects of the Tory grassroots is all.

    She will be much happier in any case being obedient to her husband as her crazy church requires.

  12. “she will undoubtedly have helped and supported many more people in crisis than most of you.”

    Jon, get a life…. “curing” a few closet cases is not helping anyone or society. And anyone who believes in exercising demons as a cause for someone’s sexuality is not mentally fit to dress themselves unattended, let alone represent the public in a modern democracy.

  13. Jon wrote
    “what a shame you are all demonstrating the same bigotry and intolerance that you accuse Philippa of. Have a proper look at her life and career – she will undoubtedly have helped and supported many more people in crisis than most of you.”

    Gay Cures . . . are likely to lead to anxeity, depression and even suicide (Royal College of Psychiatrists)

    Jon . . . You leave me speechless

  14. Jon:
    what a shame you are all demonstrating the same bigotry and intolerance that you accuse Philippa of. Have a proper look at her life and career – she will undoubtedly have helped and supported many more people in crisis than most of you.

    Well do substantiate your claim and and tell us what she has done to help and support people – would she have help gay people also?

    You know nothing about me or other posters here I have help many people many in my life.

    Why would you support her idea that gay people can be cured?

    As they say theres one born every minute

  15. “how sweet the name of jesus sound…” – John Newton, hymn writer wrote many years ago. lol. Pihilippa Stroud’s god must have been fast asleep or was held away from home in an airport due to volcanic ash which meant her (magic) prayers were not answered. May be she has to cure herself first before showing up to cure others.

  16. Thanks all for your comments which just go to prove my point. You are happy to take some unsubstantiated gossip and make some highly intolerant and bigoted – and unintelligent- remarks about religion. – which you claim is intolerant and bigoted???!

    I didnt defend her position – I suggested you look at her background properly and treat her as you would like to be treated- with respect. Its easy to ignorantly slag someone off – but isnt that what the gay community has been rightly and sucessfully campaigning against?

  17. BrazilBoysBlog 7 May 2010, 11:00am

    Yes, this is very good news.. Good to see bigots NOT getting elected (even when their lawyers threaten and try to gag the media!) With todays diverse media and internet, you just cannot gag people and cover-up unpleasant truths.

  18. Good.

    And will the few deluded gays and lesbians who are members of the Tory party please now ensure that Mrs. Stroud is immediately removed from her position as Head of the Tory’s party’s think-tank on “Social Justice”.

    Well done, everyone, for your responses to Jon, above.

    I know an Anglican vicar who has “done good” for people. He and his loyal wife went out to South America many years ago and stripped the native people there of their contented traditions and shoved European Christian voodoo down their throats. Did the English vicar and his loyal wife “do good”? Yes, they brought to the native people bright coloured beads in the shape of basic medical care etc., but they also “did bad” in that they enslaved those native peoples to the deluded idiocy of religion. Those people remain enslaved to the hocus-pocus of Christianity to this day.

  19. “I suggested you look at her background properly and treat her as you would like to be treated”

    You’ve proven nothing. Her background is irrelevant to being challenged for believing in demons causing homosexuality. That is as bigoted as it is stupid. If you can produce proof of demons, by all means do. Otherwise you’re as bad as she is for defending that position as something that has a right to be “respected”.

  20. Thankfully the people have seen the light and stopped the bigoted christians stroud and robinson from getting any power. God musn’t like them very much.

  21. Jon – You’re telling us we missed your point: which if I interpret you correctly is Philippa Stroud did some good work with the homeless so let’s ignore the gay exorcisms and stop being “bigoted” to her. No, I heard that the first time.
    I think you spectacularly missed our point, which is that gay exorcism is not just a petty side issue for us. It strikes at the very heart of gay equality. You might as well ask ethnic minorities to bleach their skin a-la Michael Jackson, then maybe they’d be accepted for who they are to.
    If we ignore gay exorcism as “just one of those irrelevant issues”, it gains political traction and the next thing you know it’s generally accepted that the only reason we’re gay is that we’re full of satan’s spawn and we get frogmarched en-masse to the nearest exorcist by our loving families to have them tell us we’re stuffed full of demons, messing with our minds, resulting in depression and suicide.
    You might want to read Derren Brown’s take on all this as someone who was once brought up as a christian and is now gay.
    http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/05/curing-gays/
    If you think this is irrelevant, try walking a mile in our shoes for once.

  22. Brenda Lana Smith R af D 7 May 2010, 11:42am

    Sadly, she and her Centre for Social Justice still has Cameron’s ear… and he is not beyond elevating his unsuccessful Christian fundamentalist candidate to an unelected House of Lords…

  23. @16 Jon:

    Is that you, John? From the UKIP hustings?? Sure sounds like you.

