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  1. Patrick James 24 Apr 2010, 1:58am

    We have seen consistently good support for LGBT rights from Labour.

    It is not perfect, I for example would like to see LGBT people being married as opposed to civil partnerships.

    The support for LGBT rights from Labour does not come as a byproduct of our membership of the European Union as has been suggested by some.

    I think people who wish support for LGBT rights would be wise to vote Labour or Lib Dem in the forthcoming general election.

    If you live in a marginal constituency then vote whichever is most likely to prevent Conservative victory.

  2. Civil patnership was appropriate for its time.

    Does the Labour Party support marriage equality?

    If not then there is no reason why any LGBT person should vote for Labour.

    After all why should you vote for a party that thinks you are a second class citizen?

  3. Let’s all remember 1 very important fact.

    The Labour Party believes that same sex couples should be denied access to the legal contract of civil marriage, purely because we are gay.

    That is appalling.

    Fair enough Labour are nowhere near as disgustingly homphobic as the Tories are.

    But their opinions on LGBT rights are lacking. Severely!

  4. A bit late now but aren’t we all bored with Brown and Darling, a new face on labour might have made a difference. Lib dems have my vote, they have helped me a lot in the past and are the true initiators of change – lab will tag along but won’t initiate any major change. As for promoting gay rights abroad, I remember asking them for help to get the CP recognised in France and got the reply that they couldn’t interfer with foreign coutries policy , when I pointed out that article 25 of the double taxation treaty forbids discrimination in tax terms then they weren’t prepared to challenge then French tax authourites , when asked where in Europe/abroad we were recognised they replied in the commons that this was an impossible task to find out (see reply to Sarah Teather mp) – luckily someone has done the work for them http://www.uklgig.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2213 – they’re a lazy and 2 faced party but if we have to have someone then they’re better than the tories but I wish the lib dems could get in

  5. vulpus_rex 24 Apr 2010, 9:05am

    He may well defend the Labour party’s record on gay rights, its just a pity that their record on everything else is sh*te.

    He is a terrible prime minister, breath-takingly dishonest and is leading his party to an unprecedented electoral shaming.

    Still, only 12 days now till he gets booted out in disgrace.

  6. Cath Ex pat 24 Apr 2010, 9:38am

    Same experience as you Dave , we were told to contact the French ourselves. Question asked in EU by Bowles (lib dem), Hannan and Chichester (Cons), nothing from the labour MEPS. As for mainland UK MPS only lib dems helped, makes me doubt the sincerity of Brown’s committment to international gay rights issues , perhaps he needs to be told by the USA first , doesn’t he and his foreign office gang jump when they want something done….

  7. A shame that Pink News can’t hold back from excusing Tory bigotry, even in an article about Gordon Brown. Let’s make this clear, that vile Tory toad Grayling didn’t apologise for suggesting B&B owners should be able to turn away gay couples; he apologised “for causing confusion”. See for example http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-hope-for-closure-as-chris-grayling-apologises-for-antigay-comments-1949588.html “I certainly regret causing confusion” – and it took him how many days, even to say that ?

    This is the same sloppy journalism or just plain misrepresentation of Tory statemnets as when Pink News kept saying chinless Cameron would “erase” convictions for gay sex acts which are now legal, when in fact he only said he’d treat them as “spent”, i.e. barred on the grounds of time elapsed, or when they made a big deal about the Tories saying they’d give gay couples in civil partnerships the same £3 tax break as marrieds, when Labour had already legislated for CP couples to have the same treatment on tax matters.

    Let’s not forget, when there have been changes to the law helping LGBT people, Labour’s been pushing for change, appalling numbers of Tory MPs and Lords have voted against, time and time again. That’s simply a fact, and even at this election, there are many Tory candidates wanting your vote who have NOT given us their vote when they had the chance.

  8. The CP is a pretty recent change , what was the delay, they’d been in power for years before that? Prior to the end of 2005 most couples had no tax benefits, we had to pay for life insurance to cover the 40% iht. In France we were forced to pay 60% iht and the lab government did very little to argue with the French government over that discrimaintin. We didn’t go the whole hog anyway, we still have a cp and not a marriage. The CP act was in any case written by Lord Lester a lib dem house of lords member. I agree with you about the tories, nothing will happen on the gay rights front, we’ll probably stay exactly where we are now, absolutely no more changes and consessions to gays… most importantly they will always vote against any gay rights improvements from Europe and without that the UK and the rest of Europe will not change….

