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Council demands Cameron expel ‘homophobic’ councillor

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  1. They don’t HAVE to fire him of course but the fact that they haven’t just shows how unimportant the Tories regard homophobia.

    Other Tory bigots who should be expelled include:

    Chris Grayling – the sinister Shadow Home Secretary who believes that business owners be allowed break the law to deny goods and services to gay people.

    Iain Duncan Smith – the proposed minister in charge of families who through his work with the far-right think tank The Centre for Social Justice is already campaigning to reduce the parental rights of non-biological gay parents.

    Philippa Stroud – evangelical christian, Tory Parliamentary candidate and vile homophobe

    Andrew Brigden – Tory parliamentary candidate who believes that businesses be allowed to discriminate against gay people.

  2. vulpus_rex 21 Apr 2010, 1:17pm

    Isn’t this guy a defector from the Liebour party – the true home of grass roots homophobia?

    Anyway if this is the best that Liebour have got in the middle of a general election campaign then they really are doomed.

    Only 15 days left now before the Bully is kicked out of downing street!

  3. If David Cameron really cares about LGBT people and fighting homophobia he would sack Denis Knowles, Chris Grayling and anyone else in his party who is homophobic. Calling people “limp-wristed boys” is homophobic, not – as his Tory colleague dismisses it as: “a silly comment on facebook”. Knowing his career is at risk Denis Knowles has apologised – not for the homophobia, but for the political embarrassment to his party and for his “throwaway” comment made in “jest”.

    This is not good enough. Denis believes that making homophobic jokes about gay men is trivial. Our lives and safety are not trivial and research and our experience shows that we still face high levels of low-level homophobia and homophobic violence. Such comments add fuel to the flames of hatred because people see them as insignificant.

    As LGBT people we should be standing up for ourselves and fighting against such casually expressed bigotry, rather than colluding with internalised homophobia that encourages us to dismiss his offensive views.

  4. Where I live my Tory Council is under an Investigation by the Audit Commission for falsifying how well they are doing with gay issues to win equality awards.

    In reality they are doing nothing and have been ‘making it up’ to win the awards.

  5. Sister Mary clarence 21 Apr 2010, 2:30pm

    You’d think so wouldn’t Simon. Much in the same way that Miranda Grell after having been convicted of making false allegations of paedophilia against some poor gay Lib Deb guy, who was forced to flee his home afgter the subsequent death threats, would have been tossed out immediately.

    Astonishing therefore that instead of sacking her, the Labour Party funded her failed appeal.

    You would think then though that they would have sacked her.

    Even more astonishing that after she lost her appeal against conviction, she still wasn’t sacked but was instead allowed to resign and slip away.

    Astonishing!!!

    I seem to remember Harriet Harperson having very little to say on the subject at the time

  6. Funny that, Cleggy, where I live the tories are under investigation for encouraging second home owners to register as voters in both constituencies, essentially electoral fraud!

  7. If Tories think that “limpwristed” isn’t homophobic, then why did Knowles resort to using it? what was the point? Why couldn’t he have used “gay”? Maybe it was a bad choice of words, but not homophobic? Of course it is. Its used, among other words, to dehumanise us, denigrate us. Clearly, this man has NO respect for us and if Cameron doesn’t rebuke him, then we’ll know where the party stands. There’s much blame to go around in both Labour and Tory parties, I for one don’t support either since neither supports my full equality.

  8. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 2:59pm

    Vulpus Rex writes:

    Isn’t this guy a defector from the Liebour party – the true home of grass roots homophobia?

    I just think this is so silly and funny. Spelling Labour as “Liebour” is a classic indication of some bitter demented fool and produces only mirth in the reader.

    Anyway if this is the best that Liebour have got in the middle of a general election campaign then they really are doomed.

    The headline of the article is: “Council demands Cameron expel ‘homophobic’ councillor”.

    The first five words of the article are: “Labour and Liberal Democrat councillors”.