    Lighten up now.

  24. One occasion when I feel compelled to say ‘Thank God!’

    Great news about Peter Robinson too.

  25. Jon, you seem to be making the rather banal and futile point that few people are wholly bad. Wow, amazing, really? Doesn’t change the fact that her views are wildly misguided and offensive to anyone of compassion and intelligence, gay or not. They are also at odds with her friend and leader’s supposed conversion to gay rights, and so it’s completely legitimate that people should question how she can end up as a prospective parliamentary candidate for supposedly modern tory party.

    And just bloody marvellous that she didn’t make it!

  26. Jon, I don’t know how you can describe the facts about Philippa Stroud as ‘unsubstnatiated gossip’ our resposnes on this site as ‘highly intolerant and bigoted – and unintelligent’.

    First of all, Philippa Stroud is author of a book stating that she’s been involved in ‘praying over people to cast out demons’. This is not unsubstantiated, it has her name on it. And it’s been well established by the testimony of different people who have been victims of her ‘chgurch’ that these mediaeval, barbaric practices were inflicted on them. And she has no professional qualifications to be attempting what amounts to psycholocigal conditioning to pervert someone’s natural, in-born sexuality. The ‘substantiation’ is there, I don’t know why you choose to ignore it.

    As for remarks on here being ‘highly intolerant and bigoted – and unintelligent’ as you put it, I have to say that they’ve generally been quite natural responses of anger towards someone who in 2010 is still practicing the vile abuse which has been inflicted on LGBT people for so long. What the hell do you want ? That we should support her ‘right’ to damage members of our community ? In 1939, would you have expected Jews to march happily into teh concentration camps, saying ‘Well, you know, Adolf has a right to his views, we have to be tolerant – and those Nazis make a lovely sight, all blond and muscular’ ? No way – we haev every right to object to those who would hurt and abuse us, describe us as possessed by demons, and damage our young people by inflicting the primitive religious rituals of the 16th century on them.

  27. Sorry for the host of spelling mistakes above, lack of sleep – up till 3am watching the results!

  28. The religionists “god” deserted them last night. Not one gay seat lost in any party … What does that say jon……. either your God exists and he likes us or he doesn’t and all your bigotry and homophobia is for nowt.

  29. To David Skinner If you are still redaing these pages since you were banned…a question for to to ask of yourself and for you alone to answer. …what happened to the Abrahamic “god” last nite. If he/she or it hates homos so much why did they do so well in the election. There are even more homos in Parliament now than ever.
    Does that not speak very loudly to you.

  30. jon doing good doesnt cancel out doing bad.

  31. GOOD! Justice has been done and has seen to have been done.
    Well done voters!

  32. David W: “What the hell I want’ is for you to see that calling someone a ‘deluded idiot” (Eddy’s comment) or stereotyping ALL Christians as homophobes is as intolerant and bigoted as believing it is possible to cast out a demon of homosexuality- I find both highly offensive.
    I don’t defend homophobia or the appalling treatment of the LGBT community – but you all seem to assume that you have the right to attack Christianity without seeking to clarify or understand. It is clear to see the anger in your comments, maybe at some point you can move beyond reactionary comment to thoughtful and intelligent debate which seeks to understand and build bridges.

  33. “but you all seem to assume that you have the right to attack Christianity without seeking to clarify or understand.”

    I beg to differ – I have EVERY right to stand up to those who want to “cure” me of who I am and who I want to be! There is nothing to “debate” with the ex-gay movement here as you suggest – its scientifically proven to be extremely damaging to the individuals concerned and utterly non-effective, not to mention heinously offensive to all LGBT people.

    And you talk about “respect”?!?!?!? Respect is not, and should not, be demanded by those who are not able to respect the lives and freedoms of others. Maybe you need a lesson in tolerance and reason before you defend these nutters.

    It is clear to see the blind allegiance to Christianity in your comments, maybe at some point you can move beyond dogmatic defence to thoughtful and intelligent debate which seeks to understand and build bridges.

  34. Will said ‘Respect is not, and should not, be demanded by those who are not able to respect the lives and freedoms of others’

    best line yet, very well said indeed.

    Its true, you hear these christian bigots moan about tolerance, when in fact they looking for tolerance of intolerance – the very definition of irony!

    And shame on you jon for defending the so called conversion therapy of gay people, we don’t need or want your cure.