  9. “Going forward there is still a lot to do, including promoting gay rights abroad” – extract for 2008 house of lords – Lord Lester of Herne Hill asked Her Majesty’s Government: Why they are intervening before the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Horst Schalk and Johann Kopf v Austria (Application No. 30141/04) to contend that same-sex relationships fall outside the ambit of family life for the purposes of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

    The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Ministry of Justice (Lord Hunt of Kings Heath): My Lords, the Government have intervened in the case of Schalk and Kopf v Austria primarily to support the proposition that Article 12 of the European Convention on Human Rights does not require same-sex couples to be allowed to marry……

  10. Neither Labour nor Tory parties support civil marriage equality for gays. Cameron said he’d “consider” it if elected, but “consider” is code for NO. Just like Blair, he wouldn’t want a confronation with the state cult, a lame excuse if ever I heard one. Since when do religious cults perform civil marriages? Neither get my vote, but as a protest, I’ll vote for the Liberal Dems who do believe in marriage equality. I have no objection to people forming civil partnerships but they shouldn’t oppose those whose preference is to marry. Fair is fair.

  11. No matter what happens, Labour remains the only party to improve on what it has achieved which no other party, including LibDem can challenge (as you can see they have never). So its rather ungrateful of those denying Labour’s achievement on this front. If you have any fairness in you, then you will know that it was a huge step in the right direction and that more surely would be done.

    Who would you believe? the man who oppose you entirely or the man who took a step towards a balance? You may not like the Labour govt but you can be honest accepting the good it has done and not economical with the truth.

    As for recognising UK’s CP in other countries, you must remember that those countries are sovereign nations and cannot be forced to recognise other countries’ laws. So dont be daft with such a foolish argument. Regardless, the Labour government has completed that discussion with France this February (http://blogs.fco.gov.uk/roller/bryant/entry/lgbt_rights_not_just_a) and you must accept that it takes an unrelenting & diligent diplomatic engagement with affected countries to get such issues rectified. Presently, France and Spain recognise UK’s CP, and I believe, discussions are continuing behind the scenes to get other EU and int’l countries to recognise this; with respect to their sovereignity.

    Britain recognise same-sex marriages/CPs (or whatever other names they are go by) from all countries across the world that has such; and that is a good example and goes a long way too to show how much LGBT rights has been upheld by the UK Labour government. Will your ‘modern’ Tory recognise you here let alone accepting migrant LGBT people? And your LibDem? We should be careful about equating ‘Promises’ with Actions; only fools does that.

    The Labour party has its eyes on same-sex civil marriage and within good time, will achieve that. You have to agree that it is not a dictatorial government that can just push in any law as it wishes. You must remember that your conservative Tories are there in the Commons and Lords solely to prevent any such change. So, there is just so much Labour can do to make these things happen without hurdles; yet Labour face those hurdles with zeal and sacrifice. I think the Labour government deserves praise.

    For any sensible person, you have to agree that changes such as same-sex relationships are best acheived step-by-step. And as CP gets accepted and soaked in by the populace, a civil marriage will then follow. The Labour govt isnt foolish, so taking it in steps will reach the expected goal in time. The LibDems wont promise you marriage if the appropriate steps has not been taken in reaching this stage. Labour couldnt have woken up and implement same-sex marriage without the ground work. There is a lot to these things than just announcing it.

    But in the long run, a civil marriage is the target and I for one would be shouting and working hard that Labour completes the work it started. But we can do and achieve this wish by challenging Labour more and more.

  12. Labour might be ok if Jack Straw loses his seat

  13. Godwyns, you are so very wrong when you say that the UK recognises same-sex marriage from other countries. It most certainly does NOT. My partner and I had to travel to Canada last year to get married in Toronto, we did not want a civil partnership since they are not the same. Guess what? The UK does not recognise our Canadian certificate of marriage but will only recognise it as civil partnership which it is NOT. There will never be universal recognition in the EU of the varying forms of same-sex unions because most countries in the union don’t have any. If they all had the same unions, then it would make sense, but they don’t. The French PACs don’t carry even half of the rights of British CPs so how could any of them ever be equal. There’s only one that is equal and that’s marriage, only available in Holland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Norway and Sweden. Civil Partnerships are NOT recognised as marriages in any country and never will be.