    Does this not give you a clue that this is not actually part of the Labour party election campaign? It is simply the actions of Labour and Liberal democrat councillors in Wirral?

    Only 15 days left now before the Bully is kicked out of downing street!

    Ah, I see, we are to get upset perhaps because Vulpus Rex calls Gordon Brown a “Bully”, with a capital B! :)

    What is Vulpus Rex going to do next? Spell Labour as “Liebour” again. It’s all just too much in one posting! :)

    It is funny to see Vulpus Rex counting the chickens before they are hatched.

    It’s really not very bright.

  9. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 3:03pm

    James writes:

    If David Cameron really cares about LGBT people and fighting homophobia he would sack Denis Knowles, Chris Grayling and anyone else in his party who is homophobic.

    This is true of course, but if David Cameron sacked “anyone else in his party who is homophobic” there would only be about 7 people left. :)

  10. Vulpus Rex:-

    I have to say I’m glad your so confident, even as I will be voting Tory I have my doubts if they will actually get in.

  11. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 3:12pm

    Sister Mary clarence Miranda Grell writes:

    Even more astonishing that after she lost her appeal against conviction, she still wasn’t sacked but was instead allowed to resign and slip away.

    In politics when people are “sacked” what actually happens is that they resign as Miranda Grell had done.

    If Chris Grayling was “sacked” what would actually happen would be that he would resign.

    So Miranda Grell was indeed sacked.

    Sister Mary clarence continues:

    Astonishing!!!

    What is astonishing is Sister Mary clarence’s ignorance about such basics as this.

    The amazing self delusion exhibited by Sister Mary clarence and Vulpus Rex can only be possible through ignorance.

  12. Homer Simpson lookalike Penis Knowles is almost as hilarious as the real Homer Simpson.
    Can’t you just see Penis with a couple days beard growth lounging in his y-fronts in front of the telly when he gets more time to spend at home with his family.

  13. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 3:36pm

    Squidgy comments to Vulpus Rex:

    I have to say I’m glad your so confident, even as I will be voting Tory I have my doubts if they will actually get in.

    Vulpus Rex’s “confidence” comes from denial.

    The Conservative party electoral campaign has been a disaster area.

    It is worth contemplating the vast amount of money the Conservative party has spent on that campaign as well as all the promises made to Rubert Murdoch – that they will chop up the BBC for him to stop it getting in his way. All that support in the Murdoch papers hasn’t been for nothing.

    The Conservatives built their house on sand. They won’t really spell out the consequences of their policies because of course they know that doing so would never get them elected. So, the vast majority of people don’t really know what the Conservative party is about.

    How could they? A large proportion of the shadow cabinet is in hiding just in case they are asked any difficult questions.

    So, as an alternative to talking in real terms about what they are about David Cameron instead talks in great generalities such as “Big Society” and tells us all to vote for “Change”.

    It was very likely this strategy of going to an election while hiding all your policies was going to come a cropper eventually and at the first Prime Ministerial TV debate it really was falling apart.

    We saw Gordon Brown and Nick Clegg both talking about policies, politics, things that are real and important to people’s lives.

    We saw David Cameron telling us these obviously invented anecdotes and telling us, for example, that we need to keep Trident because of a possible threat from China!

    The China comment was ignorance on Sarah Palin proportions.

    Now the Conservative party has become really really desperate.

    They had to abandon their party parliamentary broadcast and instead we saw David Cameron doing a piece to camera in one of his gardens. He looked desperate.

  14. Patrick James:-

    Actually David Cameron is the only one who actually answers questions. His campaign is the best in my view. It’s the likes of Mandleson that only believe the way to win is through being nasty and vicious. I think it would be a mistake to vote Lib Dem. I actually believe that voting Tory is the safest option and I’m doing it to protect gay rights because I believe with Labour in again we will see the rise of the far right. Then we really will have to fight to keep our rights.