    Its a damning insight to your level of intelligence and respect for democratic freedoms by showing your support for her and her awful “cures” from “demonic possession”

  35. Will, perhaps you should have read my post before your anger made you respond. Its pretty clear in my post that my position is i don’t defend those who try and ‘cure’ homosexuality – in fact i think i said i find it offensive -and yet you are accusing me of defending them and of dogmatism. What is more dogmatic than taking the view that ALL Christians are homophobes and medieval fundamentalists??? Isnt thats like assuming that ALL homosexuals need curing???

  36. Dave ,
    ditto

    Try reading my post before responding to it.

  37. Jean-Paul 7 May 2010, 4:03pm

    Jon, we are venting here…do you mind?

    Leaving aside for a minute the fact that you have completely disrupted our natural venting process, can you tell us if you are gay or not, and also to which Xtian sect you belong? That’s fair, isn’t it?

    And if you refuse to build a bridge with me by answering those two questions, perhaps you could tell me why you insist on posting on a gay site when you could just as easily be comforting Philippa Stroud on her own site.

    Your comments here are not doing anybody any good, and that includes you.

    Green tea?

  38. How THIS for showing off, folks!

    Philippa Phuckin-Stroud has cast out demons in public IN FRENCH!

    “I once saw Philippa cast out a demon in French: that stuck in my mind, I was really impressed that she was fluent enough to talk to a demon in French.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2010/may/07/religion-stroud-exorcism-demons

    Well, I guess, if “The Holy Spirit” does NOT come down and gift you wish a strange and exotic tongue you just better make use of that second language you picked up school, eh, Philippa!

    What a scream!

    How do you say, “What a scream!” in French, Jean-Paul! :-)

  39. Please excuse all my typos in the above, folks! I was just too eager to get you this hilarious story as quickly as possible!

  40. Jean-Paul 7 May 2010, 6:07pm

    “What a scream!”?? Well, I would say: “Sacré bleu!!” he he

    I’ve also heard the French use an Old English word…sounds like “FCUK!”.

  41. Jean-Paul 7 May 2010, 6:34pm

    ..or maybe it was “‘OLEY FCUK!”.

    It’s been a while since I’ve left the château in Lyon.

  42. What poor Jon does not realise is that religious faith is a mental illness, and Stroud suffers from a particularly virulent form: it is called religious mania!

  43. religious faith isn’t always an illness, it’s only bad when it’s used by bigots and others too justify why they can push their poison on others and then whine when they get told where to stick it

  44. “What is more dogmatic than taking the view that ALL Christians are homophobes and medieval fundamentalists??? Isnt thats like assuming that ALL homosexuals need curing???”

    No one is taking the view here that ALL christians are homophobes, can’t you read?

    We are taking the point that this idiot, Ms. Stroud, is a homophobe, and you are supporting her, demand she get some “respect”.

    Well, No. She doesn’t deserve respect, respect is earned. And neither do you for supporting her – as in supporting her demand for “respect”, you must on some level support what she stands for.

  45. Well said, Will.

  46. I think that we should all be heartened by this observation from the National Secular Society:
    “Despite much talk about the “’Christian vote’ swinging the election, the Christian parties lost ground, with one of the candidates for the Christian People’s Alliance garnering only 52 votes. The Christian Party won less than 18,000 in total from its candidates around the country, with most — if not all — of them losing their deposits.

  47. A memo written by William Hague has been leaked. It reveals the Tory’s true colours and shows us all now, once and for all, that Call-Me-Dave has been nothing but window-dressing, a detestable lie. The Tories have an agenda which is in line with Philippa Stroud being Head of their Centre for Social Justice.

    Read:

    “we are committed to returning powers from the European level to the UK in three key areas – the Charter of Fundamental Rights, criminal justice, and social and employment legislation.”

    See the whole article at the link below and notice how the arrogant Hague fully expects to be the new Foreign Minister on Monday and has taken it for granted that Call-Me-Dave will be Prime Minister.

    Here is the proof then. Hague has spelt it out. The Tories intend in the coming weeks to withdraw the UK from all EU regulation regarding the Charter of Fundamental Rights, criminal justice, and social and employment legislation.

    That’s the rights of all we non-religionists and LGBTs down the drain.

    That’s back to church on Sunday for Britain.

    That’s all sorts of businesses granted the right to slam the door in the faces of LGBTs.

    Source:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/09/tory-eurosceptic-letter-william-hague

    PLEASE COPY OF THE ABOVE AND EMAIL IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.

    WE MUST MAKE SUCH A CLAMOUR ABOUT THIS THAT THE LIB-DEMS IMMEDIATELY DITCH ANY NOTIONS OF FORMING A COALITION WITH THE NASTY PARTY.

  48. Jean-Paul 9 May 2010, 7:44pm

    This Cameron/Stroud association may be responsible for this entire mess… a theocracy in the making…the word “skunk” comes to mind.

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