  14. Labour has been a blessing for the gay community. I remember their support for our community, before they got into power in 97. During these 13 years in power, Labour delivered exactly what they promised to us before being elected, and a little bit more, despite the opposition from the conservatives.

  15. Vote Labour or Lib Dems. These two parties are the only realistic options for any self-respecting gay person.

  16. I can’t wait for May 7th… Am Soooooo bored of this bl**dy election. Labour, like any party that has been in too long are out of touch with the public. It’s their turn to have a period of time out of government to regroup and focus on what there prioties are.

  17. I don’t believe that anyone can seriously believe that gay rights haven’t improved faster than they would have if we’d had a Conservative government since 1997.

    We have probably achieved 80% of what we spent decades campaigning for and now have few issues that can generate the same passions in our communities. This means that in this election who has the ‘best’ policies for us doesn’t matter to most people compared to wider policies.

    I’m personally glad we have had as much progress as we have had, but I don’t see any significant threat of a return to Thatcher’s homophobic policies in Cameron and that would be the only thing that would put gay rights back on the top of my voting agenda.

    For the record I’m probably voting lib dem because of the other parties record on the wars but being in Manchester Central it won’t make any difference to who wins the election here.

  18. I’ve said it before, abnd I’ll say it again: Labour utterly attacked the Tory’s for section 28 whilst they were in power.
    When Tony “Things are gonna get better” Blair took over in a landslide, why did it take Labour SIX YEARS to nullify the law in this matter?

    Labour really don’t give a toss about anyone but themselves, and are actually even more right wing than the Tories.

  19. Does the Labour Party support marriage equality?

    If not then there is no reason why any LGBT person should vote for Labour.

    That kind of presupposes that most members of the LGBT community support actually want gay marriage. I don’t actually see a single shred of evidence to suggest that they do. In fact, I struggle to find anyone I know who is even remotely interested in gay marriage, so it appears to me to be one of those things that certain elements are trying to force on us just because Peter Tatchell wants it.

    I am neither a Lib Dem nor a Labour supporter; but I will be voting Liberal Democrat on 6th May (although, if I am reduced to tactical voting, I would rather be voting Labour). I don’t like the Lib Dems and I don’t trust them, but they are the only credible anti-Tory vote available to me where I live.

    The LGBT community have done well under Labour and I think it is a shame that people are so ready to forget that.

    As for Rob-N’s banal position about the repeal of Section 28, at least it was bloody done. It would never have happened under his beloved Conservatives .. and nor would any of the advances we have seen on LGBT issues..

  20. Rob-N, you ask why it took Labour 6 years to repeal Section 28. I’ll remind you. You were around at the time.

    The first attempt the Labour government made to repeal it was in 2000. William Hague, then Tory leader, had already sacked Shaun Woodward from the shadow Cabinet when SW opposed Hague’s policy that Section 28 should be kept. In 2000, the Tories’ former leader in the House of Lords, Baroness Young, organised the (then) Tory majority of peers, to vote against repeal, and keep Section 28. So the Tories blocked repeal in England & Wales during 2000.

    But in 2000, Labour succeeded in repealing it in Scotland, which by then had a devolved parliament, despite the Tories and their backers there spending heavily to keep the rotten law. In England & Wales, the Labour gov’t kept on pushing to get S28 repealed and succeeded in 2003, but the Tories fought it all the way, with their deputy leader Baroness Blatch running another attempt to derail the process (Young had died in 2002, Blatch died in 2005, both from cancer. Maybe that’s karma).

    So you wonder why repeal took time ? Because the Tories tried to block it, every step of the way. Tory boys on here have said we should forget S28, that it was 20+ years ago. The truth is, it remained relevant to our lives until just 7 years ago, because of the Tories.

    Meanwhile, David Cameron, for all his suposed friendliness, keeps all those Tory bigots in power around him. William Hague is still there, so’s Iain Duncan Smith; Grayling and Lewis remain on the team. Hague fought to keep S28, Tory peers voted to keep S28, Tories in Scotland wanted to keep S28. They want your vote – but they never once gave you theirs.

  21. godwyns – we have double taxation treaties with most european countries and if you read then there is an article for non discrimination in terms of tax for people in the same position ie gay couple in one coutry in a same sex partnerships is the same as in another country. Even the EU commissioner has admitted this for tax pruposes,the UK should challlenge this …..