    Gordon Brown is a disaster waiting to re-happen and Nick Clegg, who is modelling himself on David Cameron is just all spin and no long term policies. They have no chance of being in power this time round and a vote for them is a wasted one.

    With the other two this country will be digging and digging into a almighty big great whole. With the Tories at least there does seem to be a light and a way out of the mess Labour have got us into.

  15. “A silly comment on Facebook is not homophobia.”
    What if you use silly comments about slavery and hunting “niggers”?

    The defenses of some people are just stupid and inbred-like

  16. SQUIDGY – they do have a chance, cameron’s party is homophobic so you wouldn’t benefit gay rights by voting for the

  17. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 4:27pm

    Great video: You’re Nicked!

  18. To get back to the issue of this suspended Councillor – what a pity that he’s about to be sacked – and with a face like that to contend with. Poor, sad willie-woofter hater! Enjoy your lonely retirement.

  19. Patrick James 21 Apr 2010, 4:56pm

    Squidgy writes:

    Actually David Cameron is the only one who actually answers questions.

    With bizarre invented anecdotes?

    He really doesn’t answer questions.

    Squidgy writes:

    I actually believe that voting Tory is the safest option and I’m doing it to protect gay rights because I believe with Labour in again we will see the rise of the far right. Then we really will have to fight to keep our rights.

    The far right is in the Conservative party.

    Chris Grayling
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    Philippa Stroud
    Daniel Hannan

    and many more.

    Voting Conservative puts the far right in the most powerful positions in Government.

    Squidgy writes:

    Gordon Brown is a disaster waiting to re-happen

    Gordon Brown has been superb through this global financial crisis.

    Cameron got it wrong on every call.

    Squidgy writes:

    Nick Clegg, who is modelling himself on David Cameron is just all spin and no long term policies.

    You have this totally inverted.

    A fun exposition can be seen in this video: You’re Nicked!

    Squidgy writes:

    They have no chance of being in power this time round and a vote for them is a wasted one.

    The Lib Dems have a very great chance of being in power.

    In fact of the three parties they have the most chance at the moment if we project the opinion poll statistics into Parliamentary seats.

    If we have a hung parliament we will most likely have either a Labour/Lib-Dem coalition or a Conservative/Lib-Dem coalition.

    At present Labour/Lib-Dem coalition is the most likely electoral outcome.

    Remember that the party set to win most seats at Westminster at present is Labour, then second is Conservatives and third is Lib-Dem.

    But Labour or the Conservatives could only take power with a coalition with the Lib Dems.

    In Westminster seats Labour is ahead of the Conservatives so, the least likely party to gain power at the moment is the Conservative party.

    This is why David Cameron is now making desperate parliamentary political broadcasts with his puffy face and starey glazed eyes.

    Squidgy writes:

    With the other two this country will be digging and digging into a almighty big great whole. With the Tories at least there does seem to be a light and a way out of the mess Labour have got us into.

    This is really false.

    I remember the Conservative handling of previous recessions and they represented a disaster for the UK with spiralling unemployment and desperate financial crises.

    The truth is that Labour have taken the country through a terrible global crisis superbly well and the Conservatives got it wrong through this crisis on every call.

  20. Patrick James “The truth is that Labour have taken the country through a terrible global crisis superbly well and the Conservatives got it wrong through this crisis on every call.”

    The fact that there was a global crisis is one thing, but why is it most others have managed to recover whilst we are still in a massive money hole due to inept mismanagement of the countries money? Brown screwed up ever since he became chancellor. Pray who sold off all our gold stocks when the value was at it’s lowest for 50 years? I wouldn’t let that man manage a fvcking piggy bank.

  21. Pete & Michael 21 Apr 2010, 5:32pm

    At least Gordon Brown did’nt just stand by, he has steered this country through one of the world’s economic financial disasters, no one is perfect, great with hindsight, but what would the conservatives have done instead of patting themselves on the back whilst rewarding the rich with more tax breaks.