  22. I keep asking others to answer this question because I know the answer….what part of ANY gay rights legislation did Gordon Brown vote yes to in a House of Commons vote.

    The answer is NONE!Gordon Brown does not support Civil Partnerships – he did not vote for them and he peevishly delayed the implementation of the Novemeber 2004 Act by at least 6 months after the following Spring’s Finance Act to express his disapproval of them …He has never had the guts either to vote No or Abstain – he has always been “Absent from the House”.A weasel way out typical of the man.

  23. “Gordon Brown does not support Civil Partnerships”

    I think he does, but mainly as a way of avoiding the question of marriage.

  24. Does the Labour Party support marriage equality?

    If not then there is no reason why any LGBT person should vote for Labour.

    “That kind of presupposes that most members of the LGBT community support actually want gay marriage.”

    No, it simply presupposes that people want to be treated as having equal rights. Most straight people don’t want to get married, but that doesn’t mean they would be content to have less rights than gay people.

  25. Gendy really isn’t to hot on facts. As is the case with most PMs, Gordon Brown was absent from many votes and was paired with a member of the opposition. Gendy makes the deluded assumption that not having voted for something equates to a vote against.

    As for LGBT rights votes where Gordon Brown has actively voted for the LGBT supportive line:

    1: Supporting the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations
    2: Rejecting the amendment to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill stating that fertility treatment requires father and mother
    3: Rejecting the amendment Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill stating that fertility treatment requires male role model.

    Votes where Gordon Brown has voted against the LGBT supportive line = NONE EVER.

    Nick Clegg has voted on less LGBT supportive issues than Gordon Brown has and has been absent from a full third of the LGBT supportive votes which have taken place since he has been an MP. Following gendy’s perverse logic we can therefore assume that Nick Clegg was opposed to them and therefore, for example, was opposed to the Equality Act (Sexual Orientation) Regulations.

    I guess that shows the quality of gendy’s ‘facts’.

    I wont mention David Cameron’s voting record .. I wouldn’t want to embarrass Rob-N ;)

  26. No, it simply presupposes that people want to be treated as having equal rights. Most straight people don’t want to get married, but that doesn’t mean they would be content to have less rights than gay people.

    Sorry Dave, but that is the most tortured logic I have seen in many a year. The statement “If not then there is no reason why any LGBT person should vote for Labour” assumes that the LGBT community as a whole wants gay marriage and consider that it is an important factor in considering how to vote .. but there are no hard facts to suggest that most members of the LGBT community in the UK even think that gay marriage is an important totem.

  27. Gendy,

    According to Stonewall’s voting records, Gordon Brown is within a smidgeon of being as supportive of LGBT issues as Nick Clegg is (despite having far more commitments outside of the country and parliament which would prevent him for turning up for many votes) and exactly the same as Vince Cable’s. It is as near as damn it the same as Simon Hughes’ record, which even Peter Tatchell is at pains to tell us is exemplary.

    In fact, there are numerous Liberal Democrat MPs who have far worse records than Gordon Brown does on supporting LGBT issues.

    Your lame attempts to portray Gordon Brown as some sort of a homophobic bigot really don’t wash.

    http://www.stonewall.org.uk/documents/stonewall_mp_voting_records_2010_1.pdf

  28. @Mark
    It doesn’t matter how many or what individual gay persons think about gay marriage. What is important here is the issue of equal rights and fairness. The majority of gay persons think this way. They don’t want to be treated as second class citizens.

  29. Am I the only gay person who has never felt like a second class citizen. Then maybe I’ve got everything I need.

  30. You all can be assured, under a new Tory government, we will see an increase of homophobic rhetoric to justify all kinds of prejudice and discrimination against us. Our rights can be eroded little by little. Their core homophobic supporters will implement their norms, and their homophobic thinking has already found its way into their political discourse, with the patent tolerance from the very top of their party. There’s a very fine line between patent tolerance, tacit approval and the promotion of bigotry. You should take nothing for granted. We can still see our latest 13 years of progress roll back little by little. And it can take another one or two generations for us to correct any damage done by them. History shows it’s more than likely it can happen exactly like this, since there’s a very nasty homophobic majority in our society just waiting to surface again, as was the case in any of the decades before, when sexual freedoms were rolled back. It happened before, and it can still happen now.

  31. Bobbet

    It doesn’t matter how many or what individual gay persons think about gay marriage. What is important here is the issue of equal rights and fairness. The majority of gay persons think this way. They don’t want to be treated as second class citizens.

    I really think you should stop imposing your own thoughts on the community as a whole. The simply fact remains that most of the community here in the UK doesn’t even view gay marriage as an equality issue.

  32. Very scary stuff indeed Bobbet but if we have a very nasty homophobic majority in our society already then doesn’t that suggest that Labour have failed. Just waiting to surface too, where they been? This surely is the stuff of novels coz I don’t see it.

    Lib Dems rule! (well no yet – they rock though)

  33. Dave, No. 23. Brown and Cameron do support civil partnerships and yes, they do because it gets them off the hook supporting full civil marriage equality which neither do anyway. If Cameron did, he would not have said he’d “consider” it if elected. If he truly believe in FULL equality, he would have unequivocally supported it. There are many LGBT people in our country who want that option and freedom of choice.

    Mark No. 19….just because you don’t know any gay people who don’t want the right to marry, doesn’t mean they don’t exist. They most certainly do and there are many of them. Not every gay man or woman in the UK posts comments on Pink News either. By your failure to find or seek out people who do want to get married, do you then think they should not be allowed? If NO, then you don’t believe in full equality. Why do you think the number of countries allowing us to marry instead of forming different non-marital unions is slowly growing (8 already) and surpassing the UK, France, Germany, and a few others in the EU? We’re outnumbered and that’s going to continue.

  34. Bob71350

    ….just because you don’t know any gay people who don’t want the right to marry, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

    Where have I said that they don’t exist? Even suggesting that I have said that really shows how desperate you are.

    If there was really such strong support for it, don’t you think that gay marriage would be on Stonewall’s list of election demands? Maybe you should ask yourself why it isn’t; because the answer is quite simple: there is no evidence that there is widespread support for it.

  35. It took many years before we got the CP, many years after lab was in power, we still have a CP and not a marriage and in the eyes of most people it’s not the same in the UK or in the rest of the world. It not the same as marriage in France and it’s not the same in the UK, this is discrimination and with a majority of power for so long in the UK why did Lab settle with this. In Europe, recent past, when CP had problems in Europe, as a previous comment said the govt reaction was that France was a soverign state, cons, lib dems and green all took immmediate action with the commissioner in the EU – see question asked in the last year, sorry can’t fin any from lab. Suddenly there is europe wide recognition on the agenda, what’s changed, ah yes,the election. When the states asked the UK to go to was against 2 soverign arab countries, there were no problems. When intervence against a court case in Austria as per comment 9

  36. @Mark, it’s crystal clear to me that there should be no differences whatsoever in the treatment afforded to heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals and all the sexual orientations alike. I’m not “imposing” my thoughts on anyone, let alone the community as a whole. It appears something on my discourse is bothering you. Perhaps it’s the equality issue. Maybe you don’t see us as equal.

  37. @Sam Price, Labour has never promised to us to completely eradicate homophobia. That would be the same as to promise to completely eradicate racism. It’s impossible. It will never happen. This is the stuff of historical facts, not fiction.

  38. Maybe you don’t see us as equal.

    Don’t be ridiculous. Of course I see us as equal; but as someone who believes that marriage should be disestablished and the Civil Partnership should be accessible to all and the only form of union recognised by the state, I don’t see ‘gay marraige’ as a totem.

  39. @Mark, do you really think marriage can be disestablished? You’re a dreamer. Call it marriage, call it civil partnership, call it something else. It’s all the same. It’s a societal and governmental recognition of relationships. The state should not make distinctions between the relationships of heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals alike. If it’s called marriage or something else, doesn’t make one iota of difference. It should be available equally to all sexual orientations.

  40. You’re a dreamer.

    It is only through dreams that equity is achieved (and I really am far more interested in equity than I am equality).

    I still say that ‘gay marriage’ is a false totem and that I see no evidence that there is widespread support for it.

  41. many seek gay marriage and stonewall are out of touch with what people want!

  42. To those who delude themselves and link voting Liberal Democrat and achieving ‘gay marriage': Nowhere have the Liberal Democrats actually given any binding commitment to give us gay marriage. Nor is there any realistic chance that they ever would within the foreseeable future (even if by some miracle they were in a position to form a government).

    All we have is a statement from Nick Clegg claiming that he personally supports it (but not so much that he is willing to taint the manifesto with that support).