  22. For goodness sake,what next,string him up in public?!Ok,his comment was unneccesary and somewhat foolish but is it really all that damaging?!Aren’t we in danger of being seen as hypersensitive.Admittedly we have faced years of abusive comments,and worse,but can we get ourselves a semblance of proportion here,please!Strongly censure the man by all means,but let him prove himself as genuinely contrite first before casting him out into the political wilderness!

  23. Sister Mary clarence 21 Apr 2010, 7:34pm

    Patrick – Miranda Grell worked for Nicky Gavron at the GLA at the time or her various wrong-doings.

    She ‘resigned’ from the post.

    The was a Labour Party elected member of Waltham Forest Council at the time of her conviction. She was never suspended from the party. There was never a association disciplinary hearing to determine whether she should have he membership removed (often referred to as a sacking).

    You may prefer to argue over terminology whilst skirting round the issue but nonetheless, what she did to her gay opponent was beneath contempt and flies in the face of everything the Labour Party wants us to think it stands for, and yet they supported her to the bitter end

  24. “Pray who sold off all our gold stocks when the value was at it’s lowest for 50 years?”

    Lets blame…. oh, lets say… the Muslims. Yeah. Dirty bastards the lot of them. Those bloody feckers, coming into my country and stealing the money, and our jobs, and our (wo)men, and our houses. Tell you what, lets vote BNP or UKIP, they’ll fix those bloody immigrants, eh, Rob?

  25. Patrick James wrote:

    “The far right is in the Conservative party.

    Chris Grayling
    Iain Duncan Smith
    Michael Howard
    Philippa Stroud
    Daniel Hannan

    and many more.”

    Spot-on, Patrick! And may I add, as one of the “many more” to whom you refer, Mr. Norman Tebbit. His intervention the other day proved to me that if the Tories were to succeed in getting back into power, the old guard would sweep light-footed Cameron to one side very quickly and the bigoted heavy-weights would take over “and get this country back to how it used to be”! (Remember how Thatcher yearned after every Victorian?)

  26. vulpus_rex 21 Apr 2010, 9:05pm

    Patrick missing the point again.

    I think the Tories will win this election comfortably, but this election is no longer about what is a foregone conclusion.

    This election is about passing judgement on the most corrupt, inept, dishonest prime minister in history.

    Gordon Brown is toast and he is going to be damned at the polls in 15 dyas time.

    That is the story – the Lib dems are going to kill kim and liebour off for ever – I’m so happy!

  27. “That is the story – the Lib dems are going to kill kim and liebour off for ever – I’m so happy!”

    Wow. Issues.

  28. Jean-Paul Bentham 21 Apr 2010, 11:33pm

    …hey!….he is a Homer Simpson look alike!

    Vote Lib Dem.

  29. Last week Pink”News” chose not to tell you about a police investigation into goings on at the Glasgow LGBT Centre. There is more in the news today – http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/politics/police-quiz-ally-of-purcell-over-contract-award-1.1022279 – will PinkNews report it and if no then what’s in it for them in sitting on a significant LGBT-related story?

  30. What was the purpose of the councillor’s comment ? It sounds like an attempt to discredit a group of opponents who were leafletting by, rather than addressing whatever issue they were leafletting about, implying that they were a) not local and b) gay or effeminate, and so in the case of b) appealing to the homophobia of his readers. This is similar to someone in a position of authority appealing to the racism of his listeners or readers rather than dealing with the actual issues. Cameron should nip it in the bud if he wants to be taken seriously.

  31. The comment by SimonQQ above mine is a similar attempt to discredit by prejudice rather than relevant comment, this time implying Pink News is in some way corrupt, and so trying to shoot the messenger. Nothing to do with the article being discussed.

    The level of debate is infantile here. I’m not party political, but the most childish comments and the most irrelevant, and usually defamatory, personal attacks on public figures seem to come mainly, though not exclusively, from the Conservative supporters/ activists. Not doing themselves any favours if the intention is to attract voters.

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