  43. I think that one class of legal marriage or civil partnership should be available to any couple, regardless of gender. I have no problem with cranky religious groups decidng that they won’t conduct ceremonies for particular people, but then I don’t think any marriage conducted by a religious group should have any legal status – ie, if you get married in a church/mosque/temple/synagogue/pagan ceremony, that should be for your private satisfaction but you should be required to have at least a 5-minute “say the words, sign the book” with a Registrar if you want your ‘union’ to be legal.

    It’s not that I necessarily want it for myself, but I believe that we should be working towards equality. I never wanted to join the army, but I think it’s a great advance in recent years that gay people can join and not risk a dishonourable discharge, and be treated the same as anyone else, just like I think the age of consent should be identical.

    Civil partnerships were a great advance on nothing at all, and equality is often achieved in stages, but I think we should be looking for more steps towards equality – and the proof of the pudding over many years is that labour and LibDems vote for that, Tories vote against.

  44. It must be fully clarified that what Gordon Brown says about doing this and taht for Gay Rights is a utter and complete “MYTH”–Brown as done nothing that we LGBT campaigners have for years campaigned for—HIS Party did not give us the end of Clause 28–infact that was passed by 1 vote alone–that of the speaker who excercised his right to vote—in fact many Labour MPs voted with the Tories against repeal of clause 28–

    The New Labour Party as used the Pink Pound and Pink Vote (about 6%) for their own means to stay in power for so long-

    again, if it was not for a few couragious LGB MPs having the bottle to come out, we would still be further behind then now in our rights-

    PS i am not a Tory or LibDem voter either, so no sour grapes to Brown only

    So anyone who feels New Labour as done anything for LGBT rights dare i say it, pray tell me what–

  45. Dennis H either you are living in a fantasy world of your own imagining, or you are an accomplished liar and Tory troll. You claim that Labour didn’t effect the repeal of Clause 28. I suggest first of all that you read my post no.20 on this thread, which gives the facts – that the Tories repeatedly tried to stop repeal and that Labour forced it through.

    You claim that repeal was passed only by the casting vote of the Speaker with ‘many’ Labour MPs voting against; a blunt lie, on your part. The Tory leader at that time, Michael Howard, voted against repeal, with his Tory colleagues. Before him, Tory leader William Hague had enforced a three-line whip to defend the clause, after him David Cameron called repeal “deeply unpopular… a fringe agenda”.

    If you want the actual numbers, look at http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2003-03-10&number=109 – on 10th March 2003, 301 Labour MPs voted for repeal, 3 against (a shameful 3 too many, but not ‘many’ as your lie stated. But even at that last gasp, when it was clear repeal would happen, 72 Tory MPs voted against repeal (and prior to that, it was more like 120+ Tories at each vote).

    It’s shameful that you come on here and post a blunt lie, and you then go on to pretend that Labour has done nothing for gay rights during their time in government. Presumably then you’ve missed the following:
    Labour ratified the European Convention on Human Rights, which gives us the protection of the European Court of Human Rights (which the Tories now want to end).
    Labour brought in an equal age of consent, against Tory objections.
    Labour recognised same-sex partnerships for immigration purposes.
    Labour appointed the first openly gay Peer, had the first openly gay cabinet mininster.
    Labour ended the witch-hunts of gays in the armed forces and LGBT people can now serve without fear.
    Labour made it possible for gays to foster and adopt and for lesbians to access IVF treatment, and for gays to be recognised as joint parents.
    Labour gave gay partners the right to succeed to a housing tenancy if their partner died, and gave gay surviving partners the right to claim damages after a fatal accident.
    Under Labour, the police have started acting against homophobic crimes instead of victimising gay people, Labour brought in tougher sentences for crimes aggravated by homophobic prejudice, and Labour repeal the Sexual Offences act which was used to trap gay men.
    Labour made it illegal to discriminate against gays and lesbians in the workplace.
    Labour introduced Civil partnerships – not perfect in my eyes, but a damn sight more than the nothing we had before and a step towards marriage equality.
    Labour’s passed the first Equality Act giving the first ever protection against discrimination in buying goods & services
    Labour has created a requirement for government departments to treat us equally which was never there before, and has changed the tenor of government policy from the specifically anti-gay bigotry of the Tory years.

    Maybe you missed all that. Maybe you want to claim that none of it matters to you. But please don’t come on here with blunt lies.

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